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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:39 PM
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How many times did Hillary mislead the public today? (Most people call it lying, but I'm being nice)
I have three good ones.

1) She accused Obama of blocking the re-vote in Michigan. Whoops. Even if Obama had no reservations (and he has but one or two reservations), it was irrelevant, and she knew it. It never arrived on the Michigan State Senate floor.

2) She further went on to imply that Obama's reservations about the current language of the revote was somehow a civil rights issue. Oh, really. How quickly she forgets that she flatly refused to even consider a caucus in the state which would have been essentially free of charge and would have been instantly approved. Or just last week that she was campaigning hard for seating the Michigan delegates "because it was a fair election." Wow! What a goddam hypocrite. (what's new)

3) In the bazillion calendar pages of heavily redacted documents (why the hell does the First Lady required redacting of her calendar pages?) she released today, she left blank the days that she was testifying concerning Whitewater and the day she was campaigning with Bill in support of NAFTA. That's right. She was campaigning in support of NAFTA. Not quietly pining away about how she secretly hated it -- actively campaigning for it. ARE YOU LISTENING PENNSYLVANIA? HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGNED FOR NAFTA, NOT AGAINST IT.

Goddamit. I really hate it when somebody thinks I'm too stupid to see through this crap.
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:52 PM
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1. You missed "Im the most transparent by this release" except.......
She forgot to mention it came out by court order against her which she fought the court case tooth and nail to continue to with hold.

Lying by omission and false denial is still lying.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:09 PM
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3. Grammstanding.
To use the term of the late, great Molly Ivins.

Taking credit for something you fought tooth and nail ... is revolting.

:puke:

-Laelth
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:53 PM
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2. This campaign has really made me lose respect for Senator Clinton
that is all I will say.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:10 PM
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4. I am VERY disappointed in her. Not that Obama is perfect but he's 10 time more classy and honest
...and her spin and dishonesty and being "Washingtonized" is such a turn off.

I'm just disappointed in her...
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:43 PM
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5. I wonder how we'll react if she "wins" PA the way she won Harlem, NY...
...then super delegates hand her the race? ...(It could happen)
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:44 PM
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6. Well, she never lied but to an
Obama supporter they wouldn't believe it anyway. So, what's the point?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:29 AM
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7. Yeah, what's the point? I mean, have you ever heard a Bush supporter admit to his lies?
Oh, hell no. It's part of having a poisoned mind.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:39 AM
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8. They actually claimed "National Security" as the reason for all the
scrubbing of the papers. Ridiculous.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:46 AM
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9. If I had a dime for every bullshit accusation made against Hillary at DU...
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 06:54 AM by Perry Logan
...I'd be a ditzy billionaire!

Honest, guys, some crazed DUer calls Hillary a liar every five minutes. It always gets debunked or disproved, and the debunkings are always ignored. I've seen this happen dozens of times.

I'm beginning to fear this is some sort of compulsive behavior. It sure as hell ain't good strategy.

It's like this: you have no credibility whatsoever with normal people, and--now that Obama is screwed--you are insulting our nominee, along with the millions of people who support her.

Plus you're helping the Republican Party. For free.

Plus your motives are obviously personal, if not pathological. Hillary apparently stole your wallet or something.

Plus we have to wear slime boots whenever you guys are around:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5120659

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4779500&mesg_id=4779500

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4942967&mesg_id=4942967

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4964704&mesg_id=4964704

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4965088

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4965227

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4982708&mesg_id=4982708

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5156352&mesg_id=5156412

Reporting threats against Hillary:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:48 AM
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10. Poor Hillary. She's so abused.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:51 AM
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11. You or I wouldn't have lasted five minutes.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:04 AM
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13. You don't know me very well, Perry Logan.
:)
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:42 AM
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17. How about taking a deep breath and focusing in this thread.
Three specific items were addressed, and you spoke to none of them.

I'm sorry that DU is an asylum, but we've all noticed.

I'm sorry that Hillary gets called a liar a lot, but then, so does Obama.

Now that the apologies are out of the way, let's get back on topic, shall we?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:58 AM
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12. Hillary suggests Toops in Iraq for 50 YEARS!!!!!
Sorry to piggy-back here. I'm out of OP's for the day. But, this is some chimpy/McDubya shit:

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=289124

Clinton told a group of young veterans in Lancaster, Pa., on Tuesday that one lesson of the war is to not commit troops “unless you are prepared to go all the way and are prepared to be successful.”

Questioned about her plans to begin withdrawing troops within 60 days after taking office, Clinton said U.S. forces already have fulfilled the mission they were assigned.

She said the Iraqi government has failed to create a stable political system despite the U.S. effort. “Does that mean we stay for 10 years, 30 years, 50 years? And if at the end of it the Iraqis still haven’t gotten their act together, we’re going to be facing the same tough questions.”
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:13 AM
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14. I really detest the way she keeps blaming Iraq. n/t
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:14 AM
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15. She is lining up with McCain logic!
I wish I could start an OP, but I'm out. She is suggesting 50 years! We jumped all over McCain and chimpy for saying that.

This proves she is more of the same.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:25 AM
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16. I think it proves she'll say anything.
There is no way to vet Hillary Clinton.
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