Breaking: Obama's Passport Info. Hacked!!

[malik flavors]

Just saw it on MSNBC

Somebody tried to dig into his personal information

[polichick]

1. Saw that - what could anyone do with the info??

[malik flavors]

2. Some moron trying to find out where he's been traveling I guess.

[icnorth]

3. Agent Mike???? eom

[barb162]

60. Olbermann is playing this up like it is earth shaking.

:eyes:

Bill Clinton's files were messed with too when he was president, as they're saying now.

[FyurFly]

98. KO is a puppet at best

He is starting to come across as an act and not as a reporter.

[tridim]

129. Go cheney yourself. He's reporting the news.

[barb162]

180. dupe

self delete

[barb162]

193. So far he's been covering this for almost 50 minutes

And the program isn't over. Now if there were a break-in to Obama's house, okay, spend 50 minutes on it.

You'd think this was life and death stuff, like the floods in the Midwest or an earthquake. It's a damned file.

[barb162]

203. Uncalled for. Olbermann is definitely showing some partisanship

and not covering the candidates at an objective distance any more. There are still two Democratic candidates in this race last I looked. Olbermann seems to be getting hysterical about this fairly- nothing, but still serious story. I question if McCain's or Nader's or Clinton's files were compromised, he'd be doing a breathless 50 minutes on it.

[Cha]

236. hilary's a liar and fearmonger and she

called Obama "UnAmerican" ..she can go cheney and rove herself.

KO doesn't put up with shite.

[barb162]

301. Your comments on Clinton REALLY have a lot to do with passports

:sarcasm:

I could have sworn this was a thread on peeking into a passport file.

[Lilith Velkor]

299. If by 'some partisanship' you mean 'daily anilingus,' then yeah.

[barb162]

302. BWA, wonderful post!

KO should just call it the "St. Barak Show" already.

[barb162]

197. I have noticed that too.

It's become so apparent, when he was trashing (sneering about)Ferraro's comments and then treating Obama with kid gloves, relatively speaking, over Wright.

[Cha]

235. You're a sock puppet at best.. n/t

[Window]

109. It may not be "earth shaking," but it is very, very serious.

[barb162]

207. It's serious. Yes.

And I'm glad the State Dept. fired whoever it was who did it. I sure can't remember when it happened to Clinton, though, that it got this kind of breathless and long air time.

[Cha]

243. That's really too bad you don't

like the air time on this. Did ya like the air time the m$$$m gave to Pastor Wright?

[barb162]

271. Yes it is too bad; they'll hear about it.

Coverage needs to be less partisan than what KO has been doing lately.

[azmouse]

This is 3 different incidents. It is a big deal.

If don't think it is, how would you react if this had happened to Hillary this year?
This goes to larger issues in the Bush administration.

[barb162]

219. see my post 203

Actually I think a much bigger story today is the Midwest flooding with over ten people dead and he's covering a F.I.L.E. for more than half the show.

[Cha]

245. KO does politics ..glad you're

not the programmer just the one who whines.

[barb162]

255. I'm aware he does politics; that's why I happily watched his show

for the last few years. But it's become highly skewed toward one candidate lately and the lack of objectivity is showing.

Wait till I start writing letters to his bosses at MSNBC and GE demanding objective coverage of the Democratic race. Then they'll see some whining.

[Window]

280. Hell, it may have already been posted on the internets already.

[writes3000]

125. ABUSE of government power is earth shaking. n/t

[barb162]

214. Is that what this is? Possibly.

They didn't say who or why or whatever the heck is going on.

[ampad]

135. You people are fucking pathetic

This is very serious no matter who the hell it happened to. They waited months to let anyone know this went down. That right there tells you just how serious this is, geesh.

[myrna minx]

150. NO kidding. My teeth would have shattered if this happened to Hillary Clinton, too.

[DangerousRhythm]

184. Damn straight.

This is just disturbing, no matter whose records were gone through.

Totally unrelated, they just showed Obama signing something on MSNBC... I had no idea he's a lefty. :D

[Norrin Radd]

196. Yeah, noticed him signing that menu for that kid. Go Southpaws!

[myrna minx]

199. Ha. i'm a lefty too.

:hi:

[jenmito]

241. So am I! And I noticed his lefty-ism a LONG time ago!

:hi:

[myrna minx]

248. Ha. A toast to those of us with ink smears on our hand.

:toast: :rofl:

[Symarip]

257. NO WAY!!!

You mean I'm not the only one?!?!


We should start a club.

[myrna minx]

275. Heh. You'd think I used a quill and an ink well during an earthquake.

:rofl: Welcome to DU, lefty. :pals:

[jenmito]

293. Yes! I HATE that!!!

:toast: :hi:

[myrna minx]

296. Oops...it looks like we hijacked the thread! Behold the power of the lefties.

:hi:

[jenmito]

298. That's ok. We deserve our own little sub-thread!

We're the minority here! :hi: :D

[Cha]

247. I saw that the other day and thought

about my lefty daughter.

[Name removed]

167. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[barb162]

228. It is not earth shaking.

I'm not noticing any quake reports on MSNBC right now or anyplace else.
:sarcasm:

[blonndee]

182. Big red banner on CNN.com, breaking news at that site too. n/t

[barb162]

231. Have you noticed them gabbing about it ?

They're probably giving it the coverage it deserves if they run it along the line at the bottom.

