Hillary is not pushing the Wright smear

[denem]

There is not a shred of evidence for this. Sometimes I can't believe what I am reading here.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

1. You're 100% Correct. It Is Completely Unfair For Some To Push That Bullshit Meme.

[virtualobserver]

3. Hillary supporters on this site do

24/7

[NNN0LHI]

25. But only an idiot would believe everything they read on an anonymous website

Don't know who anyone really supports under those circumstances.

Don

[Arkansas Granny]

28. Because this is a discussion board. People here discuss a lot of things.

[blm]

60. You think that some of those posters at DU aren't following a swarm agenda, then

I have some keys to a bridge to sell you.

[libbygurl]

71. You refer, of course, to the swarm of pro-BO posters?

Like pestilential locusts, they descend upon threads in great numbers, leaving a mess behind.

[blm]

86. nope - the Wright -is-more-evil-than -BushInc posters who support closed government

and support the continuing protection of BushInc and the powerful elite served by closed government Democrats.

[Binka]

152. WOW! A Four Syllable Word! You Over Used Commas BTW.

But you are always over reaching aren't you?

[libbygurl]

158. Grammar police better know the rules. You overuse capital letters in your title.

Missed a compound word and split it into two. Changing the subject, too - great tool, distraction. Methinks it's your remark that's 'overreaching'. I thought my post was rather funny, truthful and effective. Otherwise, you wouldn't have reacted the way you did, and the way you will continue to....

Keep it up! 'Bye.

[Binka]

159. No Honey My Post Is Fine

Of course you thought your post was funny, narcissists often find themselves humorous.

[helderheid]

89. OMG !

:hug:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

90. LOL!

How are ya HH? :)

[helderheid]

91. Overwhelmed. :) How about you, OMC?

[annie1]

117. and yet the mod just did. amazing.

[Mags]

2. it's doesn't matter to these folks, they will say and do anything to win.

[Skinner]

4. While it is true that there is no evidence...

...it's hardly a stretch to think that Senator Clinton's campaign may be behind this.

As far as kooky theories go, this isn't even close to "I can't believe what I am reading here" territory.

[denem]

24. I disagree.

I fwe are speculating in an evidence free zone ... The same RW jocks who are pushing Wright would prefer Hillary as the Dem nominee or failing that, an Obama so bloodied that he's beatable. Occam's Razor points straight to the Republicans.

If Hillary was thinking of using Wright, it would have been a week or two before Pennsylvania, not this far out.

[Skinner]

33. Now who is speculating?

I'm not sure Occam's Razor even applies here, but if we're going to use it, wouldn't it make more sense to cut out the middle-man and go straight to the people who have the most to gain from this story? Which would be Senator Clinton's campaign.

And if you think this smear would be most effective two weeks before Pennsylvania, wouldn't it make sense that whoever leaked it would try to do so at the most effective time? The assumption that the Clinton campaign would leak it two weeks out for maximum effect, while the Republican attack machine would leak it early is completely baseless. Whoever leaked it would want to do so at the most effective time.

[denem]

36. If the intention was to create havoc within the Democratic Party

then the sooner the better. OBL chose his moment in 2004. It wasn't 7 weeks out. (edit) The beneficiary of a race controversy within the Democratic Party is not the Democratic Party.

[usrbs]

66. The most effective time would have been weeks ago

When it might have actually done some good to her campaign. Now is much too late. For that reason alone I don't think it was her.

[vireo]

93. I agree

And the fact that she did not also contradicts the notion that she has been employing a "kitchen sink" strategy.

[BornBlue]

78. I have a crazy theory about this

To me, and this is just an opinion, but the timing of everything seems very coincidental. First we hear Ferraro's comments about Obama being lucky to be who he is. Clinton is now caught in an obviously race based scandal, she needs a quick fix to take the attention off of her. How better to do it than to turn it around and make Obama look like he is the racist one? There had been rumors that she had something on him, but didn't want to use it. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Just seems fishy to me.

[JoFerret]

127. Disappointing

.

[Ronnie]

160. Yes.

Very.

[Tom Rinaldo]

34. Why go there?

It has been a cottage industry on your site to speculate without evidence about all the foul things that Senator Clinton could be doing, or might do later, because "everyone knows" she is capable of it. I've seen threads posted accusing her of probably stealing primary elections before a single vote got cast, because that is the type of thing that supposedly would not be below her. DU frequently becomes "Minority Report" with Hillary tried and convicted of crimes that the pschics know she will commit in the future. If nothing else she is always in the Casablanca crowd of "usual suspects" immediately detained anytime anyone anywhere commits some political crime.

But the bottom line truth is that Reverend Wright was Obama's pastor, it was his church for 20 years, and his church of twenty years sells tapes of Reverend Wright delivering sermons to anyone in the gereral public who wants them. This potential controversy was touched on in the mainstream media over a year ago. If Obama wants the Democratic Party to rest our hopes of regaining the White House on his shoulders he simply has to deal with an issue like this which was going to come out sooner or later.

If there is any conspiracy theory with merrit to explore, it is why the main stream media was content to simply sit on a "controversy" like this one while it seemed like Obama was cruising to the Democratic nomination, until Clinton came back and won Ohio Texas and Rhode Island and appears on her way to victory in PA.

[Skinner]

39. I'm not saying Senator Clinton's campaign is responsible.

I'm merely saying that it isn't exactly kooky conspiracy talk to think they might be involved.

In my former life I was an opposition researcher on a number of Democratic campaigns. When you have a really ugly piece of research on your opponent and you want to get it out into the media, you don't call a campaign press conference and have your candidate make the attack. Instead, you leak it in a way that there are no fingerprints.

True story: I once got up before dawn in order to plant a fat manila envelope on the front porch of a well-known state political reporter. (I won't say the state or the reporter's name. But I will say this: The contents of that envelope showed up in the newspaper shortly after. Everything in that newspaper article was part of the public record, so there was no need for the reporter to explain where it came from. Heck, there was no need for our candidate to even know.)

[redqueen]

82. I figured that most here would have understood this about politics by now. (nt)

[PoliticalAmazon]

102. Considering depths to which HRC has stooped....

Considering the fact that HRC has lied, cheated, flipped on her word, groveled in self-pity, cried, race-baited...what in the world would make anyone believe that she wouldn't be behind this?

See, that's the problem with being an unethical monster...it is impossible for non-gullible people to expect anything but bad from you.

[Hoof Hearted]

148. Reverend Wright got Reverend Wright out into the media. Was he an HRC supporter planning this for

20 years? Did he just wait to lure OB into the flock so he could marry him and baptize the girls and screw his political career forever?


Do you remember Dukakis in the tank? That shit didn't go on nearly as long as this. It' O-vah.

[elixir]

83. Tom Terrific. Laying it out for all to read.

[libbygurl]

157. Excellent, excellent thoughts, Tom! Thank you for your post. nt

[Arkansas Granny]

35. Someone here made a stretch yesterday that maybe Senator Obama's campaign may

be behind this. The theory was that they knew it would come out eventually so this would be the best time for it. They still have time to repair any damage done before the rest of the primaries and the subject would be out there way ahead of the GE. Any explanation is possible if you're stretching.

The RW media has had this info for a while. I don't know why it came to the forefront right now, but it's out there now and needs to be dealt with.

[Skinner]

40. That is certainly possible.

But as you know there is no evidence to support that, either.

Obviously, it would be very risky for them to do so. But if they did, I gotta give them kudos for thinking ahead. It would be kind of genius actually.

[Arkansas Granny]

51. That's right. There is no evidence to link either Senator's campaign with the media onslaught

of the Wright videos.

[Bonobo]

53. self-delete. wrong place

[durrrty libby]

80. Hannity and Co. have been pushing this for more than a year

and he is proud to take credit. Also Brian Ross of ABC did an

investigative report on it

[elixir]

84. Hey, don't you have some administrative work to do? Beat it. Yeah, "genius"ing himself right out

of the primaries. You're pretty smart to "hide" your affiliations until after the big fund raising. But, you have to keep the business running, right?

