Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania & NAFTA: Doth the Lady Protest Too Much?

[BuyingThyme]

Poll question: Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania & NAFTA: Doth the Lady Protest Too Much?

Clinton hammers Obama on NAFTA before crucial primaries

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"I don't think you should come to Ohio and tell the people of Ohio one thing and then have your campaign tell a foreign government something else behind closed doors," she said in Toledo. "That's the kind of difference between talk and action that I've been talking about throughout this campaign."

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/03/democrats.primaries/?iref=hpmostpop

First lady records show Clinton promoted NAFTA

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton now argues that the North American Free Trade Agreement needs to be renegotiated, but newly released records showed on Wednesday she promoted its passage.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080319/pl_nm/usa_politics_clinton_records_dc_2

[BuyingThyme]

1. !kciK

[OhioBlue]

2. yes. The NAFTA issue has really bothered me

I couldn't believe she had the nerve to try and turn the NAFTA issue against Obama when it was the Clinton Administration that signed the damn bill. Job killing trade agreement.

[BuyingThyme]

3. It seems to bother them even more.

They're apparently staging preemptive strikes.

Even her last-minute trip to Detroit today was apparently intended to preempt the release of the First Lady NAFTA documents.

[keep_it_real]

4. She not only protest too much she distorts and lies.

Even ex-senator Bradly called her an liar; he did not mince his words. Like today she said that Obama's campaign is stalling on Michigan. But the fact is and not lie, the Obama campaign has said repeatedly whatever the DNC decides they will go along with, not make the decision above and apart from the DNC which is what she is trying to do.

She's a liar, liar and her pants are on fire.

[BuyingThyme]

5. She's apparently doing that to draw attention from her NAFTA papers.

They're obsessed with hiding her positions on NAFTA.

[BuyingThyme]

6. ..

[yuma300]

7. Breaking. Nafta meeting orgbanizer says Hillary was Nafta CRfITIC

The quote has been pulished in Hillary's website. This is huge, and a blow for the Obama campaign.

http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6639

[BuyingThyme]

8. How is Hillary's decision to unenthusiastically go along with NAFTA

a blow for the Obama campaign?

[yuma300]

9. where is the proof that she "unenthusiastically went along" with it?

The meeting organizer's words contradict that argument.
He was at the meeting. We weren't.

[BuyingThyme]

12. I got it from the link you provided.

We already knew she supported NAFTA and now, thanks to your link, we know her support was unenthusisastic.

I guess it was a political move on her part -- she did what was expedient, not what was right.

[Bigleaf]

10. Quoting Gergen? ha ha How about? Papers Expose Lies of Clinton, Emanuel & Gergen On NAFTA

From David Sirota:

ABC's Jake Tapper digs even deeper, noting that at one of the meetings, Gergen "served as a sort of master of ceremonies as various women members of the Cabinet talked up NAFTA." In other words,

Gergen has been on television deliberately lying for the Clinton campaign, as he was actually running these NAFTA-promoting events with Clinton. Tapper goes on to interview people who were in the room.

This revelation comes just as the other appendages of the Clinton machine attempts to revise history even further. This week, Rahm Emanuel - the chief White House lobbyist who rammed NAFTA through Congress - authored a Wall Street Journal op-ed praising candidates for indicting NAFTA and claiming "I share their concern for Americans who have lost their jobs to global competition." To quote my book Hostile Takeover, this is "the same Rahm Emanuel who penned an op-ed in the conservative Wall Street Journal pressuring Democrats to capitulate and pass the 2000 China trade deal - a move perfectly timed to help secure the critical votes that ultimately passed the deal."

The facts are clear: The Clinton machine joined with K Street to manufacture the very international economic policies that are destroying the economy. And yet, this same machine now claims to have had nothing to do with those economic policies - at the very moment, the machine is pushing a NAFTA-style Colombia Free Trade Agreement in Congress. We are, in short, experiencing the renaissance of "Clintonism" - an ideology that treats Americans like we are stupid and treats basic undebatable facts as commodities to be manipulated and perverted for personal gain. And that renaissance should make everyone question all the recent promises by Clinton about changing NAFTA.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/20/111456/222/328/480723

[Lucinda]

11. All the records show is that she activities realted to NAFTA.

None of it shows her opinion on NAFTA.

[BuyingThyme]

So she really had no say and did what she was told?

[Lucinda]

15. I assume she said plenty and worked on her husbands behalf as well.

They aren't mutual exclusive occurrences.

[OzarkDem]

13. You guys need to make up your mind

You keep saying she wasn't involved deeply in policy during Bill's WH years, yet you contradict yourselves with this junk.

Grasping at straws.

[BuyingThyme]

14. Well the case seems to be that she did whatever she was told

and did not do what she thought was right.

So I guess we're right on both ends.