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busymom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:16 PM
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Don't fret, Obama supporters
The MSM has moved on to the fact that Clinton was in the white house during some of the Lewinsky encounters.

Just in time for Easter....see...Obama is going to get a Happy Easter after all.

:eyes:
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:17 PM
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1. I think that sucks too.
And I'm an Obama supporter. The MSM just plain sucks.
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busymom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:18 PM
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4. The MSM is just outrageous.
I like Obama and Clinton...just give them both to me and lets move on. Why did I even turn on msnbc? I'm sick of listening to them both be torn down.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:23 PM
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20. The Leswinsky episode has always helped Clinton, especially among women.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:27 PM
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23. True--this won't damage her. The damaging stuff is what Cryingshame is talking about below.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:22 PM
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15. they just aren't up to the task
But then, isn't this the same MSM that we spotted wearing pom poms and a cheerleading outfit just before we invaded Iraq.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:25 PM
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21. I agree on this -
MSM really needs to get out of the trainwreck business.

Like a bunch of junior high school kids, gawking at a bra.

shit. :puke:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:18 PM
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2. That's just sad. Who the fuck cares?
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:18 PM
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3. I don't get how that is supposed to hurt Clinton
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:19 PM
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5. I'd rather they cover how the Clintons sold pardons & traded them for votes in Hillary's senate run
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:20 PM
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9. Yep--that's where the real beef is.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:19 PM
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6. No, actually I'd rather they make her answer for belonging to a Fascist Power Cult
for decades.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:19 PM
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7. Meanwhile Teflon John's every mistake gets ignored by the MSM.
I'm tired of ALL negative stories about Dems. It's got to stop.
We desperately need a Dem as President to set things right again in this country.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:20 PM
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8. It's bullshit.
I wish the media would spend time over McCain's stupid Iran/Iraq flap, but they won't. This is really getting old. He gets a free pass, while the Democrats are eaten alive.
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busymom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:21 PM
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13. We're doing it to ourselves though...
look at the content of GD: P for example. There isn't debating going on about the candidates...there are blatant attempts to discredit the other candidates on a deep, personal level. The media is just reflecting that. We should be as pissed at each other here as we are at the msm.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:28 PM
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25. The difference is we on DU don't get to influence millions of potential voters.
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 12:29 PM by Window
But I agree, this infighting needs to stop. We need to focus on beating McCain, not each other.
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busymom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:32 PM
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30. I think you're wrong..
This is a big forum...along with other big political forums....I think it is very easy for the msm to look at places like this, identify hot button issues and then carry them into their reports. We do more than hurt DU members here...we create something that gets reflected back at a lot more people.

And...people that leave here with set opinions also end up spewing those views to others....

We should actually consider our conversations here much more carefully as a responsibility and not a fun game.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:20 PM
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10. maybe someday they'll go into depth on how Bill is pimping himself out & using his WH tenure
to enrich himself and help out scummy foreign nationals.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:21 PM
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11. It could have been worse for Clinton
Instead of taking the sleezy path about being in the WH while Bill enjoyed cigars the MSM could (SHOULD) have been talking about Hillary's meetings to help get NAFTA passed and how that showed she wasnt telling the truth in Ohio.

So be happy.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:21 PM
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12. As an ardent Obama supporter, this is disgraceful of them. We, or
the Clintons for that matter, just don't want or need this being raked over the coals again. Bill paid his dues for this, it just soooo over.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:22 PM
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14. You think they'll move to her earmarks? She LOVES that war machine pork
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:22 PM
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16. Clinton and Obama supporters both need to be on the MSM's case.
Right now they're swiftboating Obama. Tomorrow, they're likely to swiftboat Hillary. Their real agenda is to make a Jerry Springer spectacle out of the race to boost their ratings, then get McCain elected.

I'll make no bones about my support for Obama, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let lying or smearing of either Obama or Clinton go unchallenged.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:28 PM
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24. DING DING DING We have a winner!!!
What you said.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:31 PM
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28. You betcha
No Democrats can sit silent while the MSM slanders other Democrats--and I don't care if it's Obama's pastor or Clinton's husband's little fling.

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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:03 PM
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37. THANK YOU!
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 01:03 PM by democrattotheend
I've been saying that for a while, but all I get are repeats of right wing talking points about Obama's "judgment" because of crap his pastor said when he wasn't even there. If we want to win in November we all need to stand up against all of these swiftboat attacks on both of our candidates.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:22 PM
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17. I'm an Obama supporter and I just want the media to deal with the REAL fucking issues. Period. eom.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:22 PM
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18. The Clintons want the focus on Lewinsky for the pity vote. The tax returns, the donor list is
what they don't want the focus on.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:23 PM
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19. how you can tell when it's all about HATE from obama and his
worshippers, they bring up Monica.

I cringe each time I hear the Republican lie, "We want to face Hillary in November." Why else would Rush, Will, Kristol, Hannity, Dowd, etc praise a black guy?

Do you think they're sincere in their praise for Obama? Do you think the GOP suddenly became non-racist?

Why does the obama followers not see the obvious?

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:26 PM
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22. So Many Women, Over So Many Years
and yet she stayed.

Oh Hillary, why didn't you denounce & reject him years ago, why didn't you throw him under the bus?
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:39 PM
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31. Maybe they had an open relationship? n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:29 PM
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26. I hate the corporate media.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:29 PM
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27. What in the hell is the DNC doing?
I'm sorry but I'm not a Hillary supporter and have come to dislike the woman quite a bit, however I'm sick of the media trying to take down our Dem candidates. This is blatant and getting out of hand. Who in the hell cares where she was during the Lewinsky mess? Why is that important to me and anyone else for that matter? Just disgusting what the media is up to. Meanwhile McCain cannot even remember what the hell is going on in Iraq.

I may be an Obama supporter but I am not a Republican. Please don't tell me not to worry about this because as a liberal, as a Democrat I will. It is when folks start losing all sense of objectivity is when it starts to get ugly. I have not lost my objectivity, not yet at least.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:49 PM
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32. The DNC cannot take sides until a nominee is picked.
And heaven knows they have enough problems of their own.

:headbang:
rocknation
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ebdarcy Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:32 PM
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29. The MSM is horrible. Our candidates deserve better. n/t
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:50 PM
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33. If only Eliot Spitzer hadn't stepped down-
then we'd still be getting details about that.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:50 PM
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34. And all Ive seen them do regarding Gramps McSame
is get a little tickled that he 'lapsed in judgement' this week in Iraq. Silly ol McCain, aint he a stinker?

:puke:
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youknowmenotdlc Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:54 PM
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35. Was she piggybanking those visits with NAFTA lobbying?
Just askn.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:01 PM
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36. Not getting excited. This is trash and irrelevant, just like the Wright "scandal"
Who the hell cares? What the hell does this have to do with Hillary's ability to lead? What the hell does it matter what Obama's pastor said? I am so sick to death of the media sensationalizing this kind of CRAP! As Democrats who want to win in November, we should all be out there refuting this crap just like we should all be standing up for Obama against this right wing character assassination.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:04 PM
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38. I disagree with this just as much as I do them plastering Wright all over the place
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 01:05 PM by ericgtr
Yes, I am an Obama suppoter but think these things that happened eons ago have nothing to do with politics and the big picture. Let's stick with debating the issues for a change and get off of this shit.

Edit: typo
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:06 PM
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39. BAH!!
This is a cheap shot at HRC and doesn't prove anything except that Bill was an even bigger asshole than we thought he was.

The real issues in those papers are related to NAFTA and her VAST foreign policy experience which has no proof to back it, but notice the silence from the MSM on that.
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