Geraldine Ferraro comments on Obama's Tuesday speech; gives 2nd interview to The Daily Breeze.

[VolcanoJen]

Geraldine Ferraro resents being lumped in with the Rev. Wright in Obama speech

In the speech, Obama sought to place the inflammatory remarks of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright in a broader context, in part by placing them on a continuum with Ferraro's recent remark to the Daily Breeze that Obama is "lucky" to be black.

"To equate what I said with what this racist bigot has said from the pulpit is unbelievable," Ferraro said today. "He gave a very good speech on race relations, but he did not address the fact that this man is up there spewing hatred."

SNIP

"What this man is doing is he is spewing that stuff out to young people, and to younger people than Obama, and putting it in their heads that it's OK to say `Goddamn America' and it's OK to beat up on white people," she said. "You don't preach that from the pulpit."

Ferraro also said she could not understand why Obama had called out his own white grandmother for using racial stereotypes that had made him cringe.

"I could not believe that," she said. "That's my mother's generation."

[Abacus]

1. I wish Geraldine Ferraro was a DUer

just so I could put her on ignore.

[VolcanoJen]

2. Me, too!

It's quite the interview, if you can stomach it. :-)

[robbedvoter]

74. Yet, somehow, you started a thread about it - I still don't get it.

While "both BO and I are affirmative action candidates" is grating to me too, it still doesn't raise to Goddamn America, 9.11 was deserved and Israel is a dirty word. They were put side by side - and her condemned way MORE than Wright
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA3v7ON5XdA

[VolcanoJen]

129. Well, if Wright went on twenty different news programs and kept saying those words...

... you might have a point.

When that happens, let me know.

[2rth2pwr]

15. I get the feeling that most Obama followers would like to

do that to everyone who hasn't yet come to "The One".

[CreekDog]

70. no, i just want to ignore Ferraro

i haven't ignored anybody else.

[JVS]

18. I do too

to see her get banned

[Umbram]

42. Heh, exactly. (nt)

[Texas Hill Country]

48. OMG - she is a liberal standard bearer who has fought for minority rights for decades...

you people are fucking delusional.

[SoonerPride]

55. No, I'd say she has lost her mind.

Clearly, she is not thinking ratioally any longer.

Senile dementia is a sad sad wasting away of those with whom you formerly had faith in their thinking and judgment.

She is either senile or a racist.

You pick.

[JVS]

71. OMG she spouts racist crap and then more racist crap about being attacked for being white

[yardwork]

100. Ferraro's comments quoted above are anything but liberal.

It seems that Geraldine has a real problem with black people obtaining any kind of power.

Ironically, while some politicians are remembered for having recanted their racist views late in life (George Wallace, for instance), Geraldine Ferraro seems to be intent on replacing her liberal legacy with racist words.

[Cha]

108. She's a lyin' prune who has so much hate

that it's rotted out her heart..but with you as a Queen Of Mean supporter I can see why you'd give her a pass. I'd tell ya to go drink some more koolaid but you've had enough.

[Hepburn]

111. She is NO liberal to me....

...IMO, she is a joke...and an embarrassing one at that.

[elixir]

115. Hear, hear.

[Kokonoe]

118. But she said

-he did not address the fact that this man is up there spewing hatred."

It was the Obama's whole speech!

What she heard was her 70 years of denial.

[dionysus]

123. you've been consistently defending racist shit...

do you have a special set of sheets in your closet?

[Auntie Bush]

51. Typical Obama Ignorite suffering for Ignoritis.

[Abacus]

68. /ignore

I don't ignore people I disagree with, I ignore people who engage in personal attacks and don't contribute anything useful. So long, Auntie.

[Auntie Bush]

73. And you consider this post contributing something useful?

"I wish Geraldine Ferraro was a DUer just so I could put her on ignore."

Yeah...that was useful! Typical Obamite who can dish it out but can't take it. They take their little red balls and go homes. So long Abacus.

[Binka]

104. Jack Russells Are Nasty Little Dogs n/t

[Hepburn]

113. Yeah....

...but they are very bright...and if trained right, they can be controlled!

[dionysus]

124. LOLOLOLOL

Zing!