[K Gardner]

4. PassportGate !!

[redstate_democrat]

5. They really are pathetic

BREACHED AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT!

Somebody' ass needs to be hauled before congress TOMORROW! They were selling this info I AM SURE. He should have been notified THE DAY it happened. They could have falsified information in his file, etc.

THIS NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED.

[K Gardner]

8. Oh, plz be Mark Penn, plz be Mark Penn...

[redstate_democrat]

10. EVEN BETTER!

:rofl:

[niceypoo]

230. Hate distorts reality...

[Forkboy]

285. Can we quote you on that another time?

[Cha]

254. I just got here but my question is

how do they find out these things? You'd think if somebody was doing it in the bush misadmin then they'd cover it up properly?

[backscatter712]

80. *-gate is right!

This is literally, the electronic equivalent of the Watergate burglaries. Instead of a physical burglary, they burglarized Obama's passport files.

I wish I had faith that the system still works, and that the investigation will peel back all the cover-ups and scapegoats and trace the order all the way to the White House or the McCain campaign, and it'll end with a resignation or impeachment.

[angie_love]

6. ooooh please let it be mccains ppl!!!!!!!!!!!!

[roguevalley]

50. let it be someone who sold the information to both mccain and

clinton. might explain how the somali photo came out.

[Divine Discontent]

281. OH YEAH>.... that'd be great! if it were the GOP party somehow...

[high density]

7. Ok thanks for the headline

I simply could not decipher what the hell "passport breach report" means on their Chyron.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. Why does Obama have a passport?

Does he hate America and want to leave? Sean Hannity reports yes...

[bigdarryl]

25. hes a US Senator IDIOT!!!

[K Gardner]

36. oh god help me, LOL... thanks for answering that. I thought everybody had

a passport. Even my grandkids do.

[CTyankee]

83. Having a passport = being an unpatriotic American

Why would any God loving American want to leave its shores?

[DemReadingDU]

190. No one in my family has a passport, n/t

[tyedyeto]

297. From looking at your profile, I'd guess you have no relatives who....

go to Canada or Mexico for prescription medications.

I live near the Mexican border and see many seniors who can't afford medicines here but go to Mexico for the prescriptions. Our 'wonderful' "Homeland (how I hate that word) Security" folks have been telling all the older folks down here to 'get your passport' or you can't come back when you walk over to Nogales for an hour or two. But they've delayed and delayed the date that you must HAVE a passport when walking across the border, several times already. We first heard that in early 2007, walkers would need a passport, so many seniors got them at a cost some could barely afford. Now, I hear it's been delayed until sometime in 2009.

Make up your mind folks!

[BuyingThyme]

37. I don't think that was a serious question.

But, then again, I don't know if that was a serious response.

:hi:

[K Gardner]

53. ROFL ! Hard to know anything around this place these days :-)

[TahitiNut]

96. Well, d'oh.

:rofl:

[TheDoorbellRang]

130. Looks like we should all use the sarcasm tag

even when it seems obvious, eh? :spray:

Lots of raw nerves in GD-P these days...

[malik flavors]

11. It was from the Government!

[Babel_17]

12. Google says ....

"Here's what Drudge has so far:

Quote:
DIRTY TRICKS FEAR AFTER STATE DEPT. FIRES TWO FOR UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO BARACK OBAMA'S PERSONAL PASSPORT FILE... MORE... WASHINGTON TIMES SET TO SPLASH THE DEVELOPMENT, NEWSROOM SOURCES TELL DRUDGE REPORT... MORE..."

http://www.libertynewsforum.com/libertynewsforumcgi/news/YaBB.pl?num=1206056232

[1776Forever]

18. Thanks! I will keep looking at this one - Hope we hear who did it!

:hi:

[DeschutesRiver]

44. Let's hope

that this is not Clinton related in any way. Because if it is, her viability is over. Her credibility will never recover. I am rememebering things like travel-gate now, and understand it is entirely possible.

The other drudge headline is a picture of Bill Clinton with Rev. Wright, calling him "my good friend." I think we are now getting to the "Lve by the sword, die by the sword" phase. I never cease to be amazed at the Clintons capacity to assume that people can't put two and two together. They can, if someone begins to lay out the case. Which should start in earnest closer to PA. All of the numerous scandals are about to be "remembered", one painful memory after another. This is simply the worst thing that could happen to the Democratic Party at this juncture.

It was bound to happen later in the GE; it is just that Clinton has an overwhelming amount of ammo that can be fired at her because of past misbehaviors. The campaign that thought it was a great idea to attack Obama this way in fact sped up the process on attacks on themselves. I am surprised that so many bright people drank the kool aid and believed they were bullet proof.

[kiva]

138. Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

First to directly attempt to implicate Hillary! Second place still open: who will be the one to blame it on Clenis?

[myrna minx]

178. I'm an Obama supporter and I am very outraged by this, the same way that

this outrageous crime shouldn't have happened to President Clinton before his first run for office. This is a serious crime, no matter who it happened to. If this had happened to Hillary Clinton, (and do we know that it hasn't?) I can guarantee I would be hopping mad, too. This is a violation and proof of our Government run amok, and should chill us all.

[K Gardner]

181. Excellent post, and welcome :-)

[K Gardner]

183. Excellent post, and welcome :-)

[tishaLA]

45. HOWS THE FUCK did ther Wash Times break this?

They're idiots and zealots.

