Hillary's experience in foreign relations

[question everything]

When we started debating this issue, I would comment on her trips to many places, as First Lady, meeting with leaders and regular folks of different countries and cultures, being exposed to them and being able to understand them.

I ran into a January TIME report that summarized this, in her trip to South Asia:

And as she went from place to place, visiting local programs that helped women overcome the vicious prejudices visited upon them by male-dominated cultures, a metamorphosis took place: gradually, she seemed to put the health-care debacle behind her and realize there was other work to be done, if not as co-President, then as First Lady. There were all these women who needed a public voice. One day in Ahmadabad, India, she visited a remarkable economic program for untouchable women who were ragpickers. They sang We Shall Overcome for her in Gujarati, and tears filled her eyes. All us cynics in the press corps went weepy too.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1702367,00.html

[LulaMay]

1. But, but, she's never done a thing for women!... except everything she can. She's wonderful.

The JUNK people have posted here about her is so rotten.

Somebody wrote me that once, that she'd never helped women at all.

[Divernan]

11. I specially just love her women only conservative prayer cell! & her pro anti-personnel bomb vote

"Ya know" when HRC voted against banning the anti-personnel bomblets - those cute little yellow bombs which have killed and maimed HUNDREDS OF CIVILIAN WOMEN AND LITTLE BOYS AND GIRLS. Maybe you think her vote was OK, cause all those sweet kids whose pictures you can see at the link - well just between you and me - their skin is a little "dusky" - ya know what I mean? And I mean, Hill's good buds in Israel really rely on carpetbombing civilian areas with thousands and thousands of those bomblets immediately before a cease fire. Some military/industrial arms manufacturer makes good money selling those - always ready to make a political contribution to people who vote "the right way," wink-wink, ya know?!?

And I also really luuuuuuuuuuuv the role model HRC sets for little girls. Find a man, marry him and then enable your hound of a husband to cheat on you for decades but hang on for the perks of being married to a powerful guy - cause women can't make it on their own, ya know? Even women with an Ivy law degree!

www.soawne.org/CollateralDamage.html


Collateral Damage and the Uncertainty of Afghanistan”
Photos and article by Linda Panetta

Please check back to view additonal photos within this article, as well as links to hundreds of photos from Afghanistan.

The following should be seen as an overview of the recent history of Afghanistan as well as a reflection of my all too short visit there. We started out for Afghanistan the afternoon of June 14. Three days later we were finally landing in Kabul, the capitol of Afghanistan. As I gazed down from the window of the rattling airplane, I was amazed to see how the desert sands seemingly silted the roof tops of the buildings and homes below. Approaching the landing strip one could see the twisted metal of what appeared to be a helicopter, while the remnants of destroyed airplanes littered the grassy median - abrupt reminders of the ongoing warfare that has plagued this purged region of the world.

Early into my visit a young girl approached me and with a smile from ear to ear, she rather persuasively told me that I should give her my notebook. Her smile alone was worth ten thousand notebooks-without a second thought I conceded it to her. Her younger brother, Ehsanullah Nasrullah, who is eight, also thoroughly enjoyed attending school. In fact, he excelled so well that he was many grades ahead of the other children his age.

One morning Nasrullah and his cousin, Nabile, were running late for class. As they scurried to school, Nabile’s attention was drawn to a small yellow canister. Thinking it was one of the yellow cans of biscuits/rations that the US had dropped, he picked it up. Without warning the can began to smoke. Unaware of its deadly contents, Nabile threw it into the air-in the direction of Nasrullah. The canister detonated, sending shrapnel in all directions, tearing flesh from the bodies of the two young boys. Nasrullah’s wounds were nearly fatal; so severe, in fact, that doctors wanted to amputate his two legs as well as an arm. Thankfully, a German soldier was able to arrange to have him flown to Germany for special treatment and surgery. Eight months later, Nasrullah returned home to his family. His legs and arm were retained, but the physical struggles remained persistent as even walking is, at times, painful.

[Bonobo]

2. Hardly experience that qualifies her as POTUS. Director of a shelter maybe!

[Johnny__Motown]

3. OK, she cried. we have all seen her cry..... what did she do to help those poor women?

[FrenchieCat]

4. Her presence was enough, I presume.

[rodeodance]

7. get a life.

[roguevalley]

9. list her accomplishments. get a life is hardly a great rebuttal.

[The Wielding Truth]

5. Seems she did help the Peace process in Ireland.

I was curious to see if Hillary was Irish and found this.

http://www.irishecho.com/newspaper/story.cfm?id=18626

Anyone criticizing her foreign policy involvement should look at her very active and positive approach to Northern Ireland and speak with the people of Northern Ireland who have the highest regard for her and are very grateful for her very active support for our peace process," Hume concluded in his defense of Hillary's Irish legacy.


Not surprisingly, some of the senator's most vocal defenders have been women activists from Northern Ireland.


In a series of statements compiled by labor and fair employment advocate Inez McCormack, Clinton was lauded for her "decade-long support" of the peace process.


"We believe it is important for others to know the pivotal role Mrs. Clinton played in helping us in Northern Ireland at critical junctures in the peace process. She supported us over many years and we will always be grateful to her," said McCormack


"Hillary Clinton took risks for peace in asking me and others to bring women and communities from both traditions to affirm their capacity to work for common purpose," McCormack said.


"She used her immense influence to give women like me space to develop this work and validated it every step of the way. This approach is now taken for granted but it wasn't then. She told us that if we take risks for peace, she would stay with us on that journey. In my experience, it took hard work, attention to detail and a commitment of time and energy which she delivered steadily and where needed over the last decade," McCormack

[PerfectSage]

6. Yes but that was the "old" "liberal" Hillary Clinton with presidential ambitions...

...and no integrity. But the post 2000 "new and improved" Senetor Clinton with presidential ambition and no integrity, became a "centrist" democrat/foreign policy warhawk. Hence the 2002 IWR.

Perhaps those untouchable women should have sang: "Killing in the name of" by RATM: #### you(American capitalist/globalist pigs), I won't do what'cha tell me. I'm sure Noam would shit his pants from laughing so hard after reading your ridiculous post. He wouldn't buy it. Neither do I. Nice try.

Warning: This post contains sexist and racist subject matter which may be offensive to people who are afraid to think for themselves.

Gobama!
Go Dean's 50 State Strategy!
Go Grassroots!

[question everything]

8. Who is Noam and why should I be bothered of what he thinks?

I thought that you post is about people who can think for themselves. You, obviously, need the opinions of others to justify yours.

And, yes, your post is sexist in the way that you are so dismissive of women in third world who are still under constant suppression.

[Divernan]

10. Don't you bother your little head with Noam Chomsky - he's for thinking people

You prattle about not caring what others think and that you think for yourself. Well if you "think for yourself" in a vacuum, i.e, without reading/considering the thoughts of social activists like Noam Chomsky - or anyone but yourself, evidently, you are the most boring and unpersuasive of narcissists. Life is a learning experience, from cradle to grave. No one expects you to parrot what others think, but if you take the trouble to educate yourself, you will stretch your mind and become better able to debate values and ideas. Ever heard of thesis-antithesis-synthesis?

Here are a few thoughts from Noam:
"All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume."
Noam Chomsky

"Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media."
Noam Chomsky

"As soon as questions of will or decision or reason or choice of action arise, human science is at a loss."
Noam Chomsky