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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:28 PM
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This is what George HW Bush did to Bill Clinton in Passportgate
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 07:51 PM by seafan
RE: Improper access of passport files of Barack Obama by contract employees at the STATE DEPARTMENT, Bureau of Consular Affairs, taking place in January, 2008 (per Olberman)


2 fired over Obama passport file breach, March 20, 2008


Is this a repeat of Bush II, just like his daddy, in rummaging through Obama's passport?? David Schuster said that the Bush Administration has known about this since JANUARY. And Obama's people just found out about it today, 2.5 months later!


This is a political hit expedition. There should be NO DOUBT that this is opposition research to find anything to bring the Barack Obama campaign to a halt.



Robert Parry


.....

In 1992 when Clinton – as Arkansas governor – sought the White House, then-President Bush encouraged his subordinates to find a “silver bullet” that would kill off Clinton’s presidential hopes.

The senior Bush later acknowledged to FBI investigators that he was “nagging” his aides to push for more information about Bill Clinton’s student travels to the Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia and about right-wing rumors that Clinton had sought to renounce his U.S. citizenship.

“Hypothetically speaking, President Bush advised that he would not have directed anyone to investigate the possibility that Clinton had renounced his citizenship because he would have relied on others to make this decision,” according to an FBI report on its interview with the elder Bush. “He would have said something like, ‘Let’s get it out’ or ‘Hope the truth gets out.’”

With such high-level urging, White House chief of staff James Baker instructed his aide, Janet Mullins, to ask Steven Berry, assistant secretary of state for legislative affairs, about progress on right-wing press requests for information about Clinton’s student travel.

Eventually, the White House interest was communicated to State Department official Elizabeth Tamposi, a Bush political appointee who saw it as a green light to move ahead with the legally questionable search.

On the night of Sept. 30, 1992, Tamposi dispatched three aides to the federal records center in Suitland, Maryland, where they searched Clinton’s passport file as well as his mother’s, presumably because they thought it might contain some references to Clinton.

In a later press interview, Tamposi asserted that she ordered the search after Berry had pressured her to “dig up dirt on Clinton” for the Bush White House.

Press Leak

Though finding no letter renouncing citizenship, the State Department officials still made use of Clinton’s passport application, which had staple holes and a slight tear in the corner.

The tear was easily explained by the routine practice of stapling a photo or money order to the application, but Tamposi seized on the ripped page to justify a new suspicion, that a Clinton ally at the State Department had removed the renunciation letter.

Tamposi shaped that speculation into a criminal referral which was forwarded to the Justice Department. Thin as the case was, George H.W. Bush’s reelection campaign had its official action so the renunciation rumor could be turned into a public issue.

Within hours of the criminal referral, someone from the Bush camp leaked word about the confidential FBI investigation to reporters at Newsweek magazine.

The Newsweek story about the tampering investigation hit the newsstands on Oct. 4, 1992. The article suggested that a Clinton backer might have removed incriminating material from Clinton’s passport file, precisely the spin that the Bush people wanted.

Immediately, President George H.W. Bush took the offensive, using the press frenzy over the tampering story to attack Clinton’s patriotism on a variety of fronts, including his student trip to Moscow in 1970. With his patriotism challenged, Clinton saw his once-formidable lead shrink.

Clinton’s campaign ultimately was saved by quick-thinking Democrats on Capitol Hill who exposed the passport leak as a political dirty trick. That forced the elder Bush into a quasi-apology for the scandal, which became known as “Passport-gate.”

After Clinton won the election, however, the criminality of the dirty trick was swept under the rug by Republican special prosecutor Joseph DiGenova, who was appointed to investigate by a federal judicial panel run by right-wing appellate judge David Sentelle.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:30 PM
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1. I hope this too is exposed as a political dirty trick; thanks for finding this. nt
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:31 PM
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3. -- from Nov. 1992:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:14 AM
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16. i'm reading the comments to your link and found this one interesting:
"Has anyone noticed that the date of the second offense was just 3 days before Drudge released the photo of Obama in Kenya? And that at the time, the Obama camp said very, very few people had access to that photo? Could that photo have been in the file? Anyone?

Posted by: Mj at March 20, 2008 8:58 PM "
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:20 AM
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19. Anyone who thinks 'pukes won't do everything necessary to achieve their agenda might be a tad naive
:D
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:31 PM
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2. It's Deja Vu All Over Again
K&R
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:37 PM
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4. To the greatest.
Thanks!
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:38 PM
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5. State Dept just "matter of factly" called Obama's people about this today.
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 07:47 PM by seafan
Keith and Fineman:


There are DATES! 2008: Jan 9, Feb 21, March 14 of unauthorized access

This involves years of biographical information about Obama and his family, as they have lived in many countries over many years. Three different people on three different occasions did this. Who were they, who did they talk to, what were they seeking? They were intrigued by this rising star Obama.


Dates of unauthorized snooping:

Jan 9--- Obama rocketing to top in Iowa and after NH

Feb 21---after Super Tuesday, with Obama's many wins

March 14---Just last WEEK!!!



Can't imagine that RICE didn't know about this. If she didn't, what does that say about HER??




Why was this kept from Senator Obama??? How can they say this is NOT political??



This is a tremendous story.

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:23 AM
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17. march 14
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barack-obama/on-my-faith-and-my-church_b_91623.html

"The pastor of my church, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who recently preached his last sermon and is in the process of retiring, has touched off a firestorm over the last few days. He's drawn attention as the result of some inflammatory and appalling remarks he made about our country, our politics, and my political opponents.

"Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue."

--more at link

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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:45 PM
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6. Olberman: There was NO INVESTIGATION in January when it occurred.
This was NOT REFERRED to DOJ. "It was decided not to refer to DOJ, because the IG was "satisfied" with what the contract employees had told him."


Lord Almighty, do we need a Justice Department. But it is corrupt too.


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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:08 PM
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7. Let's don't hold our breath waiting for Mukasey to start an investigation.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:13 PM
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8. The Bushes, father and son, are capable of anything
I wouldn't be surprised if both transgressions against the passport files of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama weren't orchestrated by Bushes. In fact, I think the Bushes would be embarrassed if an opportunity to pull a political dirty trick went by and they didn't exploit it. They pride themselves on utter sleaze.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:19 PM
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9. Wolfowitz is back at State. What are John Bolton, Roger Stone, David Addington up to these days?
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 08:52 PM by seafan
And Marc Grossman?

And why is the State Dept just now calling for the IG to investigate??


I'm sure Rice will say 'no one could have imagined...'


Dan Abrams just said the IG "just learned about this TODAY"! What in the HELL IS GOING ON!!!


From the State Dept conference call: Sean McCormack "admitting that they failed."

( This means that they knew that a presidential candidate's passport was breached and they did nothing!)

DiGenova: And there were 3 incidents, not one! Indicates a conscious effort to suppress this information. These are electronic files and could be sent anywhere.

Schuster: Based on the statements of the immediate supervisors of these contract employees, the decision was made NOT to investigate. The higher echelons didn't make that decision! Just the immediate office supervisors of these contract employees made the decision!


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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:23 PM
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10. Siegleman, Spitzer, now Obama. n/t
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:01 PM
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11. There is no State Dept IG because *Cookie* Krongard left the position months ago.
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 10:09 PM by seafan
As I recall, he left under a cloud of conflict of interest ties with Blackwater.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:02 PM
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12. Today it hit me that Obama is being stalked.
The Clinton and McCain campaign put out coordinated attacks and now this.

These people really will do anything.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:03 PM
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13. So did Hillary do this, or was it the Bush Administration?
?
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:19 PM
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15.  *Too early to call*--->See post 14
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:17 PM
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14. Schuster just said that one of the people involved in the breach has a tie to Clinton Administration
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 10:36 PM by seafan
On Olberman just before he signed off:


Maura Harty. She will be debriefed tomorrow. She was ambassador to PARAGUAY under Clinton Administration.


U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs Maura Harty addresses the media in New Delhi on October 10, 2007. Ms. Harty said the U.S. approach is to be vigilant in securing its borders, while at the same time maintaining its traditional welcome for international travelers. Seated next to Ms. Harty is U.S. Embassy Consul General Peter G. Kaestner.



See this thread

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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:24 AM
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18. Her name is so much like Mata Hari
Mata Hari was the stage name of Margaretha Geertruida (Grietje) Zelle (7 August 1876, Leeuwarden, The Netherlands – 15 October 1917, Vincennes, France), a Dutch exotic dancer and courtesan who was executed by firing squad for espionage during World War I.<1>



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mata_Hari
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