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[Auntie Bush]

132. (*&^%#%**(*&^%$$%%^^ %$#@

regretfully self deleted. But I think you know what I think of you without saying it.

[dionysus]

135. like i give a rats ass aunt bea...

:rofl:

[Auntie Bush]

131. Read this post and you'll take those words back!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=
243&topic_id=33034&mesg_id=33034

It isn't fair play to bring our dogs into this hell hole. They are innocent "Human beings." Damn you! You Obamites know how to hit below the belt.

[dionysus]

136. cats are better than dogs anyways

:evilgrin:

[Cha]

109. That one's been on

Ignore for so long I forgot the name until now.

[Whisp]

84. she IS here, in multiples. you should see my Ignore list.

btw, hide thread and ignore are Such blessings.

I started using them just a couple days ago and it's a miracle how the general dialogue has improved here since and how my blood pressure and use of expletives have been reduced.

I have read some awesome posts since that would have been missed if all that diarrhea was still around and flushing them down.

I would greatly recommend the idea.

[knixphan]

86. agreed!

[Cha]

112. I've been doing it for sometime

now..but we do have more time for the decent discussions..it's a veritable blessing.

[sudopod]

103. I'm suprised she didn't make a derogatory comment about hippies.

Good grief. O_o

[Cha]

107. Yeah, she's on Ignore anyway for me..

She's like so much duers with nothing to say but "hate" "hate" oh and "Lies" "Lies" more "Lies" and "Hatefilled Lies". Poor wretched prune.

[helderheid]

121. LOL!

:yourock:

[bicentennial_baby]

3. ...

:popcorn:

[VolcanoJen]

7. Heh

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[Cha]

110. Nothing like an old geraldine rage to

bring out the :popcorn: :beer:

[TwilightGardener]

4. LOL! Go away, Geraldine, you bitter old lady. Your 15 minutes is over, and

when Obama is President, you will weep and gnash your teeth that you tarnished your own legacy by doing Hillary's dirty Kamikaze work.

[Colobo]

5. That woman is a hater.

[knight_of_the_star]

9. Maybe because you lot hounded her for the last one

I would be bitter too if the partisans for a campaign tried to get me fired from my job because they didn't like what I said.

[sniffa]

56. Yeah, people who say bigoted things, don't like being called on it

It makes them bitter. Sometimes, so bitter that continue to spout more bigoted crap that just really magnifies the orignal bigoted crap they said.

[enid602]

78. Yeah, people who say bigoted things, don't like being called on it

Kinda applies to Wright more than Ferraro.

[sniffa]

81. Bizzaro World

[knight_of_the_star]

130. Only because it is aimed at Obama

But we can't have the savior challenged now can we.

[easy_b94]

10. Haters everywhere he goes..

[sniffa]

6. Jellybean loves the spotlight, huh?

Gotta get out there on the newswire again to bury this story once and for all.

[GoldieAZ49]

8. Dead on right!

It was a turn off as soon as I heard it.

He didn't answer the question of judgement, he played the race card.

[SoonerPride]

36. "Played the race card" Do you even know what that means?

Please. do tell.

[GoldieAZ49]

63. It means

diminishing the question at hand by making race the issue.

Race relations are a highly charged issue and diverts the attention from the question at hand.

Playing the race card is a way of changing the subject to dodge the question at hand.

[SoonerPride]

67. plonk

I'm done with you

[GoldieAZ49]

75. Plink

back in your bubble, enjoy it until it bursts

[DURHAM D]

Absolutely right.

Obama pretended he was taking the moral high ground and then acted like a gutter snipe with his shot at GF and his grandmother. The problem - some can't see it. Think it must be that generational thingie.

[Barack_America]

11. Good to know that she has a future with FoxNews.

I was worried about her, with her being fired and all. :eyes:

[phrigndumass]

12. I'm confused ... didn't Geraldine Ferraro realize that she's hurting the Clinton campaign with this

... rhetoric? Does Senator Clinton need to publicly apologize for this one, too?

[OhioBlue]

13. she is just repulsive!

I cannot believe she is taking up the talking points and running with the. I think the lady truly has issues with race. She says that Jeremiah Wright is "spewing hatred"? What an evil thing for her to say. She sucks.

[Kittycat]

14. Ah yes Geraldine. We can't speak the truth about the one's we love.

You're probably petrified that your family will come out and admit the shit you've had to say.

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[bicentennial_baby]

19. Unhelpful, at best

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[Bonobo]

17. Wow did she miss the point. He was not equating those things.

He was equating people that attack Ferraro and focus on race with those who attack Wright in their focus on race. Both to the ultimate distraction of real issues.

Is this actually an intelligence gap between Obama and Hil supporters?

Sometimes they seem so...obtuse.

[Barack_America]

23. What I wonder is are they truly obtuse or just willfully obtuse.

Unfortunately, that's the same thing I wonder about FoxNews disciples. It doesn't feel good to be wondering the same about fellow "Dems".

[rucky]

60. On purpose. n/t

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[JVS]

Go fuck yourself, Geraldine

[ebdarcy]

20. It went right over her head, didn't it?

[VolcanoJen]

21. Big time. And this part is fun...

:eyes:

It was Obama's campaign that drew the most attention to Ferraro's remark last week, and suggested they fit with an pattern of racial comments by Clinton surrogates.

"That's exactly what he did," Ferraro said. "It was their campaign that started this."

In sum, however, Ferraro said she thought the speech was "excellent," and said she understood why Obama could not renounce his association with Wright.

"I think they got as far as they could go politically," she said. "They're looking at their base. Their base is African-Americans. They're looking at that and they're trying to walk a very thin line. They don't want to offend the African-Americans, and this is the way he did it."

[eissa]

28. What a stupid thing to say

"They're looking at their base. Their base is African-Americans." You don't win all those states and that many voters on just one demographic. Wow, this woman just continues to spew rw rhetoric and makes an even bigger fool of herself. I'm embarrassed for her. Crawl back from whatever rock you were hiding under all these years and stay there already.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

33. Funny, my husband is sort of whitish tan the last time I looked

and he's supporting Obama. But then he's a Russian-French Canadian-Scotch/Irish-Cherokee American. :)

[americanstranger]

29. I'm surprised she doesn't call them 'the coloreds.'

That would seem more in keeping with her mindset.

- as

[Barack_America]

32. Oh jesus.

"the African-Americans"? Why doesn't she just come out and say, "those darkies who all think alike"?

:eyes:

Wow. She's really highlighting that everything Obama said about racism in this country is absolutely true.

When will she stop?

[ebdarcy]

40. She's just a sad person and she's never going to get it.

She should probably stop talking about race. She's not doing herself any favors.

[damonm]

133. Yup. The old "Mach 2 fly-by" as we called it in the Air Force.

[Inuca]

24. This is actually sad

I am sorry that she is dirtying her own personal legacy this way.

[CTyankee]

98. I think she thinks she is defending her legacy.

I truly feel that she is hurt more than anything. What she is saying is so strange that I can't believe she can rationally deal with the situation any more. If I were her friend I would try to persuade her that she needs to stop talking publicly and start talking privately with a therapist to work through her feelings. I think she needs grief counseling over her lost legacy.

[Noirceuil]

25. Obama threw Grandma under the bus...

then backed up and ran right over her. What kind of man humilates his grandmother on national TV for political gain?

[SoonerPride]

31. No, he didn't. And I heard his speech. He loves his grandmother.

You are pathetic.

[Bonobo]

34. Of all, yours is perhaps the most obviously stupid suggestion I have ever heard.

You may as well put a sign around your head that says:

"I am a freeper idiot"

[Noirceuil]

44. You don't think...

everyone in Kansas is going to think his Grandmother is a racist based on Obama telling the world that she is 1) scared of black men and 2) expresses ethnic stereotypes that make him cringe? I really feel sorry for her.

[SoonerPride]

50. AND HE SAID HE LOVED HER AND CARED FOR HER.

Even with her failings, even with Wright's failings, they are part of him.

He owned up to the contradictions and personal failings in regards to race on ALL SIDES. Black AND white.

This idea that he somehow hurt his white grandmother is fucking preposterous.

