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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:18 PM
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"Instead of distancing himself and moving past this moment, he sort of owns it now,"
"Instead of distancing himself and moving past this moment, he sort of owns it now," Republican strategist Kevin Madden argued after Obama's speech. (Madden worked for Mitt Romney's campaign, which went through equally thorny contortions over religion.) "Barack Obama, before all this, was at a point where his appeal transcended race. He was somebody that voters -- white and black both -- looked at as a candidate not viewed through the prism of white or black. he has become that."
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<http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/03/20/obama_attacks/index1.html>

Hillary's opponent is dead man walking, mortally and ironically wounded by defending his religious mentor's bigotry.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:20 PM
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1. As per MITT ROMNEY's strategist???
Yeah right. When do we start calling this place Free Republic II?
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:10 AM
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21. I agree, not to mention he was a LOSING strategist!
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:21 PM
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2. Practice Saying "President Barack Obama"...
You'll eventually get used to it.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:29 AM
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30. President McBush will have many nice words to say about his lame opponent, Rezko O'Wright.
Because he simply couldn't have won without him.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:28 PM
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3. Romney's campaign staff?
You are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:29 PM
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4. It's funny how the official game of the political stooge
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 10:30 PM by C_U_L8R
is not framing your own candidate in the best possible light
but painting the other guy with the worst possible (and totally bullshit) attributes.

It becomes very interesting when we study the tactics of these turdblossums
and it also renders them useless. Look at how this Kevin Madden structured
his smear or rather framing... the language construction is fascinating.
And it's effective.. if you're not paying attention.
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:31 PM
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5. A Romney campaign advisor?
I'm not too interested in what this concern troll has to say. How many states did Romney win again?
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:45 PM
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6. Funny none of Hillary's opponent's minions touch on the subject
I guess that's too real
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:56 PM
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11. Read this from hillarys home state newspaper

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/us/politics/20memo.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin


Clinton Facing Narrower Path to Nomination

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She has to defeat Mr. Obama soundly in Pennsylvania next month to buttress her argument that she holds an advantage in big general election states.

She needs to lead in the total popular vote after the primaries end in June.

And Mrs. Clinton is looking for some development to shake confidence in Mr. Obama so that superdelegates, Democratic Party leaders and elected officials who are free to decide which candidate to support overturn his lead among the pledged delegates from primaries and caucuses.

For Mrs. Clinton, all this has seemed something of a long shot since her defeats in February. But that shot seems to have grown a little longer

I wouldn't get so cocky if i was you
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:11 PM
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13. She needs to hang in there while Obama completes his meltdown.
They are neck and neck, but for some self imposed party clusterfuck.

She will be there to pick up the mantle when Obama realizes he should try to save what's left of his career.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:13 PM
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14. I guess thats your idea of hope
good luck to you
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:27 AM
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29. no matter--She is standing tall.
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:04 AM
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34. Why do you keep referring to
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 04:04 AM by mythyc
Obama as Hillary's opponent? seems a supercilious circumlocution . . . . :shrug:
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:46 PM
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7. That's called having "integrity". Your candidate should get some.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:47 PM
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8. LOL...crazier than a shithouse rat.
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LukeSkywalker Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:53 PM
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9. Ask Hillary why she didn'y distance herself from R. Murdoch
Why don't you Hillary supporters ask Hillary to disown Rupert Murdoch? Remember that stint awhile back when she buddied up with him for a fundraiser? Here let me remind you:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/09/politics/main1600694.shtml

And here's an experiment you can try at home... go over to Cannonfire's website, mention Hillary and Murdoch and see how fast your post gets deleted:

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6604414&postID=2355923753522742038
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:55 PM
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10. It's too hard to pick a pocket from a distance unless you use The Force.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:59 PM
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12. What the hell was he supposed to say? "I'm not really Black."
I guess Obama could distance himself by putting on whiteface and saying it was all a joke, he's really white.

Stupid analysis by a moron. (I saw it on CNN.) he was ranting and raving and trying to make it sound like Wright eats babies.

Obama did exactly what he should have done.
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:15 PM
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15. I think he's been injured badly by this. It is really sad.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:23 PM
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16. It's sad he used his grandmother to justify his racist religious mentor
It's sad he used the civil rights as cover for his poor character.
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:30 PM
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19. No, whats sad is people like you twisting things into a mockery of what they are
and seeming proud of it
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:49 PM
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20. I heard no solutions from him.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:20 AM
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25. You have a point, but I think the speech
over and above being intended as damage control to potentially incendiary damage to the campaign, was intended to start a serious dialogue, not to offer solutions. The solutions come from all of us, or they don't come at all. Sadly for America, to date we've all done a poor job at solutions.

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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:21 AM
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26. So you think Obama should be a savior then? Provide solutions to all problems?
He's never tried to be that or proposed him as that. Indeed, one of his most significant positions is that we should all figure out the solutions together. That's part of his platform, in fact, regarding Open Government.

So, no, he didn't propose any solutions. But he did say we should TALK about it, which is something we haven't been doing.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:26 PM
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17. You wish.
clinton's done.

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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:27 PM
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18. But soft! What light through yon window breaks?
It is the East and Barack is the sun!

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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:13 AM
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22. Until yesterday, Obama said the only thing controversial he knew
about Rev. Wright was his stand on issues relating to Africa, abortion and gay marriage. …

His initial reaction to the initial ABC News broadcast of Rev. Wright’s sermons denouncing the U.S. was that he had never heard his pastor of 20 years make any comments that were anti-U.S. until the tape was played on air.

But yesterday, he told a different story. “Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes,” he said in his speech yesterday in Philadelphia.ABC News

What does this make obama to be? uh huh a liar, liar......
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:16 AM
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23. No contradiction there, sorry. Good luck in 2016, Hillary!
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 12:16 AM by GarbagemanLB
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:22 AM
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27. how many threads have you posted the same thing in?
how absurd you are.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:26 AM
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28. he lied. Ded he say he was sorry????????
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:19 AM
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24. Explain why we should give a shit what Kevin Madden has to say?
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 12:25 AM by backscatter712
He's a GOP strategist, who does political spin for a living. Not only that, as evidenced by the smoking ruin of Romney's campaign, he obviously isn't very good at it.
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:50 AM
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31. What?
He stood there and talked about living with his white grandparents, gave a remarkably nuanced description of white resentment, and then ended it with a demand that we make life better for all Americans. You're really gonna sit there and tell me that Rev. Wright's anger destroyed Obama?
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:04 AM
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32. he's white and black, dumbass. he does transcend race.
He is the very definition of it, Buckethead.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:06 AM
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33. In his Republican dreams. n/t
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