[writes3000]

13. Good God, these people are EVIL. n/t

[jenmito]

14. Traced to the STATE DEPT.!

[myrna minx]

67. Per Olbermann: Breech happened in January.

?: WHo did this what was is used for.

The State Dept has known about this since the breech happened.

[jenmito]

77. I heard that. About the time he won Iowa.

Hmmm...

[myrna minx]

90. This stinks to high heaven.

Fineman: State dept called Obama's office. Senator Obama not contacted directly. State treated this as a routine call. Michelle Obama is not effected.

[jenmito]

152. THAT'S for sure!

[jefferson_dem]

101. Condi on the spot!

[jenmito]

155. Nah...it's "low level employees" with NO knowledge by Rice or anyone else!

:sarcasm:

[Coexist]

15. 2 people sacked over this.

[K Gardner]

16. They were "contract" employees.. oh, this really could get good..

[Coexist]

23. "this is a huge story. this will eclipse everything else we have been talking about"

wow.

[K Gardner]

30. I just got down and kissed the floor and flung my hands around in the air a little.

[roguevalley]

55. you and me both, K Gardner, honey

[K Gardner]

74. I bet there are lots of floorkissers and handwavers tonight ! (we're kinda pathetic, huh?)

[roguevalley]

201. heh-heh-heh... I prefer to think we have wisdom and far sightedness

I also noted a few dust bunnies down there. :)

[Cha]

266. It's been sad for us with m$$$m Goring

Obama over Wright the last few days. We're just glad something came up to distract the jackals. I told my co-worker/friend tonight I would send him and his wife the Newspaper Op Eds, complilation link from across the country to cheer her up.

[Window]

151. Oh, yeah baby!!!

Passportgate here we come!!!

[KamaAina]

173. ChoicePoint or the equivalent?

Blackwater?? :tinfoilhat:

[K Gardner]

187. That was my first thought, with no idea if they contract Civies or Not !

[Bluebear]

17. Two State Dept employees FIRED

Good.

[LSparkle]

107. Third employee disciplined (but still there?)

Accessed out of "curiosity"?

BULLSHIT!!!!

THREE SEPARATE ACCESSES -- Several in January; latest this month.

[Babel_17]

19. Olberman covering story (nt)

[Tatiana]

20. OK... this is BEYOND NIXONIAN. They are going all out to take him down.

TWO STATE DEPT. EMPLOYEES FIRED FOR ACCESSING OBAMA'S RECORDS!!!!!!!!!

WHO DID THIS SHIT?

I AM SO FUCKING PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[malik flavors]

21. Passport Gate Indeed. Holy Crap!

[angie_love]

22. Howard Fineman says its a huge story!!

[LSparkle]

121. Delete -- dupe

[LSparkle]

124. Calls it "breathtaking" -- is sure Condi had to know

Ooh, is Miss Thang in for some "discipline" for this?????

[jenmito]

24. I wonder who these people are connected to!!!

[FrenchieCat]

26. Was done in January 2008.....

when was Iowa?

[Tatiana]

65. Good point. Does this relate to the Obama is a Muslim/madrassa smear perpetuated in Iowa?

Thomas denounces smear campaign against UCC’s largest congregation

Written by J. Bennett Guess
January 11, 2008


A ramped-up smear campaign against the UCC's largest congregation and U.S. Sen. Barack Obama's home church — Trinity UCC in Chicago — has raised the ire of the Rev. John H. Thomas, the UCC's general minister and president, who called the e-mail-driven claims "absurd, mean-spirited and politically motivated."

"Our national offices in Cleveland, as well as other settings of the UCC, have been forwarded countless e-mails that obviously derive from a similar source," Thomas said. "They contain misleading statements obviously meant to undermine the integrity of one of our most vibrant, mission-driven congregations."

Thomas said, while it's not his intent to come to the aid of Obama or any presidential candidate, he does feel it's imperative that "absurd, mean-spirited and politically-motivated attacks against one of our UCC churches be challenged forthrightly."

Obama, who is seeking the Democratic nomination for president, has been a member of Trinity UCC for 20 years.

Since Obama won the Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3, a flurry of e-mail messages with identical language and sentiment began circulating across the internet, claiming that Trinity UCC was a "racist" congregation because of its long-stated church motto: "Unashamedly Black, Unapologetically Christian."

(more...)

http://www.ucc.org/news/thomas-denounces-smear-1.html

Note the dates.

[ampad]

27. Wow

These people are really afraid of Obama winning the nomination.

[Raine]

28. WTF???

What does anyone think they will find out from the passport except where he traveled and I'm sure that's already well documented.

[roguevalley]

58. could have explained the somali photo. when did that come out?

[writes3000]

29. It happened in January of 2008. Obama's campaign was JUST told about this.

I have a sneaking suspicion about how this is going to go.

And if I'm right, it will be unbelievably ugly.

[Cha]

269. You'll have to let us know

if you were right.

[TexasLady]

31. Cant wait to see how this one plays out

[leeroysphitz]

32. If he hasn't done anything wrong then what is he worried about?

:sarcasm:

[Skoods]

33. Obama planned this

He sent his own men in there so that the media would stop covering Pastor-gate and he'd become the victim again!!!!!

:sarcasm:

[K Gardner]

42. And he time-traveled to do it ! Went back in his Time Machine to Jan so it wouldn't look

fishy !! Damn Barack Obama and the Traveling Time Machine !