[Bonobo]

54. What a sensitive and beautiful soul you have... feeling sorry for the Grandma. Aww!

[immoderate]

76. Some people will take it that way, but that's the beauty of the risk Barack took.

He took the risk that most people will actually listen and comprehend what he was saying and not just react to the key words. It has long been the practice of politicians to take a word or phrase out of context and pounce on it. That's how they got "Kerry insulted the troops' intelligence," from a poorly phrased joke he told.

This is a breakthrough moment. Barack is taking the chance that his superb communications skills will actually penetrate to peoples thinking. Not everybody, even in Kansas, is going to ride the superficialities. He didn't throw his grandmother under the bus. He pointed out that even liberal and well meaning people can have remnants of soft racism that they may not be aware of. I hear this all too frequently, even from people who agree with me on most politics.

With some perseverance, he may even get people to a better understanding of Rev. Wright, who I largely agree with, and I'm white. It's an act of great courage and self confidence that Barack does not toss of Wright. I am not wholly sure that I like Obama's policies, but there is an intellect that rarely comes along in politics. He believes in the people.

--IMM

[high density]

106. There's nothing to feel sorry about

Having racist grandparents isn't a new phenomenon.

[sudopod]

105. "I am a freeper idiot"

Brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department.

:D

I hear ya, Bonobo. When did so many of our people start sounding like Ann Coulter. OMG HALP I'M BEING OPPRESSED BECAUSE I'M OLD, WHITE, AND WEALTHY.

Come witness the violence inherent in the system, indeed.

[fishwax]

77. no he didn't

What kind of person makes such a claim for political reasons?

[beachmom]

82. Ah, someone repeating Rich Lowry at National Review's words. Or perhaps the National Review

has readers who log onto DU.

[NorthernSpy]

88. I'd like to throw you under the bus.

Any bus.

[americanstranger]

26. She's a freakin' ignoramus.

Could she have missed the point of the speech any worse than she did?

- as

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

27. My paternal grandmother used racial stereotypes

and they always made me uncomfortable. She died when I was 17, and I didn't see her after I was 8, but I'd hope that if I needed to I would have explained to her why I found such remarks repugnant.

[Window]

30. Fuck you Gerry.

:thumbsdown:

[Coexist]

35. what a manipulative, lying, projecting jerk

[Upton]

37. Sounds like the typical Fox contributer

To think I once had respect for this woman, she's a disgrace to the Democratic party.

[alphafemale]

38. Just. Doesn't. Get. It. - Doesn't. Care. To. Try.

Ignorance and...What?





Across their forehead is written...What?

[tishaLA]

39. She's really a pathetic figure at this point

She sounds like a RW sound board: hit a button and hear a RW talking point.

[SoonerPride]

41. Her white robes haven't gotten back from the drycleaners

She's really a bad person.

[bunnies]

43. I wonder if she even listened to the whole speech.

Either she didn't or she just doesnt get it. Sad.

[NJmaverick]

45. Geraldine "all black men are lucky to run for president" Ferraro

Needs to STFU!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

46. Who gives a flying fuck what Geraldine Ferracist has to say anymore?!

[CitizenLeft]

47. "it's OK to beat up on white people"

uh... what?

Sometimes there's just nothing to say.

[olkaz]

49. Could someone tell this irrelevent senile malcontent to STFU?

Seriously, how many more times is she going to BEG to be relevent?

Mrs. Ferraro. Nobody cares. Go back to yelling at the kids for getting on your lawn.

[joeybee12]

52. If Obama had not gone after Geraldine, I bet Wright would not be an issue..

..BO played the race card one too many times when he attacked Geraldine and started alerting the media to her remarks and making a big deal out of an interview with a TINY following, brought the issue of race out into the open (where he didn't want it, unless he was preaching to an African-American audience in Missiippi and lying once more and claiming Hilary was behind the Kenyan garb, which a few weeks ago, said she wasn't)...he brought up the issue, so EVERYTHING was going to start getting looked at.

[SoonerPride]

57. HE brought up the issue? YOU FREAKING LIAR!!!

plonk and off to ignore land for you .

[joeybee12]

53. If Obama had not gone after Geraldine, I bet Wright would not be an issue..

..BO played the race card one too many times when he attacked Geraldine and started alerting the media to her remarks and making a big deal out of an interview with a TINY following, brought the issue of race out into the open (where he didn't want it, unless he was preaching to an African-American audience in Missiippi and lying once more and claiming Hilary was behind the Kenyan garb, which a few weeks ago, said she wasn't)...he brought up the issue, so EVERYTHING was going to start getting looked at.

[madfloridian]

58. She is getting nastier by the day. I used to respect her...

That is terrible.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

59. crikey, I once voted for that woman. me and three other people.

[axordil]

79. Don't feel bad

Think about how many of us tried to get Joe-mentum into the Executive Branch in 2000.

[NoodleyAppendage]

61. Geraldine Ferraro needs a good kick in the nuts. n/t

J

[Renaissance Man]

62. She's such a moron!

If he only gave the speech because he wanted to appeal to his base of "African-Americans," then what explains the number of White, Hispanic, Asian, and Native American voters that also support Senator Obama?

Also, as a note to DUers, saying "the Blacks" is offensive because it's damn near tantamount to insinuating that we are a disease, you know, like The Plague. Whether or not Senator Obama wins the nomination, she's practically guaranteeing that Hillary won't receive any substantial support from African-American voters, and it's sad that she couldn't accept his speech and actually think about it before she made these statements.

I am absolutely infuriated.

[leftstreet]

64. Did she ever release HER tax returns?

[blogslut]

65. The horse is dead, Gerri.

You can stop beating it now.

[Political Heretic]

66. The more I listen to her the more I suspect she genuinely has a race problem

[azmouse]

69. It would be better for her to remain silent and have us think

she is stupid, bitter, and racist than for her to open her mouth and remove all doubt.

[Ganja Ninja]

72. Bite me Geraldine.

[beachmom]

80. Oh dear lord. She is beyond help. I'll never view her the same way after these last few weeks. nt

[Debi]

83. She's just adding fuel to the fire and we are all taking the bait

race race race is on the top of the menu again.

Her outbursts are planned and the knee-jerk responses are expected.

[Alter Ego]

85. Screw Geraldine Ferraro.

I notice that the media gave Clinton a pass on her.

[Whisp]

87. what an asshole scumbag, that one. Shame on Her. nt

[JackORoses]

89. somebody needs to muzzle that old bag!

[bvar22]

90. Ugly.

soul deep ugly.

[knixphan]

91. This woman is delusional.

"Called out his grandmother...that's my mother's generation."

Huh? Is that some kind of 'Old-people-are-allowed-to-be-bigots' defense?

Nuts.

And proof that there can be democratic bigots.

[rodeodance]

92. Spot on Ferraro. Way to go. She will not be bullied. Good for her.

[Bonobo]

93. As if unadulterated obstinacy is a good attribute.

[rodeodance]

97. She will not be bullied.

[OzarkDem]

94. Good for her, she's correct

From the linked article:

"To equate what I said with what this racist bigot has said from the pulpit is unbelievable," Ferraro said today. "He (Obama) gave a very good speech on race relations, but he did not address the fact that this man is up there spewing hatred."


Obama has tried to make political hay out of distorting Ferraro's remarks. He further compounds his dishonesty by trying to lump her in with the bigoted remarks made by Rev. Wright, something even Obama knows isn't true. I would challenge Obama or his supporters to find anything remotely hateful in Ferraro's remarks. You can't. And lumping his grandmother in with Wright is even more disturbing, in ways too numerous to count.

Obama's performance on this issue has shown us time and again that he prefers to gain power and advantage by using destructive "divide and conquer" tactics - very unsettling for a presidential candidate. He can't discuss issues, he can't run on experience - he can only foment hatred among groups of voters and set them against each other, while spouting empty rhetoric.

His tactics are beginning to catch up with him, as they do with any person who uses them, be it Newt Gingrich, Ronald Reagan or Pat Robertson. They will be his undoing.

[SeaLyons]

95. Good for you Geraldine....

Stand strong. Racist you are NOT!!!

