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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:03 PM
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Does anyone else think McCain might pick Lieberman as running mate?
n/t
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:05 PM
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1. looking very likely... that means virtually all independants are gone. bad 4 obama
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:12 PM
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13. I think it is a very real possibility. n/t
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:19 PM
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18. No. Independents will realize how boring and incompetent
Lieberman is. He will be as much of a drag on the ticket as he was for Gore. He will be in the cabinent though. The senate is a dead end for him.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:29 PM
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25. Independents don't like Lieberman!

And two old white men just won't cut it.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:01 PM
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44. If Independents didn't like Lieberman he wouldn't be in the Senate right now.
There are not that many Republicans in Connecticut.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:02 PM
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45. BINGO.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:32 PM
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50. Unfortunately, a lot of goddamned stupid Democrats in Connecticut
voted for Judas Lieberman.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:27 PM
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59. Possibly because of the wonderful endorsement that Bill Clinton gave him in the primary
Seriously - it was stronger and did a better job spelling out his accomplishments than the speeches he gave for Gore or Kerry. He also did Robo calls. Their primary was in August - hard to think it had no affect in November.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:40 PM
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53. Moderate dems went for him, along with repugs

Enough to get him elected. Trust me, republicans didn't want Ned Lamont in the Senate.
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CatsDogsBabies Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:01 PM
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57. I agree
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 04:02 PM by CatsDogsBabies
after all the excitement with Obama and Clinton, no one will go for two old white men. UNLESS, they want only a 4 year term, so all this excitement can resume again in 2012.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:50 PM
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36. Lieberman's not an Independent
Don't get your hopes up
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:05 PM
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2. Hadn't thought of it but now that you mention it..... nt
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:07 PM
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4. it seems like Joe is following around McCain everywhere he goes. n/t
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:06 PM
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3. No, he won't pick Lieberman as VP
McCain needs to unite the Republican Party. He'll pick a conservative Republican for VP.

Lieberman would most likely be offered a cabinet post, say Sec. of Defense?
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:09 PM
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6. don't be so sure
the republican party has a way of uniting itself, regardless of the circumstances. blind sheep follow.

it could be an attempt to go after the middle. however I think they'd worry about mccain getting sick or the second term and creating president joe. so probably not but i wouldn't be surprised.

either way, expect to see Joe campaigning for McCain.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:48 PM
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34. McCain is moving to the right... and his pick of Lieberman will keep the middle.
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 02:49 PM by Texas Hill Country
it is a perfect move... McCain will have the best of both worlds.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:07 PM
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5. He needs Hukkkabee. Oh, God. I can't even believe that's possible
in this country but it is.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:10 PM
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7. I don't think they need it
I believe the repubniks will all get together behind any candidates, no matter who they are. they're already supporting mccain, when just weeks ago he was the devil incarnate to them.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:11 PM
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10. McCain's support has gone up because we don't have a candidate
yet.

It's ours to lose.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:10 PM
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8. I posted the other day on the idea of Lieberman in a McCain cabinet position.
It would not surprise me at all.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:12 PM
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12. That I could see happening
far more than Holy Joe running as VP.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:11 PM
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9. If he did, he'd lose his base
I don't think the average Republican would want Lieberman, who they would see as too liberal (and possibly too Jewish--I still feel that the Republican base is filled with bigoted people). Also I would think they would want a younger person for VP, just in case McCain didn't make it through his term. Lieberman is too close in age to McCain.
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:11 PM
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11. Here's a chilling thought: He picks Cheney ...and
the election is rigged.

:scared:
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:31 PM
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26. Or Jeb Bush

That's who I think he'll pick. Scary.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:51 PM
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37. Kindasleezy Rice
gets MY vote
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Lobster Martini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:12 PM
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14. In my nightmares, I see a McCain/Jeb Bush ticket--then I wake up and vomit n/t
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:34 PM
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29. actually, having a bush on the ticket would be wonderful for us.
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Lobster Martini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:39 PM
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32. Oh, it would improve our chances...I just don't want to think about it ..n/t
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:14 PM
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15. No. Everyone hates Lieberman. The left and the right. Not a good choice for him.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:22 PM
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19. na, the right likes Lieberman (and Zell Miller) n/.t
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:14 PM
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16. He would be stupid to.
What would they be called? The Geritol team? Can you imagine any presidential ticket in recent times putting more people to sleep than this one would?

McCain if he is smart will pick a younger and more energetic looking candidate to make people feel comfortable about voting for him (in case something happens to him).

I think it IS likely he will name Lieberman to a cabinet post.

Of course, if he DID pick Lieberman as running mate that would be great for us, for reasons I mention above.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:18 PM
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17. Mcain's got Joementum!
That would be fabulous. Lieberman sure was the kiss of death for Gore.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:23 PM
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20. I think Lieberman is pushing hard for it, being McCain's right-hand man & all....
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 02:24 PM by BlooInBloo
.... God bless the worthless fuckwit electorate from the great state of Connecticut.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:23 PM
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21. I expect he will need someone to hold his hand crossing the road?
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:23 PM
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22. No. He needs a Fundie Panderer.
Or he can forget the repiggy zealot vote.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:25 PM
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23. Yeah, that or....
...those two little white-haired assholes have been joined at the hip.

See one, see the other one ~~ Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:27 PM
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24. I doubt the Passion of the Christ crowd
is going to embrace Joementum, no matter how much of a warmonger he is.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:32 PM
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27. The smart money would be on a younger conservative
Loserman is not very inspirational. He won't attract Dems because they can't stand him. And he's almost as old as McCain.

The GOP has a problem in bringing up young up-and-comers. They've been trotting out the same faces for decades. Hell, the Bush administration had people who worked for Nixon! The GOP needs higher-profile fresh meat who can carry the party onward. The highest profile younger guy they have now is Huckabee, for cryin' out loud! Expect a lot of pressure to go for youth to balance the ticket, ala Dan Quayle (but not as stupid), and to inject some new blood.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:33 PM
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28. not in a million trillion years.
A lot of the repubs at their convention are going to be holding their noses when McCain gets nominated. The very notion that if McCain was elected, someone with a pro-choice record (100 percent from NARAL in 2007) would be a heartbeat away from the presidency would cause the repub faithful to tear the convention center to shreds. You can bet your life that Lieberman isn't going to be the repub vp nominee. He's a moral midget on the war, but his record on a number of issues is anathema to the repubs.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:36 PM
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30. Sec. Defense I bet.. n/t
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Xero1 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:38 PM
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31. Never
Republicans won't vote for a Mormon, I doubt they would vote for a Jew.
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Traction311 Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:45 PM
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33. The Repubs aren't complete and utter idiots
Bush is, but the party itself is intelligently evil (like Cheney). Republican voters, especially Freepers, don't like McLame very much as it is. In order to vote for him, they need a conservative VP. Do you honestly think Republicans would accept a pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-gun-control Jew who was a Democrat up until two years ago as his VP? They are not to stupid to know that they would lose 45+ states. It would make a third party right-wing run inevitable.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:49 PM
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35. Definitely
The ideal match really.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:53 PM
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38. No, but probably Sec State or Sec Defense
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:53 PM
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39. nah, he's too deep in love with this family......
Probably will be Jeb.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwmpyrbGcD8

McBushed!!!!!

**********************************
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:53 PM
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40. Obama's mentor? I kind of doubt it, he'll pick someone that can get him the
conservative voters that don't care for McCain, I think. Maybe Romney, even.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:54 PM
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41. I think he'll choose Romney. Out of all the republican
candidates, Romney, IMO, is the worst and by far the most irritating. Therefore, McCain will definitely choose him so I'll be forced to see his stupid face for months.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:58 PM
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42. Not if Hillary Gets there first...
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:28 PM
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60. Oy,.... the thought of it just makes me naseaus
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:59 PM
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43. yeah, he needs someone around to keep him from spreading lies that are too obvious n/t
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:08 PM
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46. McCain/Lieberman is a ghastly, but real possibility.
McCain picking Lieberman as VP would make it so much easier for the sexist and the racist segments of the Democratic Party to vote for a Republican.

I wish it weren't true, but there is a hefty bunch of registered Democrats who are not as high minded as we would like to assume.

Sinistrous
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:24 PM
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48. actually, its a real impossibility
You don't have to know that much about the repub base to know that while they can stomach (barely) McCain, there is not the slightest chance - none, nada, zero - that they would accept someone with a pro-choice record as the vp nominee, especially given McCain's age. Lieberman is a moral midget when it comes to the war and foreign policy matters, but he also has a 100 percent rating from NARAL. That, by itself (and disregarding his vote against the flag desecration amendment and other votes that are anathema to the rw) would disqualify him.

Whenever I see someone suggest that a McCain/Lieberman ticket is a possibility, I immediately know that the person posting isn't terribly familiar with political reality.
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:36 PM
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52. The salient political reality is that
McCain already has the nomination wrapped up. His concern at the moment is getting elected. Who the hell are the troglodytes going to vote for? That bunch is his no matter what: they have no other choice!

Lieberman would go a long way toward attracting some number of disaffected Democrats.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:55 PM
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55. the salient political reality is that it takes a vote of the convention to approve the vp nomination
Just because McCain says he wants so and so as his VP nominee doesn't mean he'll get what he wants. Sure, he has a majority of the delegates and if all of the delegates that are loyal to him went along with what he wants, he could get Dennis Kucinich nominated as his running mate. But the fact is that there would be blood in the streets if he tried to name someone who was anathema to the anti-abortion crowd, which I'm fairly certain makes up well over half of the repub convention delegates. Many of his own supporters would refuse to go along and it is likely Lieberman wouldn't get a majority. If it looked like Lieberman was being rammed down their throats, i guarantee there would be a massive walk out.

But none of that will happen because McCain is not a suicidal idiot when it comes to politics. He's not about to pick a fight that he can't win or that he can only win at such a large cost that it torpedos any chance he has of winning because the number of conservatives -- already unenthusiastic about McCain -- that would stay home would easily outnumber the "disaffected" Democrats that lieberman would attract.
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:11 PM
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58. Of course there are single issue rebublicans,
but the equation at issue is whether more anti-abortion or ant-whatever republicans would stay home and indirectly contribute to the election of a Democrat than disaffected semi-Democrats would cross over and vote for someone they could at least stomach.

I believe the outcome of the analysis of that equation will be interesting.

Sinistrous

P.S You come across like a pompous, patronizing a$$hole.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:28 PM
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62. The issue is that the hard core repubs who are delegates won't stand for a pro-choice nominee
Sorry if that -- and my pointing out the reality of it -- offends you. This is a political board and politics has sharp elbows.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:25 PM
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49. The Republicans LOVE Lieberman, dont know why, but he has HIGH ratings w/ Repubs.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:59 PM
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Link?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:19 PM
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47. He's said no
His staff says no.

But I agree - it's hard to let go of the suspicion. Who knows? Not like his word is in the least trustworthy...
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vinylsolution Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:34 PM
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51. Lieberman for VP?
Unlikely, given that he ran as a Dem spoiler for Gore in 2000. Notice how Newt Gingrich and Jeb Bush are being carefully kept out of the public eye right now. I suspect one of them will be getting the nod. Both terrifying prospects, but good to run against if the Dems actually want to win. But do they??

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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:42 PM
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54. Will - not -happen.
They will cater to either the religious nuts or the fiscal conservatives with his VP.

Lieberman will be gone forever once McCain loses, and we can dance in the streets to be free of him.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:59 PM
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56. No, the conservative base is already too leary of McCain, and
other than foreign policy, he is quite liberal.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:31 PM
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61. I don't buy that "conservatives don't like McCain" story
i think that's all just spin, to get independents to think McCain is not a rightwinger.

the conservatives and rightwingers will line up to vote for McCain... and they don't care who the VP is either. just watch.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:37 PM
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63. I'll wager $25 donation to DU that Lieberman isn't the VP choice
My father in law is a rushbot (and an anti-abortion Catholic) who backed Romney, thinks Huckabee is a RINO and has made it quite clear in our discussions that he'll vote for McCain onlyh if McCain picks a VP candidate that is more conservative than McCain and will simply stay home if he doesn't.

Don't underestimate the fervor of the repub base. Folks like Gary Bauer and rush etc would go nuts if they were asked to support someone who has a 100 percent rating from NARAL and, among other things, voted against the flag desecration amendment and against drilling in ANWR. They really will take down the ship before they let that happen.
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