:sarcasm:

[Skoods]

51. You never know!!

Anything is possible in this world! He's once again playing dirty and cheating us all!

haha even though I am a Clinton supporter, I can have a laugh about people who accuse Obama of the stupid stuff he's been accused of. Either way, we need to win in November with whichever candidate we have.

[knixphan]

169. lol

[book_worm]

34. The ? Fineman is asking is who were the people? what were there connections in GOP circles or even

rival campaign circles--if any.

[malik flavors]

35. This is like John Lennon type stuff, but way more serious.

[Life Long Dem]

38. Watching it now. Need answers. Two fired, Obama WANTS answers!!

[Coexist]

41. What did the White House know and when did they know it?

Where was Condi in all this?


Holy shit.

[Life Long Dem]

48. January 2008, saying secretary of state must have known about the breach.

[Coexist]

52. Holy shit - this is huge.

[Tatiana]

39. Haul Condi's ass before Congress. n/t

[jenmito]

40. Pastor-gate gone. Passport-gate ON! The page has been turned and it will be VERY

interesting to see who's involved!

[FrenchieCat]

43. Where in the fuck is our Constitution?

[jenmito]

46. In shreds. And it happened right around the time of his Iowa win!

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

68. This should get juicy...

And to top it off, Obama get's a twofer, pastorgate RIP, and he can turn the fight into a battle between him and the corrupt Chimp/More of Same McLame.

Want a change?

[jenmito]

95. Exactly!

That's what I'M sayin'! I now believe there IS a god! :D

[roguevalley]

81. I would be seriously pissed if someone checked into my passports

how dare they find out all the places I've never been. :evilgrin:

I hope Barack nails this to the wall. Someone is a complete asshole. If it is McCain, he's toast. Whoever runs for the dem spot--- our
man, Obama--- could be running unopposed. LOL!

GO, OBAMA!

[DerekJ]

200. Constit.... What? !!!

Sorry never heard about him, try the neighbors.

[K Gardner]

49. I wish we knew who the Contracting Company was for these "employees"

[jenmito]

114. So do I. (MSNBC is STILL the only cable news channel covering it!)

[Tellurian]

78. Someone posted this info- could be something pertinent..

if the Pubs are looking for a terrorist connection to Wright.. I don't know..

According to Aaron Klein of World Net Daily, a conservative online news source

JERUSALEM - Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter - which calls for the murder of Jews - to America's Declaration of Independence.

The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week.

The revelation follows a recent WND article quoting Israeli security officials who expressed "concern" about Robert Malley, an adviser to Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group."


http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/20/142052/602

[jenmito]

131. It was 3 different people on 3 separate occasions!

[myrna minx]

Don't bother. Seriously.

World Net Daily is the "source". :hi:

[jenmito]

145. I know. It's bull. And they wouldn't have been fired if it was anything legit...

Thanks, though! :hi:

[Tellurian]

157. They're already downplaying the breech... A decision was made by the Insp General

It would be something criminal if the info had been disseminated and shared with others.

It appears to be just someone digging out of curiosity... nothing malicious.

[jenmito]

162. Of COURSE they are!!!

[writes3000]

175. Breaking the law is significant. And give me a break, all three incidents were nothing malicious?

Here's a clue - don't you think they're all told that looking at these records without just cause BREAKS THE LAW?

And yet, they did it anyway.

Just cause they were curious. Uh-huh. Keep on wishing away our rights.

[me b zola]

283. Then you won't mind if I dig through your personal files, eh?

I promise it'll just be out of curiosity, nothing malicious. }(

[myrna minx]

158. I can't believe that there are people here who are ok with this.

:crazy:

[jenmito]

168. I'm not surprised. n/t

[Leopolds Ghost]

227. Hillaryis44 says Obama might be a Muyslim Terrist, so it's OK to look thru his records.

[myrna minx]

233. That's just beyond the pale.

Well, how would Hillaryis44 like it if they find out Hillary's info was breeched too? It's not out of the realm of possibility.

[Tellurian]

238. Now, why would you make up a Lie like that?

Do you get some sort of personal gratification out of LYING about something like that?

At the very least you should apologize for that pitiful lie!

[Tellurian]

234. I never said I was OK with this..

I said they are downplaying the breech.. My sense of this. Someone was definately snooping and what will come of it we'll find out sooner or later. There's been a violation, but so far, there has been no criminal acts committed. So, imo...someone (GOP operative) circumvented the law and knew exactly what they were doing and exactly what they were looking for.

That is just my opinion..nothing I've heard from talking heads. I don't think it's big enough to overcome Wrightgate!

[myrna minx]

134. Oh, so Wright is a terrorist now? I guess that excuses this

wholly illegal breech at the State Dept? World Net Daily? *sigh*

If this breech doesn't send a chill down your spine, and you can't see the horrendous ramifications of this, then I just throw my arms up to you.

[Tellurian]

146. It's been done before to Bill Clinton..

Republcans will go to any length for Opo research... They did it to Clinton. He survived.

[myrna minx]

156. I know it happened to President Clinton too, and it was illegal and wrong then too!

It has nothing to do with survival, it has everything to do with our rule of law, and Nixonian dirty tricks.

[DerekJ]

209. Tellurian, you posted so many RW, and bogus sources. you have a credability of a 5 years old

Come to think about it , I will take the 5 years old over you.

[Tellurian]

240. Not really.. If it makes you feel good to believe what you're saying..

I feel sorry for you!

I'll pray for you tonight!

[K Gardner]

252. LOL.. now I know which "ignored" it is. Despicable and ignorant, to be sure.

[Cha]

270. From your keyboard to the Universal

Light of Good!

[TexasLady]

47. I want names and connections to those names.

:mad:

[thewiseguy]

54. Who broke this story? Washington Post? NBC?

[K Gardner]

57. Obama's press guy sent out a press release. The State Dept told them TODAY about this

breach that happened in Jan.

[thewiseguy]

66. MSNBC.com has a breaking news ticker quoting state department officials

[SoonerPride]

61. Washington Times

Moonie Central, I know.

[Life Long Dem]

56. Keep your eye on Hillary. She goes into hiding when she is guilty.

[thewiseguy]

59. I hope McCain was behind this.

[PM7nj]

64. I don't think so...

The statement from Obama's press secretary made it seem that this is connected to the Bush administration.

[SeattleGirl]

71. Come on, now.

Don't go there.

It's the Bush state department, under the Bush administration.

I'm an Obama supporter, but I really don't like seeing posts like this.

[americanstranger]

(Puts on tin foil hat...)

Hey, if you let your mind wander, you can come up with all sorts of interesting possibilities....

Bill's been pretty chummy with Poppy.

Poppy's a former head spook.

Poppy's also the father of the moron playing X-Box in the White House as I type this.

There are many, many directions this story could go...

(Takes tin foil hat off.)

- as

[K Gardner]

97. Don't feel paranoid alone.. I thought the same thing.

[americanstranger]

118. Paranoid? I'm being realistic!

I've seen so much crap flying in this primary, it was only a matter of time until we got to the good ol' time dirty tricks.

The ghosts of Donald Segretti and Lee Atwater laugh and clink cocktails.

- as

[stillcool]

242. and Poppy did it first...

to Bill.

[Life Long Dem]

303. Well your seeing it. And the lead is pointing to Hillary.

No coincidence as there are too many.

[Tellurian]

160. t's already over.. I wondered how long it would take an idiot to accuse Clinton..

Less than an 30 min..

asshole!

[annie1]

171. my keyboard malfunctioned today, i suspect hillary may have had something to do with that.

[UALRBSofL]

62. They are mentioning one of the kennedy's in this scandal

Patrick F. Kennedy was over this department. So, someone will be talking to him. Ewwww they had Clinton's passport breached in 1991. Who are these people, what are they up to???

[babylonsister]

72. I don't think he's from 'THE' Kennedy family; this guy works for the

rethugs, so I imagine he is one.

[jenmito]

63. MSNBC is the only cable news channel covering it so far.

[writes3000]

70. I noticed that. Very telling, no? n/t

[jenmito]

103. Yes!

:hi:

[my3boyz]

75. Cnn prefers to play Wright over and over. nt

[K Gardner]

88. Good lord, I glanced over there and they have RW Hate Talk Show hosts on commenting

about Wright and Obama?? WTF??? Screw them.

[jenmito]

186. CNN & Faux-2 cut from the same cloth. But Obama's on Larry King tonight-pre-taped.

But I don't want to change the channel. I guess I'll record it.

[yourguide]

69. well I will say...

if this isnt the GWB operative's doing then I can assure you it the admin will make sure the blame ends up where blame is due.

[babylonsister]

76. It might also change the m$m dialogue. nt

[tridim]

73. Is Larry King still live? If so, Barack will be on in 35 minutes.

[high density]

79. I think it varies

Sometimes he's live, sometimes he isn't.

[K Gardner]

82. Yes ! We need to tune in to that ! I hope its not Wright/GrannyGate for the whole hour.

[LSparkle]

85. I think it is ... King tapes in L.A. and first airing is at 6PM here

35 minutes from now.

MUST SEE TV!

[JimGinPA]

91. LOL

Thanks for the reminder.

[Life Long Dem]

84. The fact that it was kept secret makes this very very suspicious in this campaign election.

[americanstranger]

137. They could have kept it quiet so as not to

jeopardize the investigation.

That, or they just didn't want anyone to know - but they did notify Obama.

- as

[writes3000]

86. CNN just NOW is reporting on it. n/t

[my3boyz]

94. Can't believe it. Glad I was wrong about them this time. nt

[tridim]

104. Faux has Bill-O talking about that missing English girl.

Such a fresh story there Bill.

[MinM]

87. What goes around comes around -- from Nov. 1992:

Didn't this happen with (Bill) Clinton?

UPDATE: What goes around comes around -- from Nov. 1992:

A State Department official who carried out the two-day search of passport files for information about Gov. Bill Clinton said today that he had resigned, just 48 hours before Federal investigators are expected to issue a report criticizing the search.

The official, Steven M. Moheban, was a top aide to Elizabeth M. Tamposi, the Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs who was dismissed last week by President Bush for her role in the search of files on Mr. Clinton, his mother, Virginia Kelley, and Ross Perot, the independent Presidential candidate.

So I wonder if Obama's trip to Manchuria would be in there?

UPDATE II: Apparently the story is from the Washington Times, so...Drudge, Washington Times, what's the pro-conservative spin on this?

http://www.attytood.com/2008/03/who_would_do_such_a_thing.html

[B2G]

89. See this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5181265

[Bigleaf]

92. This is a fucking disgrace that it took this long to inform him. Time for fucking subpoenas.

[myrna minx]

93. Countdown: Passport info dated back to the early 1970's.

[americanstranger]

102. Oh, they were digging deep, weren't they?

Obama better get subpoenas issued, prontissimo. Evidence is probably disappearing as we type.

