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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:33 AM
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Instead of focusing on Obama's oratory skill, let's acknowledge that he is one of our great THINKERS
This is what really gives me confidence in him. This is why I'm so insulted by the charge that all Obama does is float empty rhetoric. He's one of the most exciting thinkers to hit mainstream American politics that I've ever experienced.

His entire brand of political framing, which he has engineered by taking the best of the best from diverse influences of political thought, is so innovative and so effectively communicated--it's hard not to be excited about it. It's hard to be cynical about it. That is by design, and it is also intuitively what he senses that we all really want right now.

It is artful the way he attacks a problem. It's refreshing and inspiring to watch. His strategies and solutions so far in this campaign have exemplified some of the best traits of creative thinking, tactical thinking, logic, and empathy--it's belittling to say that there's nothing more than words fueling his campaign.

Let's hear it for Obama, the Thinker.





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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:38 AM
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1. rudy23, I second that. With enthusiasm.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:38 AM
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2. Great post and thank you for your analysis.
I really think his approach is novel and important. You put it into words for me. :thumbsup:
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:40 AM
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3. This is why I preferred him from the first debate I saw, because he spoke as an intellectual
not so much as a politician
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:41 AM
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4. What would be example one?
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:49 AM
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7. A refreshing approach at dealing with "rogue" nations is a fine example
Going against the current paradigm of freezing out our enemies is a great start.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:42 AM
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5. Yes!
That is exactly it. None of his ideas are new per se, in a vacuum (and whose ideas ever have been?) but he is a brilliant synthesist, and that's what most people hailed in history as "brilliant" were REALLY good at!

Also, US politics have degraded to a point where actually making speeches "by an adult for adults" as Bill Maher said, seems radical and refreshing. I embrace it like someone in the desert for years finding clear, cool water!
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:46 AM
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6. here here -- well said!
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:49 AM
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8. it's such a shock to hear an Obama after listening to
Jr.s word salad over the years, I can maybe see why some people are still dizzy at the great contrast and call Barack empty worded in their confused state.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:50 AM
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9. Yes, and Obama can put
his thoughts into action.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:31 AM
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19. How
do we know that?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:00 AM
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10. Articulating what one thinks...
whether it be in writing or in speech is a gift. Add to that a person who has the most diverse life experience that I know of, and experience as a legislator, and a teacher of Constitutional Law on top of that, and what do you get? An empty suit of course!! Knowledge is Contagious!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:04 AM
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11. I do believe that you are 100% correct!
For the well educated to have flocked to him first means something to me. It means that those who aren't easily fooled were able to pick up on just that fact; Obama is a thinker, and he is making others think. That's exactly what that speech did for many.....

What choice are we going to make? that was the question Obama posed to us. Thinking about it is the only way to answer the question.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:08 AM
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12. Hear, hear. He's the whole package...brains, integrity, charisma, great communicator.
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:36 AM
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13. I agree 100%, Obama's got more brains than #### for brains Hillary.
In 2004 when Hillary was wondering whether or not to wait for 2008... ...betcha she didn't think it would be this hard.

Warning: This post contains sexist material which may be offensive to people who are afraid to think for themselves.

Gobama!
Go Dean's 50 State Strategy!
Go Grassroots!

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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:34 AM
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20. Sage,
is there a reason to post such, other than to foment a fight? Can't we keep this an informative discussion?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:11 AM
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14. Yes!! That is a much better way to put things...
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 02:13 AM by dkf
In my heart I believe he will be a GREAT President.

I can hardly wait!
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:22 AM
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15. I agree. He has vision and integrity and it comes out loud and clear.
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JustinL Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:58 AM
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16. absolutely
A major factor in my becoming an Obama supporter was reading The Audacity of Hope and being impressed by his nuanced and deeply thought-out views on important and difficult topics. His speech on Wednesday was a dramatic reaffirmation of that impression, and threw into the starkest contrast the difference between him and the current resident of the White House.
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Jensen Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:48 AM
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17. Bravo, that is exactly what he is the "Thinker" and after these 7 + years
of a non thinker you would think that the American people Dem's and Repug's could overwhelmingly come together for the World sake and ! What does it say about US???!!



Kudos to you for pointing it out!
:toast:
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:50 AM
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18. It has been to long since we have had a thinker in the whitehouse
It will be nice to have one again
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