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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:42 PM
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Clinton Has Lost. The DNC should tell her to stand aside. She's destroying the party.
She wants to win the nomination of the Democratic party she is willing to destroy it. That is her King Solomon's test. She's failed it. And that is just one of many reasons why she does not deserve to be the nominee. She has done serious, perhaps irreperable, damage to the party and to it's chances to win the general election this coming November. The DNC, being King Solomon in this analogy, needs to step in and save the party from her clutches. They need to administer justice.

Allow the remaining good states who have followed the rules of the party to have their voices heard. There is goodness in that. And if the necessary 67% of those voices raise up in a miraculous choir to resurect her, then so be it. But her win-at-all-costs tactics must be ended. Her destructive actions put to an end. The DNC has the power to end her destructive ways. They need to act now.
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:43 PM
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1. Ridiculous.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:45 PM
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5. Heh, Hillary is the only candidate we have that can WIN the WH!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:46 PM
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8. you bet. BO 'so called' electability is a myth!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:54 PM
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21. i read a lot of posts today. Obamafans are outright saying "our nominee" Hope you are not one of
them.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:00 PM
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52.  As things look worse for Obama, the cult's delusions get stronger
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 07:16 PM by barb162
Maybe they're starting a third party.
LOL
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:26 PM
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39. she will never be President. you have wasted your energy on her failed attempt.
cut your losses and save the few shreds of dignity that you have left.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:49 PM
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50. Have you heard a date yet when Obama will be withdrawing from the race?
Pollsters are saying he's dropping like a proverbial "God Damn American" rock in the polls!

They say, watch for results next week.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:14 PM
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58. Good God, you people are getting worse and worse.
Polls show no change, or even improvement for Obama. Everybody, other than the insanest of the Clinton shills or the racist Republicans, agree that Obama made a great speech. And yet, you people are hitting new highs of claiming exactly the opposite of reality, then saying that that's what the other side is doing. It's the Clinton campaign mantra all the way.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:19 AM
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65. do you want to make a bet on the Nominee? a DU Donation?
I bet you $100 dollars Hillary never becomes President.

Do you have enough faith in Hillbilly to risk cash?
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:11 PM
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54. Don't you mean HE?
Those polls aren't looking good for him, save your dignity, blah, blah, blah.
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Splinter Cell Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:54 PM
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63. What are you people on?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:59 PM
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64. funny, I know of so many people who say if she is the noninee they are voting for McCain. n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:48 PM
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11. op gives us a good laugh every now and then
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:43 PM
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60. 13,000 seats sold out in under an hour for Obama's rally tomorrow
...with thousands more waiting in line for a ticket.

Funny (as in twisted irony) how the Clinton's have the audacity to call Obama's campaign a fairy tale, when clearly his campaign and grassroots support is rooted in reality. It is the Clinton campaign that depends upon slight of hand--smoke & mirrors--and other two-bit illusionists tricks to even pull off the appearance that she is a legitimate candidate at this point.

Clinton needs more than David Copperfield if she is going to pretend that her candidacy is valid. In the meanwhile, she is destroying the Democratic presumptive nominee in her quest for the Holy Grail.

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:44 PM
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2. How?
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:44 PM
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3. More lame PropObamaganda
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:45 PM
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6. good one jlake. ha ha
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:52 PM
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17. you should know about agitprop
it's what you are.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:55 PM
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23. Meh, once in a while... but it's not "what I am"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:45 PM
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4. GAWD--we have listened to their slime for months . Here you go again!
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:46 PM
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7. Isn't that the DLC mission? n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:47 PM
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9. Hey berni--you have said this for months now. Your crystal ball has a big crack
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:54 PM
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20. so does your's, dearie. and you exhibit how full of shit your crystal
ball is right in this thread. Irony isn't dead. It lives with every lame post you make.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:56 PM
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26. thanks cali. but i am not predicting anything. bye
. so does your's, dearie. and you exhibit how full of shit your crystal

ball is right in this thread. Irony isn't dead. It lives with every lame post you make.
"the best lack all conviction, while the worst are filled with passionate intensity"
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:48 PM
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10. Obama in CLEAR LEAD
Even with Wright flack, Obama did not drop in National Polls

He's got more states

He's ahead nearly a million popular votes

He has the delegate lead

Without engineering a lead with the super delegates she cannot win.

This inflammatory smear campaign even on DU is worsened by Racist Republican trolls posing as Clinton Supporters.

The Party will have ONLY TEN WEEKS BETWEEN THE CONVENTION AND GENERAL ELECTION TO CAMPAIGN

IT IS TIME FOR CLINTON TO STEP DOWN

Of course, she won't... but it IS past time.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:49 PM
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13. he has a clear lead to the 'has been" planet
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:14 PM
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55. What the heck are you drinking? He's dropping in the national polls.
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rcsl1998 Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:49 PM
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12. It's Far From Over - Why Are You So Afraid Of Letting The People Vote?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:50 PM
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14. BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID!!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:52 PM
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16. I was wondering if Hillary supporters could read. Apparently they can't because I said...
"let the remaining good states have their voices heard."

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:53 PM
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19. POOOOOOOffffffff
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:54 PM
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22. I can always count on rodeodance to keep kicking my threads. Thanks rodeo.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:57 PM
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28. you bet. somedays i am into vile crap. but i have had enough crap now. bye
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 05:58 PM by rodeodance
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:17 PM
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34. Lol!
:D

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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:55 PM
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24. Because its actually not far from over.
There are 10 states left. MI and FL are out. The lead is insurmountable in PDs and popular vote.

Saying it is 'far from over' is 'far from reality'.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:57 PM
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29. excellent question
and one I keep asking over and over and over but can never seem to get an answer to.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:21 PM
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35. Actually it was a stupid question if you read my post. I said let all the remaining states vote.
Just to have the DNC put a stop to Clinton's destructive tactics.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:22 PM
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36. well, that's mighty big of you.
Wow. You are quite the shining example for democracy!
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:53 PM
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18. Obama Led by double digits in National Polls
Until the Clinton campaign went below the belt with slimey tactics.

Obama is STILL holding his own, but the smear campaign must stop.

Myth? Obama clearly polled higher than Clinton against McCain throughout the WHOLE CAMPAIGN and STILL DOES.

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VADem11 Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:56 PM
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25. Very true
Obama still wins even if Michigan and Florida are counted and with Obama getting no delegates from MI. Th longer she stays in, the worse it is for the party.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:56 PM
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27. But it's her turn
I'm sick of this sexist bullshit. Would people be saying this if Joe Liebermann or Zell Miller were destroying the party?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:05 PM
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30. She may be all we have left before long berni
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:06 PM
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31. Ain't that the truth.
Berni you are fearless. :thumbsup:
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:14 PM
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32. She screwed up Big-Time
using Race-Baiting to Bulldoze another Candidate. Nobody will ever ever forget this one!

Throw in the towel Hillary!

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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:15 PM
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33. K&R
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:25 PM
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37. She wants the nomination of the party she destroyed?
Hahahaha - there won't be a party if she is nominated!!

"It's my party, and I'll cry if I want to,
Cry if I want to, cry if I want to,
You would cry too, if you were me and you were losing the nomination to Obama"
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:28 PM
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40. You Might Be Crying On November Fifth
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:35 PM
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46. Not me, man.
I'm going to vote for the only real Democrat left running in the race.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:36 PM
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48. I Was Referring To The Results
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:36 PM
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47. Maybe not.


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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:26 PM
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38. win at all costs is bad now?
remember when we begged al gore and john Kerry to fight like that? How quickly we all forget the past. This is a ridiculous meme, you get that, right? Of all the reasons people have to dislike Hillary Clinton, the idea that she is willing to pull out all the stops to win shouldn't be one of them.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:30 PM
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41. Unless You Credit HRC With Inventing The Good Reverend Obama's Wounds Are Self Inflicted
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:31 PM
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42. Yes. Leave the right wing tactics to the pukes.
And since both Gore and Kerry won anyway, and Gore even fought the election results to no avail, such tactics wouldn't have helped them.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:17 PM
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57. then get used to more republicans in office
losing with dignity is just that, losing. And I don't remember going to either gore's or Kerry's inaguration, seems like they both, well, lost. I will guess you are new to this game, the presidency is winner take all, and if you aren't willing to fight in the trenches for it, to match the opposition tit for tat, you will lose. Sorry.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:14 PM
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61. Obama isn't losing, and no, I don't want another puke in office.
For one thing, I don't think Hillary has a hope in hell of winning the GE or the primary, secondly, if she did win the GE, I think she'd be as bad or worse than a puke.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:12 AM
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66. as bad or worse?
damn. you really hate the bitch for having the temerity to fight, don't you? understand that the five times that Clinton and Obama voted differently HE voted with the republicans. understand that. but still, since Hillary doesn't know when to go back to the kitchen.

as bad or worse than a puke. seriously, grow up and open your fucking eyes, this is the language that is 'tearing the party apart' you're the one who just told other Democrats, many of them the traditional strongholds of the party, that their 10 million plus votes so far were for someone that is 'bad or worse than a repuke'

enjoy your time under President McCain, jackass. at least he won't be as bad as Hillary, right?
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:33 PM
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43. I'll call her right now!
You are so right, it's been said by the air filled Oompas for weeks now that she should quit. Lets call her Pastor and have him stand beside her as she quits the race. Would that be ok?
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:33 PM
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44. Fuck the asking. They should go stage right and give her the fucking hook.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:33 PM
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45. Kick.
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:38 PM
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49. BS
It seems Obama supporters want Hillary to drop out so their guy can win.. I sense your post cares nothing about party unity it's we want our guy to win.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:55 PM
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51.  Clinton has lost? What news are you reading?
You need to take a good look at Obama's latest pollings and the way the media is portraying him lately. Obama should drop out.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:08 PM
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53. Youre crazy, Another post has her leading 49-42 nt
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:16 PM
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56. Hillary can't stand down when Obama isn't electable
After what has happened the past two weeks and the statements "Obama and Kerry" said today people are distancing themselves from him. Since you didn't see it, Lou Dobbs showed videos of Obama and Kerry's statements which did not go over well at all. And a poll on CNN showed 67% of the voters felt negative toward Obama.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:22 PM
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59. Read my sig line and get a clue!
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:52 PM
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62. It's 2,024 now.
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/

Otherwise you're obviously right, he's not the nominee yet.
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