Clinton's White House Records Show She Supported NAFTA

[slinkerwink]

"She was also involved in helping her husband win congressional approval of the North American Free Trade Agreement, a deal she now criticizes and says she would try to change.Her schedule for Nov. 10, 1993, shows her speaking at a NAFTA briefing closed to the media, with 120 people expected to attend."

http://www.clintonlibrary.gov/hrcschedules.html

Doesn't that contradict her claim about not supporting NAFTA in the White House?

[slinkerwink]

1. I thought this was interesting

[ingac70]

4. It surely is...

thanks for posting it.

[slinkerwink]

6. no problem

[jasmine621]

61. No more problem than Obama supporting Kerry and not voicing his

concerns about the Iraq war in order to not embarrass Kerry who voter for the IWR. Do you really think Hillary would publically diss Bill on NAFTA? There are, however, several witnesses from the outside who say she opposed NADTA as written and disagreed in private with Bill on this.

[krkaufman]

63. It's been demonstrated that many on DU have missed the point ...

... that Democratic leaders are generally supposed to support their own Party's candidates in elections, as opposed to, say, promoting the Republican candidate over the Democratic frontrunner.

And it's also been demonstrated that many on DU willfully or ignorantly mischaracterize Barack Obama's 2004 comments on the Iraq war vote.

As for Hillary, she may have opposed NADTA, but she has repeated voiced support for NAFTA.

[papau]

45. I also - what did she say - did she ask for changes to make it fair trade?

[slinkerwink]

46. no one knows what she said at that meetng, but she showed up to support

NAFTA.

[rinsd]

49. How can you know that without knowing her remarks?

Or do you realize that you don't know what was said and have resorted to make believe?

[slinkerwink]

50. I seriously doubt she showed up at the NAFTA briefing to hiss her disapproval of NAFTA

[rinsd]

53. We have no info beyond that she had brief remarks & 15 min scheduled for a NAFTA briefing

I am not claiming she dissed NAFTA or issued critiques because frankly I have no idea what she said.

You on the other hand seem to want to make things up

[Tom Rinaldo]

55. She supported her husband's administration

Al Gore did also. She clearly closed ranks with Bill on NAFTA in public. This says nothing about what she felt in private.

[slinkerwink]

57. uh-uh

[LSparkle]

2. HA! I predict the first of MANY interesting tidbits in those records

Either contradicting her version of events (e.g., she wasn't as involved as she
claims re the big decisions) or tying her to some of her husband's less popular
accomplishments.

[slinkerwink]

11. it just requires more attention to these records

[olkaz]

3. I dont know who thinks what on NAFTA anymore.

But it screwed my family and my area.

[Vinca]

5. 6 shuttered factories within 10 miles of where I'm sitting. nt

[maseman]

47. This is a part of Hill's experience

She really is a true politician. She lies, tweaks, squirms and flip flops.

[redqueen]

7. Yes, it does contradict her earlier claim.

[slinkerwink]

9. but it can be used to tarnish her credibility on this to rural voters

[redqueen]

12. Absolutely, considering how much she used the Canada ruckus to slam Obama. (nt)

[slinkerwink]

16. I agree

[rinsd]

28. How so? Did she deny brief remarks & spending 15 minutes at a briefing about NAFTA?

Page 1375 of the pdf for her schedule

11:30 to 11:45 AM: NAFTA Briefing Drop By
Room 450 OEOB
Closed Press

Participants: Approx. 120 expected to attend. (see briefing book for further info)

Format: Alexis Herman to intro HRC for brief remarks.

http://www.clintonlibrary.gov/Documents/HRC%20Years/HRC%201993.pdf

[slinkerwink]

44. heh, she supported NAFTA in the white house

[rinsd]

48. Again where is your evidence?

Or are you content with exagerration & misrepresentation?

[slinkerwink]

51. so the White House record is lying about her NAFTA briefing?

[rinsd]

54. You claim she supported NAFTA at the meeting with ZERO evidence.

All we have is that she scheduled 15 minutes to make brief remarks at a NAFTA briefing.

We do not have her remarks. We do not even know what the meeting's focus was.

[Hepburn]

75. Dizzy much?

:eyes:

[tekisui]

8. And that is from the non-redacted portions.

[slinkerwink]

10. they really should've redacted it

[Larkspur]

13. Obama needs to use this against Hillary in PA

Like Ohio, PA is negatively affected by NAFTA.

[slinkerwink]

14. I agree. This should be publicized as much as possible.

[rinsd]

19. His lies in OH backfired.

[slinkerwink]

24. he never lied.....hillary did

[rinsd]

31. Actually both took liberties in OH. FactCheck.org: Obama Mailing False?

We find that a mailer criticizing her position on trade is indeed misleading. One that attacks her health care plan we have previously described as straining the facts, though not exactly "false."

* Trade: A mailer showing a locked plant gate quotes Clinton as saying she believed NAFTA was "a boon" to the economy. Those are not her words and Obama was wrong to put quote marks around them. In fact, she's been described by a biographer as privately opposing NAFTA in the White House.

* Health Care: A second mailer said Clinton's health care plan "forces everyone to buy insurance, even if you can't afford it." We have previously said that mailer "lacks context" and strains the facts. But both Obama and Clinton have been exaggerating their differences on this issue.

We've also previously criticized Clinton for sending a mailer that twisted Obama's words and gave a false picture of his proposals on Social Security, home foreclosures and energy.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obama_mailings_false.html

[Romulox]

22. Except Obama supports NAFTA at least as much as Hillary. Tough to draw a contrast.

What's he going to say, "We BOTH support outsourcing your jobs!"???

[dancingme]

15. BUSTED!

:P

[slinkerwink]

17. she's no busta rhymes for sure

:-P

[rinsd]

29. Busted for what? Brief remarks?

Page 1375 of the pdf for her schedule

11:30 to 11:45 AM: NAFTA Briefing Drop By
Room 450 OEOB
Closed Press

Participants: Approx. 120 expected to attend. (see briefing book for further info)

Format: Alexis Herman to intro HRC for brief remarks.

http://www.clintonlibrary.gov/Documents/HRC%20Years/HRC%201993.pdf

[City Lights]

18. Interesting find, slinkerwink.

Who really knows where she stands on NAFTA. Her stance seems to change with her audience. :crazy:

[slinkerwink]

25. she goes wherever the political winds are

[Diane R]

20. Oh yeah. Hillary caught red-handed. No wonder she is repressing docs. What's in tax returns?

[slinkerwink]

27. she'd better release them on april 15th

[UALRBSofL]

21. And you have a problem with NAFTA

Free Trade is an issue that is split between the progressives. As a matter of fact, in Hillary's plan she will rework Free Trade that will help the Texas and southwest region as well as helping the Ohio Valley region. She has good ideas for Free Trade that will improve upon what we already have.

[cali]

23. She lied. She got busted.

She said she did not support NAFTA back then.

[slinkerwink]

26. exactly. it's time to make a big outcry about this.

it's a game-changer if we use this.

[totodeinhere]

30. This is one of many lies that she has told.

[slinkerwink]

33. it's time to run ads about this

[rinsd]

34. What lie was told?

Did she say she never spoke at a NAFTA briefing?

[slinkerwink]

35. she said she never supported Nafta in the white house

[rinsd]

38. All you found was that she made brief remarks at a NAFTA briefing.

Here's the big revelation from the pdf files that you linked to.

Page 1375 of the pdf for her schedule

11:30 to 11:45 AM: NAFTA Briefing Drop By
Room 450 OEOB
Closed Press

Participants: Approx. 120 expected to attend. (see briefing book for further info)

Format: Alexis Herman to intro HRC for brief remarks.

http://www.clintonlibrary.gov/Documents/HRC%20Years/HRC%201993.pdf

Do you have a copy of Hillary remarks?

Because otherwise how do you assume support?

[slinkerwink]

39. it shows she worked to get support of NAFTA

[rinsd]

41. How so? All it shows is that she made brief remarks at a NAFTA briefing.

It does not discuss what topics were discussed about NAFTA. It does not have her remarks.

Or do you adhere to the troll standard that is being wrongly applied to Obama and Wright, that attendance equals support.

[slinkerwink]

42. the AP article says....

She was also involved in helping her husband win congressional approval of the North American Free Trade Agreement, a deal she now criticizes and says she would try to change.Her schedule for Nov. 10, 1993, shows her speaking at a NAFTA briefing closed to the media, with 120 people expected to attend.

[rinsd]

43. Yes and that reporter is making the same mistake (deliberate or otherwise) that you are.

Employing gotcha tactics with little basis in fact.

The reporter and you make the claim that Hillary supported NAFTA based on the scheduling of 15 minutes for brief remarks a NAFTA briefing without any knowledge of her remarks or even the briefing topics regarding NAFTA.

We used to take apart such journalist sensasionalism/laziness.

You appear to embrace it.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

66. Yeah, I'm sure she told them that NAFTA sucked.

Attendance equals support when you're part of the administration that's implementing the policy. Unless you're suggesting that she was there to oppose NAFTA.

[oviedodem]

32. You would think with all the money they have they could get a better website done.

[slinkerwink]

40. well, yeah.

[OhioBlue]

36. I knew she was lying about NAFTA

I knew she was for it and helped get it passed.


All she ever does is lie..

oh and thanks Hillary.
Thanks for the job loss,
thanks for the war,
thanks for health care - oh wait... you never did get that accomplished.

[slinkerwink]

37. she's been a failure at almost everything

[chocome]

52. That is not true, cant you read ? It says NAFTA BRIEFING DROP BY (brief remarks 11:30-11:45 am)

http://www.clintonlibrary.gov/Documents/HRC%20Years/HRC%201993.pdf

11:30 - 11:45 am
NAFTA Briefing Drop-By
Room 450, OEOB
CLOSED PRESS

PARTICIPANTS: Approx 120 expected to attend


FORMAT:
-Alexis Herman intros HRC for brief remarks

[slinkerwink]

58. it shows she was involved in the NAFTA policy support

[Texas Hill Country]

56. She was on the record even then of opposing it... she supported Bills administration tho.

As she should.

[slinkerwink]

59. uh-uh

[City Lights]

64. Link please. Thanks.

[Scurrilous]

60. K & R

:thumbsup:

[slinkerwink]

62. thanks!

[OhioChick]

65. A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing.....

No surprise here.

[ecstatic]

67. Supported NAFTA, Iraq war, Iran war, whatever war it takes

to get elected.

[tabasco]

68. Hillary is a two-faced liar.

She and Bill are both liars. She is a typical politician and only tells people what they want to hear. Nothing ever gets solved by people like this.

[Cadwallader]

69. of COURSE she lied , er nuanced....

but it's ok because Hillary is very misunderstood.

She's also got the bad luck to be a good candidate caught in the historic tailwind of a incredible candidate's slipstream as he rockets to the presidency.

[TwilightGardener]

70. Clearly a lie.

[workinclasszero]

71. To the former middle class voters of Ohio:

SUCKERS!!!:spank:

Ms NAFTA AKA Hillary Rodham Clinton is on your side!!:eyes::hi:

[zulchzulu]

72. Yawn...so what...it's just ANOTHER CLINTON LIE... it's like saying the sky is blue

Why should anyone be surprised?

Maybe those halfwits in Ohio who voted for her because of NAFTA now have a little sticker shock.

[high density]

73. Yeah, but Obama's pastor said...

:hi:

[Hepburn]

74. FLB.....

.....yep, fucking lying bitch. But...am I surprised? Not in the least.