- as

[myrna minx]

112. Per Fineman:

Info dating back to his to his time spent in Indonesia.

Olbermann: This happened on three separate occasions.

Your darn right this is the time for subpoenas!

[tishaLA]

206. that kook Laura Ingraham was yapping about

Obama changing his name, like that he didn't always use it. I wonder shrieking is related to this. There may be some "info" that's not especially important circulating through RW channels now as a result of this breach.

[myrna minx]

211. Well, if any dirty info "emerges" from this breech, we'll know who was behind it then,

won't we. :hi:

[rainbow4321]

259. Nice....like how early in the 70's?

And did they mention "Obama was TEN YEARS OLD" in 1970??? Probably not, they'll just act like he was a grown adult making his own travel itinerary.

[myrna minx]

278. Yes, dating back to when he was a child.

It, in my opinion, was to snoop into his life back when he was in Indonesia, you know, when he was 10 years old.

[BattyDem]

99. So ... is this the proof that BushCo is spying on their political enemies?

Is anyone besides MSNBC covering it?

How long before the terror alert is called? :eyes:

[B2G]

119. You're sure it's Bushco, huh? n/t

[BattyDem]

127. I hope so because I really don't want to believe that ...

an outsider has that amount of power within our state department. :scared: What else would they be capable of doing within the department? I'm certainly not happy with the way BushCo does things, but if a third party is also pulling strings in our state department, we are totally screwed!

[B2G]

140. Who's to say it wasn't State Department employees

Acting on behalf of someone outside of the Bush administration?

You really need to use your imagination more. ;-)

[BattyDem]

154. LOL ... I know what you're saying.

To be perfectly honest, if that's the case, it would bother me much more. I expect this behavior from BushCo ... but if someone else has managed to breach security from the outside for political reasons, what does that say about the overall security of our country? An employee could sell information to the highest bidder and it will take about 2 months before anyone notices ... that's just freakin' wonderful. :-(

[IDemo]

100. side question: why is Fineman pronouncing it "BARR-ick" Obama?

[LSparkle]

149. He does that occasionally -- he also pronounces it "Ba-RACK"

Maybe he has a friend with the last name "Barrick" or something close and he
sometimes slips into saying it that way "by default."

[IDemo]

159. OK, thanks, nothing major.

At least he doesn't pronounce Keith's last name "Ohbmin", like Tweety does.

[thewiseguy]

105. Breaking news ticker on CNN.com

This is going to get serious.

[writes3000]

120. Three people, three different occasions, three different months.

And just NOW they're telling Obama?

SCUM.

[high density]

106. Three breaches

The most recent was last Friday!

[FrenchieCat]

116. First one, January 9th.....6 days after Obama won Iowa......

Feb. 21st was the 2nd breach. what primaries had occurred then?

[K Gardner]

132. Super Tues and then the other 11 he won in a row??

[Tatiana]

141. Feb. 19th - Hawaii and Wisconsin

Feb. 12th - DC, Maryland, and Virginia

Feb. 10th - Maine

Feb. 9th - Louisiana, Nebraska, Washington

He won these states.

I am sick.

[tridim]

117. OMFG! This is gigantic.

What have they managed to change in three tries? Or the other times they weren't caught?

[Tatiana]

108. THREE TIMES THEY ACCESSED HIS RECORDS!

Three separate times by three separate people. Two were fired. The third is "pending."

January, February and the last time was March 14th????

What the F*CK??@!!

[City Lights]

110. Three separate people, three separate times!

:nuke:

[K Gardner]

111. OK.. who wrote down those dates? Three people, 3 different dates.. Jan, Feb and March 14

[PM7nj]

126. 1/9, 2/21, 3/14

[FrenchieCat]

133. January 9, February 21, and March 14......

Iowa was on January 3rd
Wisconsin was February 19th

[PM7nj]

113. 3 separate breaches?

what in the world is so interesting in his passport files...

[EFerrari]

122. Three separate occurances. Beginning in Janaury and as late

as a couple of weeks ago.

[BumRushDaShow]

115. My my my.... n/t

[City Lights]

123. Outrageous that Obama is first being notified now!

:wtf:

[thewiseguy]

128. Breaking news on all 3 major news channels

Fox says State Department will respond to breaches!

[LSparkle]

142. Conference call set for 9PM tonight (EST)

they're not wasting any time -- they know this is serious shit.

[Patsy Stone]

136. Ever wonder how to unite the Dems?

I think this did it.

[B2G]

143. I hope so

But we still don't know who's ultimately behind it.

[Patsy Stone]

153. This makes the administration look bad

just for the lack of FBI investigation, and the fact that it happened three separate times, let alone "what did the President know, and when did he know it?"

And it also gives Independents something to think about if they were flipping between McCain and Obama.

[B2G]

164. It really depends on alot of things

Could be that the offenses never got reported up the chain. Someone's gonna be out of a job over this one. Or several someones.

[Patsy Stone]

174. After the second time

someone should have known. By the third time it looks deliberate, and ridiculous.

[BattyDem]

165. Not just the Dems

No American likes this kind of thing. Could this be the event that finally wakes up the entire country?

[LSparkle]

139. OMG -- Andrea Mitchell speculates "political SKULLDUGGERY"???

I'M LOVING THIS!!!!!

Take down the fuckers!!!!

[NoodleyAppendage]

144. Best news Obama could hope for. Say goodbye to the Wright bullshit news cycle. Thanks! State Dept!

This might carry on for weeks and automatically makes Obama a sympathetic character. Great news for those of us around here who are thoughtful enough not to drink the pro-corporate, DLCer, Clinton Koolaid.

J

[thewiseguy]

148. This is much bigger than that

Somebody's ass is on the line here. I pray to god its McCain's folks.

[Cha]

282. I love how we're all

good at diagnosing political pysche 101 on these jackals! :patriot: :bounce: :kick: :party:

[BlueIdaho]

147. It was a big deal

When this happened to Bill Clinton in 1991 - it sure as hell is a big deal now too.

[Tellurian]

166. It's over... already investigated..nothing malicious.. a dud..

nothing to replace Pastorgate in the news. No more than a blip on the radar!

[Danger Mouse]

170. you wish...with every bone in your hateful body.

[Tellurian]

179. All the hateful spew coming from you..

project much?

[Danger Mouse]

224. haha, tellurian, i could NEVER hope to spew as much hate as you do...

but i'm willing to learn.
instruct me, great teacher!

[K Gardner]

188. What is IGNORED up to tonight? LOL.. I can only imagine, thank god.

[Danger Mouse]

225. i'm sure you can.

:P

[angie_love]

185. you're a fucking loser. You can't see beyond Hillarys ass to see that this is serious for DEMS!!

[writes3000]

189. I see our civil rights mean NOTHING to you. Pathetic but not surprising. n/t

[thewiseguy]

191. Throw this guy's ass out of DU

[cottonseed]

195. Don't you have a security breach on hillaryis44.org to fix?

You're opening up your member information to internet spammers and you're here trying to bash Obama?

[Tellurian]

208. I don't think that is the way it worked..

most likely for every page hit a counter recorded it..I've never gotten any spam of any kind of any pharma company ever. We notified the site and they are redoing the site and removing any embedded links..

You can read an update here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5122501#5127138

[JimGinPA]

161. Three Different People, Three Different Dates - Nothing Suspicious About This - Move Along...

Nothing to see here.

:wow:

[JVS]

163. Well let's see. Who has connections within the department? The last 2 presidents do.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

172. WTF?????? This Was For Fucking REAL???? This Needs Answers Fucking NOW.

I'm fucking STUNNED by what I'm reading here. I just turned the tv on and am hoping I didn't miss it all. This is one of the most bullshit things I've ever heard about during a campaign. Inexcusable. Just inexcusable.

How the fuck could they wait this long to bring it forward? And WHY are they bringing it forward NOW??? Was it leaked? Is there a hidden agenda? What the fuck happened here?

I know, I know, I'm rambling, but I'm fucking stunned that this thread was for real. I wanna know who, why, and under whose authority. This is actually a serious fucking breach.

[K Gardner]

192. These people were "contracted". Any idea what company contracts employees to the State Dept? Someon

up thread suggested Choice Point/Blackwater.. I've no idea, but its creepy.

[PM7nj]

210. Doesn't State Dept. handle Iraq Contractors?

Isn't the State Department in charge of the contractors in Iraq? If so.... KBR, Blackwater, et all... EEK.

[myrna minx]

198. It is stunning. Why are contracted employees allowed to thumb through our records anyway.

[slinkerwink]

262. it is a serious breach. If this happened to Clinton, I'd be hopping mad.

but Clinton supporters here don't seem to think it's a big deal.

[PM7nj]

176. Why wasn't he notified?

Why wasn't he notified after the first time... or after the second time... or after the 3rd time! It has been over 50 days since the first breach, and almost a week since the last! And the state dept. decides just to let him know today? wth?

[DemzRock]

177. Watch out now... Could be W's people trying to frame someone... a Rovian trick n/t

[Tatiana]

194. Wash. Times says Condi Rice was notified about this yesterday.

Take it with a grain of salt...

She could have been in on it.

[PM7nj]

205. Did they break the story?

Did the wash times break this story, or was it NBC? I have heard both. If it was the Times... why? How does this fit into their agenda?

[npincus]

202. 2 wrongs don't make a Wright

[myrna minx]

204. Is it even a question that all of our rights have been flushed down the drain, so

for political "research"? IS it a leap to imagine that both Obama's and Clinton's emails, and phone calls have been "looked into"?

[FyurFly]

212. What would he have to hide?

Wouldn't this be public knowledge for someone running as a Presidential candidate?

[jenmito]

215. So just anyone can look at his social security # and other info. and that's ok with you?

[FyurFly]

222. How much personal information is in a passport file?

Any idea, I have never had one so I don't know.

[jenmito]

223. They said his SS# as well as everywhere he traveled his entire life plus more info.

I have a passport but haven't used it in many years.

[tammywammy]

263. A lot of personal information.

Check out the application

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html

[barb162]

276. Nobody should get that SS number..

And I'm sure everyone would agree with that.

[myrna minx]

218. So illegally snooping through someone's private records is ok now?

What was all that hub-bub about Daniel Ellsberg office anyway.

[npincus]

213. Could the scandal lead all the way to

our President?

