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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:43 AM Original message |
Hillary Clinton's Released White House Records show she Lied about Opposing NAFTA |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. this has been re-hashed 1000000000000000 times. She was against it, but supporting hubbys admin |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. So Laura Bush can come out against her husband on policy... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Is that like saying you are against the Iraq war, but deep down you really support it? |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Or like voting for something, but hoping it doesn't pass? |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
37. or like saying "I voted for the war, but I will get you out of it" |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Couldn't she have just stayed out of it completely? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. BINGO! |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. She was secretly against it |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #12 |
26. LOL |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. Remember how the media used to joke that "Hillary was running things" back then? |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Kinda like Obama being against Wright's viewpoints, but supporting him just the same.... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Its like Hillary staying around even if Bill is cheating. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
35. Uh, because she was a *woman* and *constantly vilified* in the media back then? |
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Lucky 13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Wow. Now THAT's some busted logic. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #10 |
18. I know. The tortured logic to try to make Hillary look right on this is the kind of logic |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. She was against the TIMING - stop spinning her trepidation over TIMING of NAFTA into being against |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Right, as opposed to saying "Honey, I'll disagree so I'll work on XYZ instead, ok?" |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. Let's make this easy for you. What is Hillary's position on NAFTA? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. The crickets are evolving into mammals at this point... |
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mitchleary (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. That is just the tip of the iceberg. |
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gayron (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
9. So Obama has two positions on NAFTA remember! |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
11. I'm sure she's only saying she's against NAFTA to win the nomination |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
13. Is it fun to spread lies? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I remember that interview with Gergen. Turns out he was the MC at Hillary's proNAFTA meeting |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. but the other 'attendees' who contradict him are credible to you? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. As opposed to a paid political operative? Gee, let me think about that... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. who are they? Sight unseen, you accept their word. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Let me make it real easy for you, What is Hillary's position on NAFTA? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. let me rush around for an answer you know well |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I am defending the premise of my post, Hillary's many lies on NAFTA |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. So it makes losers feel big and powerful to spread lies. Got it. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Let me make it easy for you. What is Hillary's position on NAFTA? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Yeah, nothing, thats what I thought, no one is sure what her position is anymore she has changed it |
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AllexxisF1 (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
28. What else can you call it. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. the documents show she spoke at some meetings, no transcript, no account of what was discussed |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
31. Obama supports NAFTA and "free trade" too. Where's the contrast? nt |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Newspapers Reported Obama's Support of NAFTA, Desire To Pursue Similar Agreements (02/16/08) |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. So we have two cheap-labor "progressives" running for the nomination |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
34. Obama supported expanding Nafta in 12/2007 - they both suck when it comes to Nafta. |
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