[qanda]

96. I thought he used part of the speech to defend her

I guess I interpreted it wrong. Oh well.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

99. I really want to see Gloria Steinem respond to this.

I want to know what she thinks of Ferraro's comments and if she agrees with them.

[Nia Zuri]

101. Bet she's used the n-word once or twice in her life. And I bet she heard it plenty

around the dinner table...

[mrreowwr_kittty]

127. You know it.

And according to Ferraro-logic, a 71 year old black man who expresses anger is a bigot while old white women who have bigotted views are sacrosanct.

[high density]

102. She and Joe Scarborough seem to have a similar level of cognitive ability

Both are quite low in this regard.

[book_worm]

114. who care's what that harpie thinks.

[Terran]

116. "spewing hatred"?

Ok, I've totally had it with her. What a jerk.

[noiretextatique]

117. ferraro sounds very defensive and disjointed

though i agree with her first comments. obama absolutely benefits from being biracial, and it is most definitely a part of his appeal.

[kdpeters]

119. There's no fool like an old fool.

[Hottest Housewife]

120. Ferraro=Christ Killer

Remember, Geraldine Ferraro is one of those evil Italians who killed Black Jesus.

At least according to the right Rev. Wright...(Italians=Romans=Christ-Killer)

And Barry's supporters say Wright isn't racist..

Obama really has a thing against white women.

[ulysses]

134. I've read things on DU that were stupid enough to make my soul cringe,

but I believe your post has out-stupided them all. Nice going.

[Hottest Housewife]

140. My soul cringes at "US of KKK A"

And the rest of Wright's insane rants.

Wright preached that Romans=Italians=Killers-of-the-Black-Christ Bullshit in one of his illustrious Sermons.

How is that any different then the Aryan Nation's Jew=Killers-of-the-White-Christ Bullshit?

Barry sat of his own free will, listening to racist garbage for 20 years. Michelle grew up in it. She knows nothing else.

No wonder Barry went after Geraldine full force. Not only is she a racist, like his Grandmama: but she's also a Black-Christ-Killer

[ulysses]

141. "Barry"?

That's interesting. Why do you refer to him as "Barry"?

[Forkboy]

142. .....

[onenote]

122. I hate to say it, but Gerry seems on the road to Zell Miller-dom

[indimuse]

125. "White"Larry...

Ferraro's initial comment was correct. What she was saying is...IF a 43 year old "White" Larry were Obama , in his first year as US Senator, from the DIRTY politics of Chicago were the candidate in this primary..."White" Larry would have never won all the Black votes Obama has. There would be about ZERO hype surrounding "White"Larry...that I have to agree with..and THAT is NOT racist. just fact.

[DeadElephant_ORG]

126. AGE-ISM: he is spewing that stuff out to young people, and to younger people than Obama, and putting

"...he is spewing that stuff out to young people, and to younger people than Obama, and putting it in their heads that it's OK..."

I'm not young. And Obama supporters are no less capable of coming to their own independent moral and political judgments as Ms. Ferraro is.

HOW FUCKING INSULTING CAN YOU GET?

[depakid]

128. She just doesn't know when shut her big mouth, does she?

I guess being in the limelight is more important to her than not sounding juvenile and petty.

[JI7]

137. she just comes off as not really smart

[moondust]

138. I want my vote back.

If I had known anything about Geraldine I wouldn't have voted for a ticket with her on it. I suspect that she desperately wants to be able to tell the world that SHE is the one who blazed the trail to the Oval Office for women. It's all about her. :eyes:

[Owl]

144. Same here.

[Leopolds Ghost]

139. Will the MSM pick up on this story? KO? Anyone? Hello?????

I know the job of the teleprompter writers is to move the Overton window rightwards
(not that anyone on DU bothers to care who Overton was) but this is ridiculous.

Remins me of the black pastor who came out and said, father like:

"Obama must now renounce any religious belief that is hostile to the
interests of this great nation."

[mattclearing]

143. She just doesn't get it. n/t

[rodeodance]

145. I see why an O.folk would start this OP--just an opportunity to moralize

yourselves into a little orgy.

vile posts.