Thanks for allowing me to post on this cesspool, I've really enjoyed the swim.

[Forkboy]

98. Why do you like to swim in cesspools?

:rofl:

Great flameout dude! :thumbsup:

[Kahuna]

132. Eh hem...

:popcorn:

[libbygurl]

41. Shame on you. You are an administrator on this site, and you do not even....

...keep neutral on such matters? So rumour and innuendo now = fact?

I see now why this site has become the cesspool that it is, driving away many Hillary supporters. You should really change the site name to Obama Underground, and should've done that last month. Shameful, Skinner.

[bicentennial_baby]

43. Are you seriously shaming the Admin?

Jeez, you sound like Hillary....

[libbygurl]

47. What a non-sequitur, nonsensical post. Just continue to be all anti-Hillary all the time, hey?

Get some more sensible arguments. Till then, this 'conversation' is over.

[bicentennial_baby]

50. No, you just sounded like Hillary, that's all..

Remember? "Shame on you Barack Obama!!"

[Kahuna]

135. Yeah! Remember that?..

:popcorn:

[JoFerret]

128. The poster made a good point.

.

[elixir]

143. With pride.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

44. If you hate it so much, why are you here? n/t

[libbygurl]

46. Because I paid for the use of this site. The bias did not become obvious...

...till last month after I'd donated quite a few bucks during the fundraising drive.

Maybe I should ask Skinner to show DU's financial report to members now? Hmmm.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

55. You didn't realize that Hillary Clinton wasn't a popular figure on DU until a few months back?

Have you missed the last five years of bashing her over the IWR vote? Hillary has never been a popular figure on DU. Kucinich is a more popular figure on DU than Hillary. That should tell you a lot about this place.

[annie1]

118. i think it's just been made clear that they don't want hillary supporters here...

for the mod to come in one of the few times i've ever seen a post by him on GD:P to insinuate this "smear" (which is not actually a smear but real video of his real pastor) is hillary's doing, is just about as clear as it gets.

[rodeodance]

136. we always guess cause of the bias-now we know for sure

[annie1]

140. it's kind of sad. and the HRC insination/accusation is pretty low....

it really perpetuating making her the scapegoat for everything. many people who are very excited about barack are experiencing very high emotion levels, and then making her a scapegoat for whatever upsets them is a very scary idea.

[susankh4]

59. Good idea.

I'd be curious about just how many Hill supporters give.

[SammyWinstonJack]

85. Low!

:eyes:

[Tyler Durden]

163. Speak for yourself.

I've been on monthly deduction since 2001.

However, since the massive prejudice here against one DEMOCRAT over another...I've gone down to minimums on fund drives.

[NOLALady]

65. I wouldn't frequent a site if I hated it.

I'd chalk up the donation as a loss and move on to a forum more to my tastes.

I'm just saying.:shrug:

[libbygurl]

68. Thanks for your opinion. There are still a few others here who make it worth my while.

nt

[elixir]

144. I guess you don't have the moral fortitude to stand up for your principles and your candidate.

[annie1]

119. definitely do not give anymore money. i thought it was odd that all....

the vitrol was allowed to continue against senator clinton, calling her monster and racist, etc. But for the mod to come on and start spreading that she is involved with the information about the preacher is not what you should contribute to. I was going to give a while back but i didn't like that Sen. clinton was allowed to be torn to shreads in some really hateful ways, but this makes sense now.

[Binka]

156. Vitrol?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. BTW Skinner owns the joint he is not a MOD.

Is this English?

"But for the mod to come on and start spreading that she is involved with the information about the preacher is not what you should contribute to."

Jesus. Convoluted tripe. Go back to school dear.

[Binka]

153. You Are A Hoot!

Maybe you should stomp your feet and stick your tongue out too! Woot go girl! LMAO.

[Oilwellian]

45. spoken in...

Hillary's best nagging voice.

If you consider this website a cesspool, and you're still here, then what does that say about you?

[libbygurl]

49. Because, smarty, I paid for the privilege to be here. You guys would really want...

...to make this an O echo chamber, driving away all those who don't worship fervently at the altar of BO.

[Oilwellian]

52. I see...

so you pay money to belong in a cesspool. Hey, it's your choice. Whatever floats your boat. (no pun intended)

[NOLALady]

69. Most of are here because we support the

Democratic Party.

Will you support the Democratic nominee if it's not your person of choice?

[Tatiana]

56. Shame on you. He's a person who is free to express an opinion.

Why does this bother you?

[libbygurl]

70. Shame on you, too. And I'm free to express my opinion on that, too.

nt

[Tatiana]

77. You just illustrated my point. WE CAN ALL EXPRESS OUR OPINIONS.

Even the admins. If you don't like it, leave.

[libbygurl]

96. And if the shoe were on the other foot, would you leave? Thanks for the hospitable....

...greeting. You're just happy the admins show their bias that coincides with your choice of candidate by letting this become a pro-O and Hillary-hating cesspool, a nice echo chamber for those who adore at the altar of the great Saint BO. Fairness and non-alignment are expected of the best administrators. Those who tip their hand are NOT good admins. And THAT is my opinion.

BO's stink is actually starting to come out into the air now, thank heavens, and you all don't want to acknowledge it. Oh, no, he's just a perfect candidate whose poll trends are starting to tank.

[elixir]

145. After you, thank you.

[AX10]

108. DU, Kos, Huffpost, TPM, Buzzflash, have turned into hate sites.

That is that they all hate HRC.

[Forkboy]

112. Maybe you should read Fox and Newsmax then...then hate Obama so you'd fit right in.

I'm just here to help. No need to thank me.

[annie1]

126. this one can't be too far behind if the mod is trying to start rumors about HRC

[Kahuna]

137. Are they all dead too?

:popcorn:

[mythyc]

150. my emoticon exactly

the last 20 or so posts are fascinating to follow.

:popcorn:

(btw, loved the swim in it pun....)

[Laurab]

162. Those sites are full of dems, too.....gee

do you think HRC has maybe done a few things to make herself unpopular? The dirty campaign, the lies and deceit, and most special of all - saying McCain would make a better president than Obama? Nah, we're all just haters.

In all honesty, I find it hard to understand how any dem could still support her, and be so blind to the lengths she'll go to to win. I thought we'd all had enough of that with bushco.

[annie1]

116. it's pretty wild. with zero evidence and nothing to suggest it, out of nowhere...

to suggest it was from her campaign. i'm stunned.

[Kahuna]

133. Wow!

:popcorn:

[robbedvoter]

64. Hillary campaign memo: Lay off Wright

http://politicalnighttrain.wordpress.com/2008/03/15/hillary-memo-lay-off-jeremiah-wright/

Not the friendliest take, but the onlu source I have:
Clinton campaign: Yes on Rezko, no on Wright
by James Oliphant

The memo has apparently gone around the Hillary Clinton camp this morning: Lay off the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.

On a conference call Saturday to talk about the state of the race, Clinton campaign officials just wouldn’t go there.

“That’s really for Senator Obama to address,” said chief strategist Mark Penn.

So, when we have proof to the contrary, please don't stretch the other way...
You would do well to remember that the GOP is also getting ready for GE - so there's another layer of opposition that's totally ignored here.

[PoliticalAmazon]

103. Yeah, nudge-nudge, wink-wink

If a memo went around, it would appear to be more self-serving, to make HRC look better.

Do you have a copy of the memo and to whom it was distributed?

If not, her past actions are all the proof I need to believe the worst of her.

[elixir]

81. Wow, Skinner nice to see you stepping of the dias and mixing it up with us folk. Partisan much?

[rodeodance]

134. Much?

[annie1]

115. everyone who has attended or known someone who has attended the church...

knows what is said there, why go here?

[tekisui]

5. Hillary Supporters on this site have admitted to speading it.

Who knows the origins, but I know that Hillary supporters have made Youtubes of it, and spread it around, with pride.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

11. Her Supporters Are Not Her Campaign. A Story With Legs Like This Doesn't Need Her At All.

And I'm quite sure she knows that, and knows that all she has to do is stand back.

[tekisui]

12. All true.

She was smart not to publicly touch it.

[libbygurl]

42. It's not like it wasn't already out there. Geez. nt

[annie1]

122. spreading what? it's true. shouild everyone hush and not talk about it?

[rocktivity]

6. Well, it's not her smear--it's Faux News',

And now that it's officially backfired, that's all the more reason to distance herself from it.

:headbang:
rocknation

[rodeodance]

38. there you go--making stuff up. Makes you look foolish

[Epiphany4z]

7. I agree

I want BO to win big time .....HC has stayed far away the Wright stuff ...its the bored MSM that has gone off the deep end with it.

[casus belli]

8. Whoever did...

may wind up wishing they hadn't.

[NOLALady]

75. That's the way I see it.

What doesn't destroy him, seems to make him stronger.

He wasn't my first or second choice, but dayum I'm impressed.

[casus belli]

147. I've been blown away by him since his keynote address

I've always sensed a touch of destiny about him I can't explain. I looked at my wife after the address and said, "We just saw the first African American president of the United States", and she nodded her head in agreement.

[olkaz]

9. She hasn't needed to even mention it!

Trust me, when this issue leaves the newsstand, she will bring it up constantly.

She's just letting her extended network get their hands dirty on this one.

[peaches2003]

10. Be patient

Give her time. :evilgrin:

[SoCalDem]

13. That's why candidates hire/use flunkies to get down & dirty

They "stay above it all" and use the underlings to get out there and fling the poo,.. Ask Geraldine how it works :)

We are more sophisticated than they give us credit for :)

[lefty from jersey]

14. Diggin' a hole

Why should Hillary utter a peep when Obama is diggin' a hole for himself? She will throw the dirt on him when the hole gets deep enough.

[SoCalDem]

19. I think she left all her shovels in Iowa

and Iowans aren't that keen on her these days.. they will keep the 15K shovels :)

[Adelante]

130. Jeez, what do 15K shovels cost?

No wonder they went broke :wow:

[NOLALady]

76. I have the greatest respect for HRC.

But, I do believe she is out of her league.

[rodeodance]

18. shall i type in names for BO who were fired.?--Stop with the crap

[SoCalDem]

20. no

:P

[Doctor_J]

15. No, but she's patronizing FoxNews, who is pushing it,

and not keeping focussed on McCain and Bush and the real enemies

[Abacus]

16. No, she's not.

I applaud her for it -- I wish her supporters would follow her lead.

[rodeodance]

17. you are right--

[SeaLyons]

21. Smear????

There is no smear here. That's Wright in those video's, and that's the church Obama selected to become a part of his life. If America has a hard time accepting it, don't try to blame the Clinton's or her supporters.

[underpants]

22. Inside DC media is-Hillary is a known quantity to them that is why they have so supported her

they thought they finally had something to get Obama with (since they don't know how to talk about ...um...black people) and Obama just turned it around and drove it right back up their collective asses.

[democrattotheend]

23. I agree

I have pointed that out to Obama supporters numerous times. But in fairness, many of her supporters here are pushing it, even if she and her campaign are not. I wish people on both sides of the candidate spectrum here could realize that this is a right wing attack that we would normally all be fighting, and that we all should be fighting.

[usrbs]

73. It's a legitimate issue.

I agreed with every word in Obama's speech, except for the passive-aggressive attack on Ferraro, but the fact that he chose this church and this pastor for a mentor, a friend, a spiritual adviser, a member of his campaign steering committee; and has attended this church for 20 years is a fact, not a right-wing meme.

You may think it's unimportant, I don't.

[Drachasor]

26. It would be dang funny if she was and this ends up boosting Obama's position in the eyes of America

She'd pull her hair out.

That said, I don't think she or her campaign is behind this.

[NashVegas]

27. Try A Date-Sorted Google Search

http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&q=%22rev+jeremiah+wright%22&sa=N&start=890

For some reason, the news page won't link properly. Here were the results:

http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/michelle_barack_obama/2008/02/21/74416.html

http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/305034

http://www.standardnewswire.com/news/977462300.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/02/obamas_spiritual_mentor_retire.html

[Tellurian]

32. And... Theres nothing about Hillary behind the Wright scandal

whats your point?

[Bad Thoughts]

29. She can't profit from it

Telling African Americans that their activist pastors are hate mongers wouldn't help Clinton, and she has been wise to try to tamp down the controversy and praising Obama's speech. Indeed, it's for both candidates' benefit that they get the public to understand the emotions and sentiments that surround memory of oppression.

[NOLALady]

79. I could see her

or her supporters attacking activist pastors to secure a certain base.

Bill Clinton's attack on a young female rapper was to send a message to reptilian brains that he was one of them. He didn't consider if the attack could turn off the black community because he knew they had nowhere else to go.

[Beacool]

30. No, the campaign is not touching this one with a 10' pole.

Fox News were the first ones to really focus on these videos and they purchased them directly from Obama's church. ABC News was the second big media outlet to also show these videos, then the rest of the media weighed in.

Obama gave a good speech yesterday but the damage is done. Too many people have seen and heard Wright's incendiary comments and they won't soon forget them.

[Voice for Peace]

31. She could do the right thing, though

instead of standing back and letting the filth proliferate.

McCain, who has as much to lose as she does, at least made a statement
more or less in defense of Obama on this issue.

She is playing a game that is fun to her and poisonous to everybody else.

[BeyondGeography]

48. McCain defended Obama in an interview with Hannity

who was baiting him repeatedly. That took some guts.

Hillary is too busy rubbing her hands together and wondering how much his will benefit her. In the process, she has lost an opportunity to at least appear principled and, here's the dumb part, plant the seeds of reconciliation with black voters whose support she will need in the unlikely event that she is the nominee.

[libbygurl]

72. Did you just ENDORSE McCAIN?

nt

[annie1]

141. she's letting him handle it. it's his pastor, he's doing just fine.

[TragedyandHope]

37. Unthinkable

Whisper campaign

[Bonobo]

54. Big deal.

That's like saying Obama never called Hillary a "fag-hag". Big deal. Of course, they wouldn't.

Hil and Bill expect support from the Black Community.

Also, she has done NOTHING to defend Obama from these attacks either -unlike the way Obama came to her defense when asked if she had the credentials to be president. Classless comes to mind as a word.

[susankh4]

57. She has really tried her best to stay out of it,

in fact.

[KingFlorez]

58. It's the right-wing that is pushing it

They are scared because they know they will lose this election and they will do anything to try and hold on. It's really obvious.

[susankh4]

61. Further than that...

I believe they are slowly leaking what they have.... so they can sit back and see how it affects the polls. This is helping them decide who they would most like to run against in November.

The real shit will hit the fan once we declare a nominee. They have bucketloads of it.

[Orsino]

62. She never had to do so.

She was content to let the issue run its course.

[JimGinPA]

63. The Timing Of This "Controversy" Is Suspicious Though...

Coming on the heels of the continuing Ferrero "flap". I've heard speculation that the Clinton camp pushed the story to the M$M. I'll withhold judgment for now, but I won't completely discount it.

[Tom Rinaldo]

67. The main street media has been on to Wright for over a year

And no doubt the Republicans have been also. Lots of possible theories for the timing. Now that they know that the nomination wasn't decided in Ohio, maybe the Republicans wanted this out there now to intensify bitterness and divisisons between Democrats during the rest of the contest. Or maybe the media at first thought they could milk this for ratings better after Obvama got the nomination during the slow news months leading up to the convention, but realized with the race still on and a month until PA they needed hot content now.

The bottom line is that this "controversy" wasn't a skeleton buried deeply in the closet, it was right there hanging on a hook for anyone to find who opened the obvious door. It was going to come out before November.

[murbley40]

94. Sure is......

If we are going to float ridiculous theories.... What if Obama's campaign was behind it?

