Iraqis quality of life worse than before US invasion. Clinton: Not our problem.

[bunnies]

WHAT?! We invade a country illegally, we reduce their quality of life, and its not OUR problem? I guess the "gift" of freedom doesnt include luxuries like running water. How can ANY humanitarian take this position?!

Emphasis mine.

Clinton Discusses Iraq War With Young Vets

(snip)

One, Max Nitze, noted that Clinton had voted for the 2002 legislation that authorized military action and asked whether she felt "responsible for the fact that in large part the day-to-day quality of life for Iraqis is worse" than before the invasion.

In response, Clinton said she would have taken stronger steps than President Bush has to make the Iraqi government accountable for corruption and for the failure to spend more of its oil revenue to restore basic services.

"I don't take responsibility for that and I don't think it's an American problem," she said.

Later, Nitze spoke with CBS News correspondent Bianca Solorzano. "I didn't really feel like she took enough ownership for that decision," he said.

(snip)

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/19/politics/main3949989.shtml

[Raven]

1. Not an "American problem"??? Did they invite us in to trash their

country? This must be out of context...she could NOT have said that and meant it.

[bunnies]

5. According to the article, its her direct answer to that question.

I re-read it several times myself. Pretty mind-blowing.

[Lucinda]

2. You didnt emphasize the part where she talks about who IS responsible

"In response, Clinton said she would have taken stronger steps than President Bush has to make the Iraqi government accountable for corruption and for the failure to spend more of its oil revenue to restore basic services."

[bunnies]

6. Its our fault the services have been interrupted.

Its our responsibility to make sure they're restored.

[Lucinda]

10. I agree that we have a huge responsibility to the Iraqis, but if they are not

using their own monetary resources to help restore services, they are at fault.
Where is the oil reveune going if not to help their own people?

[bunnies]

13. We need to figure that out. For sure.

But we forced this government on the Iraqi people at gunpoint. And now this government is treating its people worse than the man we removed.

Its not like the Iraqi people did this to themselves. Its not even like they wanted us to go there.

So, on a humanitarian level, I think we owe them a quality of life thats at LEAST as good as what they had when they were 'oppressed'.

[Lucinda]

18. I agree But if they are making buckets of money from oil they need to step up too.

[bicentennial_baby]

3. Aaaaaaaah!

:banghead:

Fuck her...seriously. I have HAD it. First the comment about our "gift" of freedom, and now this?

[JVS]

17. She's such a monster.

[Citizen Kang]

21. not a monster

just a sociopath.

[UALRBSofL]

4. Ask Kerry if It's an American problem

The man who voted IWR and whom you VOTED for in 04.

[bunnies]

7. And this has WHAT to do with Hillary?

:shrug: Furthermore, Kerry was not my first choice. I did not vote for him in the primary and wasnt thrilled about voting for him in the general either.

[CatsDogsBabies]

8. This is irrelevant now - it is 2008

[democrattotheend]

9. Did Kerry say "not our problem"?

Sheesh, that is pretty bad. I have been a little bit more forgiving about Clinton's war vote than some other Obama supporters, but unless I misread the quote today, that's pretty indefensible.

[invictus]

11. Hillary talks like a Republican. n/t

[Scurrilous]

12. K & R

:thumbsup:

[Tom Rinaldo]

14. Knock knock

If it remains America's problem than America is obligated to stay in Iraq and fix it. The Iraq government does not want us to quickly withdraw from Iraq. They want us to stay inside Iraq and fix it also. McCain is going to argue that America needs to stay inside Iraq during the 2008 election campaign.

The Democrat, either Hillary or Barack, is going to argue that the Iraq government is not facing their responsibility to solve the problems only they can address, and they will not face that responsibility until they are convinced we are on our way out the door.

Which position do you think we should back?

[Connie_Corleone]

15. Woah! Now that's really bad.

[Megahurtz]

16. Yes you ARE responsible Hillary!

You authorized this bogus War! :mad:

[Citizen Kang]

19. I don't see any Hillary supporters in here defending this!

I can't believe she is still in this race, or that she calls herself a Democrat.

[theredpen]

20. Remember, her husband's Secretary of State shrugged off 500K dead Iraqi babies

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.

--60 Minutes (5/12/96)

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1084

[skater314159]

22. K&R

:kick: