I'm getting angrier and angrier at Senator Clinton

[Seen the light]

I'm *this* close to giving her the nickname of Senator Huckary Rodham Clinton. She has no chance to win the nomination without the Council of Elders anointing her. The only purpose she is serving right now is to give us less of a chance to win in November by destroying Senator Obama at every turn. Really another form of Ralph Nader if you will.

The blood is starting to boil. Comfort me DU! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[AGirl]

1. blah, you are always angry at her anyways.

[judasdisney]

101. She Has Behaved Disgracefully Against Her Own Party

Declaring McCain a better potential President than her Democratic opponent?

Indefensible and a permanent stain. Those who would try to defend ANY Democrat who would do this: You do not have the best interests of the party at heart.

Without an apology from her (or ANY Democrat who would do this), she is permanently tainted.

[pbca]

2. Can't comfort you

I've been saying it for a month now. Voting for Clinton now is the equivalent of voting for McCain in the General

[rug]

8. Get your script straight. Is she Nader or McCain?

[QC]

21. SATAN!!1! SHE IS SATAN!1!!!1 n/t

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

67. She's FAKE FAKE FAKE

she's not for the voters, and the media is playing along by pretending she could even
catch up.

[TML]

3. You're on to something there

We'll call her Hillary Rodham Nader.

[jlake]

4. The news would be if you weren't hating on the Goddess of Peace.

[cliffordu]

13. LOL

That's the funniest fucking thing I've heard here. :rofl:

[Hawkeye-X]

29. Goddess of Peace?

You are fucking delusional. You know it has been 5 years since Clinton voted for the war that has killed almost 4,000 Americans and half a million Iraqi's? Hardly peace.

Hawkeye-X

[jlake]

31. Nice to see you took me off of ignore... missed me didn't you?

:hug:

[Hawkeye-X]

43. Nope.

You still need to go to a Pittsburgh mental hospital and doped up on heavy Thorazine.

Hawkeye-X

[jlake]

45. Bwahahahaha you are so vile it is ridiculous..... but it's good to know they have

internet access in the nuthouse in case I do ever end up there.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[cbayer]

48. Thorazine is rarely used anymore

except for hiccups.

[Hawkeye-X]

52. Ok what do they use nowadays to calm these delusional people?

100,000 Celexas? Prozac? Wellbutrin? What?

[cbayer]

56. Let me give you my office number and we can discuss in private.

Okay? I promise complete discretion.

[Hawkeye-X]

69. No thanks. I'm already on meds for depression.

I will freely admit to taking Celexa.

There. Happy?

Hawkeye-X

[cbayer]

76. I truly hope you are feeling well.

Seriously. I am not your enemy.

:hug:

[Hawkeye-X]

83. I know. I have taken all people off my ignore.

I gotta build my tolerance for disgust.

I'm doing okay though. I should be focusing on my dad, but I have a cold at the moment.

[Mooney]

57. Electroconvulsive therapy. n/t

[cliffordu]

87. I'm partial to the Lamictal happiness, my self...

:smoke:

[HughMoran]

74. Vicious!

Wow, you're a real MONSTER!

[Divernan]

85. That would be Western Psych - known for patients with the Thorazine shuffle.

[Zhade]

62. Downright Orwellian, isn't it?

Fucking disgusting, too.

[JTFrog]

100. The GOP part is true. Ignored just has a problem with defining acronyms. n/t

[HooptieWagon]

88. The same goddess of peace who voted to cluster-bomb children?

Is that the one you're referring to?

[jlake]

89. That is a bald faced lie. The Hillster never voted to cluster-bomb children.

Your comment is in extreme poor taste, and completely distorts the intentions of the bill.

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

[HooptieWagon]

97. The intention of the amendment to the bill

was to prohibit the use of cluster bombs in civilian populated areas. Civilians = woman, children, and non-combatants. Hillary voted against the amendment, ergo she's in favor of dropping cluster bombs on civilian populations, which includes children. Spin until you're dizzy, but by her voting record she's a war-mongerer and murderer.

[Why Syzygy]

98. Are you sure you want to call her The Hillster?

[depakid]

5. You know, this naive and arrogant "entitlement" attitude irritates me just as much

Obama requires superdelegates to win too- and by the time the convention rolls around- he could easily be just as untenable as Hillary.

[Seen the light]

12. Forgive me for believing that winning the votes of the people makes you entitled to win the nominati

on. You're right, that does tend to give Obama supporters an entitlement attitude.

[depakid]

18. Gee -last I saw it was pretty close, and NEITHER candidate will have the number required

to be nominated via "the votes of the people."

[Seen the light]

22. You're part of the problem

By pinning your hopes for Huckary on our undemocratic system of superdelegates, you and people that think like you do are no better than the Republican Supreme Court that selected George Bush as president in 2000.

[depakid]

53. See, there you go again

Who said anything about "pinning hopes on Hillary."

Get over it- she's not the boogieman, and you can't simply characterize every person who has a take that differs from your arrogant naivety as a Hillbot or some such thing.

FACTS are, Obama needs superdelegates, too.

Moreover, it may come to pass that people will have reason to recall the original purpose of the superdelegates- which was to avoid another McGovern style disaster.

If that happens- I hope they show more political fortitude than what we've seen from Congress this past 8 years- because I for one, prefer not to hand the far right another election.

[Zhade]

65. Yes, Obama needs the SDs. Which will go with the winner. Which is him.

NT!

[depakid]

71. LOL.

I reckon we'll see at the convention how it goes.

He may win, he may not- but simple minded statements won't coronate a candidate today any more than they did last fall when the inevitability crowed pummeled GD-P with cheap media polls to "prove" their point.

[Cha]

63. Well, you obviously have it wrong..

but, then that's what clinton supporters do.

[depakid]

73. You've been around for a long time

so I tend to expect more from you than shallow accusations like that...

And I like to think I have good reason, from what I've read over the years.

[annie1]

23. voting isn't over yet. millions of people have yet to vote.

[Zhade]

64. Then ask clinton and her supporters to stop expressing such entitlement.

NT!

[UALRBSofL]

6. You have no conception of how the delegate count works

If I may remind you Mondale was behind Hart about 50 delegates after all the primaries but the SD's gave him the nomination because they thought he was more electable. Remember hart had that affair.

[MonkeyFunk]

37. You're very wrong

Hart was far, far away from enough delegates. At the convention, Mondale bested him by 1000 delegates. He was 700 delegates away from the nomination.

And his "affair" derailed his campaign in 1988, not 1984, when he ran against Mondale.

[UALRBSofL]

40. I don't think I'm wrong but I'll go google it.

:)

[moc]

55. You are correct MonkeyFunk. If I recall correctly, Mondale was ahead of

Hart by 600-700 delegates.

[UALRBSofL]

78. Monkeyfunk here is a link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4747146

[MonkeyFunk]

99. How does a link to someone else's uninformed post on DU

prove your point?

Mondale was far ahead of Hart in delegates but still shy of the number needed to put him over the top. The superdelegates gave Mondale the number of votes needed to secure the nomination, but Hart was still hundreds of delegates behind.

At the convention, Mondale received 2191 delegates. Hart received 1200.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)_presidential_primaries,_1984#Convention

Sorry - you'll have to copy/paste the entire link. The parentheses are throwing it off.

and do you concede that the Donna Rice affair occurred in 1988, not 1984?

[gravity]

7. At least Obama is being "vetted"

It's better for this shit to get out of the way now instead of in October

[Why Syzygy]

27. I think he is getting STRONGER. Hey!

Why don't we stop buying into the Rove media lies that our guy can't take it?

Everything that gets thrown at him only makes him shine all the more from where I'm looking.

Buying into their negativity can only increase the energy of it, so I won't do it.
They sure are TRYING to bring him down. It does remind me of a cartoon with the wicked mustache twirling evil getting more and more angry and frustrated at every foil.

Think STRONG!

[lapfog_1]

9. I think it's obvious that she is now running

to make sure that McCain is elected... so she can run against him in 2012.

[cbayer]

54. Yeah, that's obvious.

I didn't recognize it until last night when I was visited. "They" told me the truth and now I know FOR SURE

[Horse with no Name]

10. It doesn't take much to rile you about her

She is *allowed* to try to fulfill her destiny just like obama is *allowed* to try and fulfill his.
Obama has had the funds, the love of the media and the grassroots support. Plenty of opportunity to close the deal and he hasn't done it.
You all ragged and ragged on Edwards saying IF Edwards got out...then yer guy would win.
Well, he has been out for some time. Still, not much else.
This is indicative of a larger problem than Hillary still being in the race.

[AJH032]

11. rules, rules, rules...

I find it funny that Obama supporters vehemently defend the rules regarding counting Florida and Michigan...

but then when it comes to the rules regarding superdelegates (which allow the SD's to vote for whomever they want), Obama supporters call them unfair and wrong.

oh well.

[TahitiNut]

33. Candy Bar justice is called for. One side propose an alternative and the other makes a choice.

... between the status quo (delegates NOT seated) or the proposed alternative. NEITHER side has any 'right' to demand the other accept their proposal.

[citygal]

14. I have defended Hillary Clinton since 1992.

I always genuinely liked and respected her.

Since February 5th of this year, I have started to understand all the things the Repukes have said about her. And I am not only angry at her for dragging this thing on and damaging the party, but I am angry at her for becoming that which the Repukes have always accused her. Ruthless and willing to sacrifice anything - including the Democratic party and it's chances of taking back Executive Branch - for personal ambition.

It's very disappointing. If somehow she becomes the nominee (which would go against everything democratic BTW), I will very unenthusiastically vote for her.

[annie1]

20. why do you say it's her personal ambition and nothing else?...

if polls have her in a dead heat with obama, (even though yes, i know, polls don't count) and if she truly believes she can get more done for this country why should she bow out? why doesn't obama drop out? i would never want or expect him to.

[Seen the light]

26. It would be one thing if she was running a positive campaign

But by dragging Obama down to unelectable hell with her, it hurts all of us and it isn't right.

[annie1]

36. maybe, maybe not. I keep trying to think what i would do in her shoes...

and i would say whatever negative i felt about him. and if i felt he wasn't ready, i would certainly say so. i will agree that i wouldn't have let penn near my campaign with a 10 foot pole. i don't like all of her decisions, but i don't think they suggest she wants power just for the sake of having power. she's helped people for a looooong time. And i don't think there is anything that has been done to make obama unelectable in the least. worst thing she said was that 'he has a speech he wrote in 2002'. that was the worst part and sometimes i feel like that too. i'm sorry. not sure i would have said it myself, but she's always always always been that way. remember the cookie comment? it was the same thing, that's how she talks, that's the way she is. and anyone who thinks he's not experienced enough doesn't think so because she said so. i didn't think it way before she said it. she didn't reinforce it for me, some days i think he is, some days i don't. she's just swatting at him. he's fine. mccain's going nowhere but down. but i don't see anything to say she doesn't care. the possibility always exists, but she's not doing him any damage.

[cbayer]

59. You have started to understand all the things the Repukes have said about her?

That's comforting.

[Cha]

66. I defended her too..not since

Oct 2002, though.

[JVS]

15. Huckery

:rofl:

[AX10]

16. The Obama-mob is always mad at HRC for something.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5166113&mesg_id=5166180

[ElsewheresDaughter]

50. !

[annie1]

17. too much time in the blogosphere. high emotions over barack +.

many hateful thing being written about hrc, + her own real flaws + a long campaign (frustration) = anger. it's not all her. some, yes, i understand, but it's not all her.

[NoPasaran]

19. Try this

Also available in suppository form.

[ExtraGriz]

41. lol...one suppository please!!

:bounce:

[JimGinPA]

24. She Is Getting Your Anger...

The old fashioned way, she's earned it.


K&R

[rucky]

25. It's all good.

Give her a chance to go gracefully. There's 3+ weeks before Pennsylvania, and she's not going anywhere as long as she's leading. How we occupy ourselves during the next couple weeks will set the tone for the GE. We already know how Obama's going to play it.

[Life Long Dem]

28. I know, I know, but we are going to have to start coming together soon.

I think Hillary supporters know what she is doing. Okay there are still a number of Hillary supporters who are baiting. But I think they don't reflect all the Hillary supporters. Maybe we should just all ease up on each.

Since I believe we all know what Clinton is doing, and though you may want your candidate to win with all your heart, I believe you will be strong enough to control things before they do get out of hand and starts to hurt our, and your own party.

[FlyingSquirrel]

30. Oh, for a second I thought you said, "Confront me DU"!

That would be a lot more likely to happen than being comforted.

:rofl:

[Auntie Bush]

32. Are you actually saying and believing Hillary is running because she

wants "to give us less of a chance to win in November". I thought she wanted to be president! I thought you people said she's do anything because she want to be president. Make up your collective minds because I'm getting angrier and angrier at Obama supporters. My blood is starting to boil. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Life Long Dem]

42. That's exactly what is being said.

Hillary wants to be president in 2012 by taking out Obama and giving her support to McCain.

Why would you be mad?

[Auntie Bush]

58. Why would you be mad?

I always get mad at bullsh** and lies and distortions. I can't believe you really BELIEVE THAT CRAP. You are drunk on Obamkaid.

[Life Long Dem]

90. And your baiting

[Sadie5]

34. Quit posting fabrications

Hillary would win hands down if Obamazoid would drop out. Hillary isn't holding him back, it's the other way around.

[Cha]

91. hilaryass is losing why would

Obama drop out? He's going to win and hilary's going to go home and suck her thumb.

[elleng]

35. FOLKS, PLEASE CALM DOWN.

The only ones who benefit from Divide and Conquer the Dems are the Repubs.

PLEASE STOP all the unkindness.

[CoffeeCat]

38. All I can do is let you know...

...that someone else across the pond is very disgusted, revolted, saddened
and sickened that a louse like Hillary Clinton is doing this.

She's working every angle, to make sure that if she's not the Dem nominee,
that no one can be.

It's like a two-year old having a temper tantrum--but on a much grander
scale which involves fucking with our democracy and turning our party
into a shell of its former self.

CNN talked about a recent poll, in which 20 percent of Democrats said they
would not vote for Hillary. You're not alone. Others are just as sickened.

[Snarkoleptic]

39. Her campaign is doomed.

Do the math...or just fume and rant.
http://www.slate.com/id/2185278/
It's a great interactive representation of how the delegate count will be unfold.
You can click on the arrows and slide L or R to estimate how you think the remaining primaries are going to play out.
How much damage will be done to the party base if the SD's undo the will of the people? A bunch!!
The young voters who've become active during this election cycle are particularly likely to stay home in November if the popular vote and delegate count are overruled by SD's.
IMHO

[meow mix]

44. me too

im so tired of hillarys twisted sick campaign. i dont even want to hear the word hillary ever again

[ElsewheresDaughter]

46. anger management.....

[durrrty libby]

47. Bambi has no shot at winning the GE so boil away

[cbayer]

49. Here you are.

Get it all out. You will be more reasonable after you do.

[screembloodymurder]

51. I'll say the same for her supporters.

It takes a big man to admit that you're whooped.

[Cha]

60. I feel your pain, Seen The Light!

My son, who is on Kauai,and I call each other for just such "comforts"..when he saw hilary calling Obama "Un American" today he was wanting to go through the tv screen and ask who the fuck she thinks she is.

He says Jack Cafferty was calling her on her bullshit today and everyone on his panel agreed that it wasn't Obama's fault that MI and FL broke the rules.

[Zhade]

61. Too late, she's now Huckary.

Brilliant, btw.

[AX10]

68. Obambi will lose the GE now.

[davidpdx]

105. Maybe you should go back to the mothership

you know the Hillaryis44 site. That's the only place I've heard people spew the same shit you are saying.

[Teaser]

70. Let it go.

It'll work itself out.

[HughMoran]

72. You really think she has a chance to get the nod huh?

I guess it's possible

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

75. ROARRRRRR!!! ROFLMAO!!!!! Oh That Feigned Anger Is Just Too Damn CUTE!!!!!

:rofl:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

77. yapyapyap Hillary's an agent of Satan yapyapyap agent of Satan yapyap Hillary.....

.

[stillcool]

79. One thing keeps running through...

my mind, and that is Bush vs. Gore. I think about the fake Brooks Brothers riot. I think about Howard Baker III, and his bleating all over the television screen. And I think about the 5-4 Decision that Selected Bush. Democracy Clinton Style.

[guruoo]

80. You shouldn't have asked for it, then.

New rule: think twice before you swiftboat a fellow Democrat.

[global1]

81. Hillabee.........nt

[LulaMay]

82. She has as much right to run for and win this nomination as any candidate. It 'Belongs' to no one!

start getting it into your head.

[wileedog]

84. Of course she has the right to

She has the right to drag this out kicking and screaming until the last dying moment, to set fire to the entire party in her quest to overturn the votes, to scar the presumptive nominee and provide the Republicans with dozens of talking points all on her own, and completely screw up what should have been a slam dunk election. Heck she may wind up actually disenfranchising the entire black and young voters blocs from Democrats for an entire generation just to pray her 1% chance comes in that she wins this thing.

She has as much right to do that as anyone.

OR she has the right not to. Which way does it seem she is going?

[Rageneau]

86. She is playing by the rules. You have a problem with that?

I would be VERY disappointed with Hillary if she were to quit before she has actually been defeated.

If it was the fourth quarter of the SuperBowl, and your team was behind by 13 points with only 1:17 on the clock, would you say the situation is hopeless, and order your team to leave the field before someone got hurt on a meaningless play?

Neither would Hillary. She'd play hard until the last second ticked off the clock.

Like Bill before her, she will fight until the last dog dies. That's just another reason she ought to be the next president.

[HooptieWagon]

95. More like fourth quarter of a playoff game

and your team is up by 3 TDs, and the opponants are still blitzing and trying to take out your QB's knees so he'll be as injured as possible for the Super Bowl...

[Skip Intro]

92. God Damn Democracy!

or something like that

I so do hope you don't call her those names tho, she whoudln't know how to take it.

:eyes:

[mckeown1128]

93. Hillary's campaign had an advisor on NPR...

saying how McCain could be the Theodore Roosevelt of the 21st century. (I didn't catch which NPR program it was... but it was all about McCAin)

She isn't planning on running a GE campaign. She is just trying to sabatoge Obama at this point.

[Huge Ego Sorry]

94. Personally, I just call her #24...

and wait for the House fans to chuckle with me.

[AgadorSparticus]

96. Ever since she made it clear that McCain is her BFF, I started noticing

and I'm getting angrier and angrier as she keeps on with her dirty tactics.

[Unbowed]

102. BIG Difference between Huck & Hillary...

Huck overstayed his welcome, true. But he was a gentleman about it. Hillary hasn't been as nearly as nice as her Republican counterpart.

[HooptieWagon]

103. True that.

"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" comes to mind...

[chocome]

104. ABC NEWS - Democratic Civil War on the Web, Obama bots go full assault on dk

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=4491667&page=1

The veneer has been torn off, and the brazen dishonesty is finally on display," a blogger named David Sirota wrote. "Why doesn't she just get the hell off the stage? Enough is enough!" a poster chimed in.

Added another: "These people and their $50 million in personal sleaze wealth, along with their using any segment of the electorate for power, must be thrown out of the party."

Was this a Republican Web site? A discussion group for conservatives?

It was one of the most influential blogs on the political left, Daily Kos, and the posters were liberals enraged at Hillary Clinton and her husband, the former president