It broke right when he seemed to be dropping in the polls and Hillary was picking up momentum and gave him a reason to make what some expected to be earth moving speech about what.....oh,
racism. By the way I found his speech so so and short of the mark.

[theredpen]

74. MCain isn't spreading it either. They're both letting their proxies do it.

[GoldieAZ49]

87. nobody had to push the Wright story

it was a ticking time bomb and was known about in many circles long before it hit the media

including Obama, that is why he uninvited him when he started his campaign...so much for transparency

[ORDem]

88. But she is not taking the high road in defusing it either. She is complicit

in her silence. She dismissed Obama's speech by saying she didn't have time to read it (BS). She wants the appearance of taking the high road, but she's again being self-serving. I don't want a person like that in the WH, sorry.

:dem:

[rodeodance]

99. She told her staff not to talk it up--Penn was asked 2x at the news confer

about Wright. He said no comment.

[Auntie Bush]

106. Some comments on this board are really

stupid. What do you want Hillary to say that would satisfy your tainted opinion of her? Should she have said...Don't believe what you see and hear on those vidios...Wright is really a nice guy and Obama was right to not throw him under the bus because he's been family for 20 years. Oh Yeah!

[AX10]

111. The net/nutroots have gone overboard.

[rucky]

92. It would be a very interesting question to the MSM, though...

Why did you choose that day - two days after the Ferraro flap - to pursue a story that's been out there for a year?

[jackson_dem]

95. They view Hillary as the bogeyman who is to blame for everything

[AX10]

109. The netroots are just as bad as the right wing activists.

[AX10]

110. The netroots are just as bad as the right wing activists.

[DemGa]

97. You don't need evidence to blame a Clinton

These Obamas simply think and feel it, and it becomes their "fact."

[PoliticalAmazon]

100. Look at Hillary supporters' posts here and elsewhere

Hillary Clinton's supporters are pushing this and, as my midwestern mother often said, "The fish rots from the head first."

[Forkboy]

101. I don't know...she has the most to gain right now.

It's certainly hardly a stretch, though my suspicions are far from proof, admittedly.

[workinclasszero]

104. Hillary, Bill and Pig Penn have been playin the race card since SC

Her supporters post thread after thread after thread pushing the Wright smear.

I'm sure Hillary has nothing to do with it.:sarcasm:

[Marie26]

105. No, she isn't.

I'm glad.

[dailykoff]

107. So let's say she's benefiting from a coordinated campaign

that leaves the actual swiftboating to her media "partners." Is that better? I don't think so.

[slinkerwink]

113. however, her surrogate, Lanny Davis is pushing it on HuffPo

[Anarcho-Socialist]

114. It's politics. She uses surrogates so that if it backfires she can wash her hands

and say "wasn't me."

[sniffa]

120. As far as I know, she's not pushing it.

If she had something to say about this, I'd take her at her word.

[ORDem]

121. Yeah, she's perfectly happy to sit back and be complicit in her silence over the matter.

She actually said that she hadn't had time to read or hear Obama's address the other day. Like no one on her staff could do it for her? A major address? She is beyond belief in her disingenuos and arrogance.

:dem:

[anamandujano]

151. She should rush to defend him after he smeared her with the race card

again and again? He sat there while the media hurled their sexist garbage at her and blamed her every time he stubbed a toe.

[ekwhite]

123. I doubt very much that the Clinton campaign is pushing the smear

They aren't exactly defending him either. This smells like a RW hit-job. They are trying to keep the infighting in the Democratic party going as long as possible. Clinton definitely benefits from the controversy, which is why the rumors are spreading, but my theory is that the Republicans want to keep the Democratic race going as long as possible to split the party and keep the primary going as long as possible. I suspect Karl Rove is behind this one.

[rodeodance]

138. for what is worth:

Hillary campaign memo: Lay off Wright


Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Hillary campaign memo: Lay off Wright
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5154644#5154644
5154644, Hillary campaign memo: Lay off Wright
Posted by robbedvoter on Wed Mar-19-08 10:02 AM

Clinton campaign: Yes on Rezko, no on Wright
by James Oliphant

The memo has apparently gone around the Hillary Clinton camp this morning: Lay off the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.

On a conference call Saturday to talk about the state of the race, Clinton campaign officials just wouldn’t go there.

“That’s really for Senator Obama to address,” said chief strategist Mark Penn.

So, before Hillary is accused of everything bad coming to Obama, you may want to consider actual facts. Or not.
http://politicalnighttrain.wordpress.com/2008/03/15/hillary-memo-lay-off-jeremiah-wright /

Mind you, this is hardly a Hillary friendly post - but I didn't have a more direct source. Those of you who do, please post it.

[Cha]

124. Today..so what fucking smear is she

out there pushing today?

[Splinter Cell]

125. Bullshit.

[Catherine Vincent]

129. Anything reported negatively against precious Obama, his supporters here always blame Hillary.

[rodeodance]

131. ********Hillary campaign memo: Lay off Wright********

Hillary campaign memo: Lay off Wright


Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Hillary campaign memo: Lay off Wright
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5154644#5154644
5154644, Hillary campaign memo: Lay off Wright
Posted by robbedvoter on Wed Mar-19-08 10:02 AM

Clinton campaign: Yes on Rezko, no on Wright
by James Oliphant

The memo has apparently gone around the Hillary Clinton camp this morning: Lay off the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.

On a conference call Saturday to talk about the state of the race, Clinton campaign officials just wouldn’t go there.

“That’s really for Senator Obama to address,” said chief strategist Mark Penn.

So, before Hillary is accused of everything bad coming to Obama, you may want to consider actual facts. Or not.
http://politicalnighttrain.wordpress.com/2008/03/15/hillary-memo-lay-off-jeremiah-wright /

Mind you, this is hardly a Hillary friendly post - but I didn't have a more direct source. Those of you who do, please post it.


Positive threads to keep up—K and R:--Wed. Please as you find them.

[varelse]

139. That's good

because no one who wants the Democrats to win in November should be doing so.

[scheming daemons]

142. Her minions here on DU are certainly pushing it......

....

[elleng]

146. It is pushed by Repubs and their media.

Repubs are only ones benefitting from divided Dem party.

Recognize the reality of politics today, folks, please.

[Stephanie]

149. LIAR

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/us/politics/20memo.html?_r=3&hp=&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1205978784-DYODfocUf%20PREVvCwoyFsg&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Finally, Mrs. Clinton’s aides hope that disclosures about Mr. Obama’s past like the one involving Mr. Wright could give superdelegates’ pause. Mr. Devine said he thought that at least in terms of Democratic primary voters Mr. Obama had turned the furor to his advantage with his speech on race.

“Obama, confronted by an issue that was boiling, seemed to wade into it with a speech that was in many ways profound,” Mr. Devine said. “As a result, now these people who were so interested and awakened by his candidacy are back with him again. Instead of this being a setback, it becomes an opportunity.”

But the audience now is as much the Democratic superdelegates, who are especially attuned to politics and questions of electability in the fall, as it is rank-and-file voters.

Mrs. Clinton’s advisers said they had spent recent days making the case to wavering superdelegates that Mr. Obama’s association with Mr. Wright would doom their party in the general election.

That argument could be Mrs. Clinton’s last hope for winning this contest.

[crankychatter]

155. I'm new Steph... could YOU top post this?

just asking... state the exact OPPOSITE of this stream as the TITLE?

or has it already been done?

[crankychatter]

154. YES SHE IS

New York Times tomorrow MORNING

"Mrs. Clinton’s advisers said they had spent recent days making the
case to wavering superdelegates that Mr. Obama’s association with Mr.
Wright would doom their party in the general election."

What do YOU call THAT?

Wow if they're lying, the New York Times could get SUED BIG... doncha think?

[Laurab]

161. I call that more than a "shred" of evidence.

I read that myself earlier today - I wasn't surprised. In fact, just like bush, nothing HRC does now will surprise me. And to think I once admired her....