[Fluffdaddy]

216. Did not take long before someone here blamed HRC

[Connie_Corleone]

217. The Inspector General JUST FOUND OUT TODAY!!!!!!!!!!

WTF!!

[stillcool]

237. they are probably trying to set up...

their bad apple excuse. Somebody will fall on their sword, and that will be the end of it. Maybe Condi will do a re-run of her "Who could have imagined?"

[Poll_Blind]

220. I'd love to see to which presidential campaign the snoopers donated to.

(If they donated to a campaign or campaigns at all)

PB

[pompano]

221. Wow...talking about outsourcing?

They have thrown so many "kitchen sinks" they are out of sinks already?

:rofl:
:rofl:

[high density]

226. Lawrence Eagleburger...

Whining about David Shuster. What an asshole he is.

[PM7nj]

229. WHAAAT? GET OFF MY LAWN...

[Cha]

232. That wouldn't be ol'

hilary and her hench jackals, would it?

[Bullet1987]

239. And Tucker brings up Wright...saying this is good news for Obama

I know he is boiling that he can't continue talking about that shit.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

244. That's effed up - why am I not surprised. The bastards finally got caught...

They probably looked at Hillary's too.

[slinkerwink]

246. that's big news. Who did this and WHY?

[jenmito]

261. 3 different people on 3 different occasions! I doubt they're all just "curious non-political"

people!

[uponit7771]

249. ...and the Bush admin would LOVE for us to believe ANYTHING they say....

[uponit7771]

258. They're are looking at the timing and NOW it looks like a bigger story....

[PM7nj]

250. State Department: We're clueless.

[NashVegas]

251. Still Think That Wiretap on Spitzer Was Perfectly Legal?

Anyone?

Can we impeach W now?

[K Gardner]

256. I never thought the Spitzer thing was 'kosher'. Not excusing what he did, but hell fire..

[thewiseguy]

253. One mid level State department employee involved! per CNN

[slinkerwink]

264. not so low-level, eh?

[thewiseguy]

265. No- That is according to the State Department spokesman

McCormack said two of the contractors in the Obama case were "low-level" personnel and the other was in a mid-level position with no management role.

I guess the mid-level position employee also did not know any better and wanted to get fired!

[surfermaw]

260. Clintons went through the same thing.. under Bush

FLASHBACK: A senior State Department official under George H. W. Bush breached Bill Clinton's passport information and was forced to resign in 1992. Read about it here.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/20/obama-passport-breached-_n_92668.html

[uponit7771]

267. yeap

[RepublicanElephant]

268. looks like THREE different snoopers were busted.

some kind of spying network thing here?

[high density]

272. Countdown is back for another hour live

wow. This new schedule came just in time. :)

[loveangelc]

273. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. I CANNOT BELIEVETHIS, THIS IS POTENTIALLY ILLEGAL.

[Bullet1987]

274. Breaking on Anderson Cooper...

[AllexxisF1]

277. This is not gross mis management.

Absolutely positively three seperate people do not make the mistake after 2 major primaries and one soon to be one.

Eagleberger of course is going to make this look like nothing happened just like he did when it happened to Clinton.


This is simply unbelievable and you can bet your ASS that Faux News, RNC and everyone else under the sun would want that file more than anything considering that it has everything about Obama's travel since he was 7!


Congress seriously needs to open hearing tomorrow to look into this and drag all of their asses in NOW!

This whole bullshit (like Hillary44 is spewing) about how there is nothing to see here move along is ABSOLUTE COMPLETE BULLSHIT. The Manager involved had NO RIGHT to hold his own investigation and not report it to his superiors and just dismiss two employees.

This stinks to high heaven and you can bet your ass the media is not going to let this one go....this screams of Watergate.

[uponit7771]

279. The timing of the "breaches" is what is making news right now

[apocalypsehow]

284. I keep wondering who might desperately want such info, and three letters keep coming to me: HRC.

n/t.

[slinkerwink]

286. Schuster saying it's clear state didn't do any investigation on people involved

[slinkerwink]

287. Keith O asking very good questions

[slinkerwink]

288. Schuster said state dept failed in not having breaches investigated

by the inspector general.

[slinkerwink]

289. FBI didn't investigate either

[AntiFascist]

290. pssssssstt............

maybe some of the Obama campaign money could be put to good use by 'securing' a whistleblower. This would be doing a great service to our nation by exposing more (perhaps the final straw) about this criminal administration.

[uponit7771]

291. FAUX news stays on REV Wright while a near WaterGate story breaks!! WTF!! If you can't tell...

...this news channels is state controlled by now then you have not been paying attention

[slinkerwink]

292. Keith O still carrying the story

[futureliveshere]

294. Obama's SSN is now in public domain

There is something fishy here. I don't know what, but this whole thing stinks!! What if someone uses his SSN and abuses his ID, buys/does something immoral. Then that news blows out into another controversy. Then what? Is that even possible? His SSN was in the passport file in case someone is wondering.

:mad: :mad:

[slinkerwink]

295. I know, and that makes me mad as well!

[angie_love]

300. anyone know KO's email? We should all email this to him

to let him know its possible.

[Vinca]

304. Curious timing for the revelation of this.

Just when we were discussing Hillary's "experience" as gleaned from her schedules.

[subsuelo]

305. Who found out about this first?

Saw on the news something about a journalist first brought it up... whats the story behind that?

[Scurrilous]

306. K & R

:thumbsup: