Keith Olbermann needs to get a freaking grip!

[jlake]

"This could blow up into something as big as Watergate"
"How fast can congress begin investigations?"

Obama's passport file was breached.... okay, it's a story but come on!
He really needs to calm the fuck down....

[CatWoman]

1. it appears that you fail to grasp the seriousness of this situation

[jlake]

5. No, I don't. It's an issue.... but it happens all the time. To Bill Clinton.... and ME!

[LSparkle]

11. Considering your personal experience, I'm shocked that you're not more concerned

Guess you think Big Brother government is AOK.

[JVS]

13. Your passport file is constantly breached?

Do tell!

[joeybee12]

Who said constantly?

This could be a serious issue, but from the looks of what happened, it was a breach and supervisors were noted immediately.

[JVS]

35. jlake said "It's an issue.... but it happens all the time. To Bill Clinton.... and ME!"

so I want to know about this happening all the time to Jlake.

[jlake]

60. all the time as in regularly. As far as we know, Obama's file was breached 3 times.

[Kool Kitty]

126. Why would they want to breach your passport file

repeatedly?

[jlake]

130. I guess I'm not expressing my point clearly. People's passport files are inappropriately

accessed on a regular basis. Mine was inappropriately accessed 1 time that I am aware of.
I am not saying that mine is breached "all the time" but that it happens "all the time" to different people.

[Life Long Dem]

151. Let me express my point. The fact that Obama wasn't told till today raises a lot of suspicion.

[jlake]

154. And that has nothing to do with this sub-thread.

[Life Long Dem]

158. It has everting to do with the issue.

Hillary looks guilty. I want to here what Hillary would do about security breaches with the White House. Or is she going to sit silently all guilty.

[jlake]

162. OMG you are completely nuts. Blaming Hillary for this with NO evidence?

Please start an OP expressing this opinion.

[Life Long Dem]

164. This is not a coincidence in the middle of an election with Obama in the race.

Here's a tip. Don't get into law enforcement to do detective work. You wouldn't know where to put yur suspicions.

[jlake]

165. Here's a tip: Don't go into law. You wouldn't cut it.

You'd be sued for malpractice and disbarred within a week.

[Life Long Dem]

170. Why at this time? Check this out and tell me you have no suspicion?

"The security breach has echoes of other Republican dirty tricks operations. Mr Obama's confidential files were first accessed after he defeated Hillary Clinton in the Iowa caucus at the beginning of January."

[jlake]

175. My suspicion is that the Bush admin is behind it -- and they are probably

accessing other files of Mr. Obama's as well as Hillary and Bill - that is where my suspicion would first land.

[Life Long Dem]

183. Me too. :-)

[Life Long Dem]

179. I can have as many suspects as I want.

And Your putting words in my mouth. I said Hillary LOOKS guilty, not she IS guilty. So relax. Jeez.

[Kool Kitty]

194. I getcha.

It's still wrong.

[Debi]

44. Three seperate times in the last 90 days and Obama was just notified

When would like to be informed that your private records were breached? When it happens or just some time down the road?

[rodeodance]

143. it took them 6 months to tell me. yes it did.

[Debi]

159. Were you a United States Senator running for President at the time

and had just had your privacy breached three times in 90 days?

Amazing how all these Hillary Clinton supporters suffered the same fate - any Obama folks have this happen to them?

[rodeodance]

168. I am not making light of this so stop lecturing me please.

[Debi]

173. Was I lecturing?

You decided to respond to a post of mine (that wasn't directed at you or a question of you) and I asked you a question. It's okay if you don't know the answer. I understand.

[rodeodance]

178. It was rude and lecture like. and yes i reponded. You had

include a diss on all Hillary supporters.

It was unnecessary. and rude.

[Debi]

184. Thank you for admitting you were rude.

I accept your apology.

[rodeodance]

190. I did not apologize to you. get a grip

[Debi]

191. Ha hahahahah you edited your post

:rofl:

I still accept your original apology :hi: Have a nice night.

[VolcanoJen]

172. I've had a passport since 1983.

And, no.

What an odd coincidence that it happens that so many posters on this thread have had their passport files breached and yet it's the first time I've heard of it.

Guess it happens to everyone. Everybody does it. The people that poked around Obama's files were just over-zealous curious staffers.

Why am I getting that uncomfortable deja vu feeling?

[Debi]

180. Hmmmmmm

My husband just asked if this reminded me of a 3rd rate burglary. I told him that this is NOTHING like Watergate b/c the Clinton supporters on DU told me so!

OMG - did I just hear Keith say 'playing grab-ass....'? :rofl:

[americanstranger]

48. Why was Obama not notified until today?

Can you say cover-up?

This is serious beyond it being about a presidential candidate. Far beyond that.

- as

[jlake]

36. One time that I am aware of.

[Ichingcarpenter]

Prove it !!

[cali]

15. you are full of it.

First of all, it was a big story when it happened to Clinton, and secondly I don't for one minute believe that state dept employees illegally riffed through your passport.

[jlake]

40. Darling, was it as big as Watergate? NO - and that is what Keith Olbermann is

shouting. And yes, my passport file was "inappropriately reviewed" in 2004.

[Name removed]

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[jlake]

69. I sincerely hope you're kidding.

If not, you need to seek immediate mental help.

[Adams Wulff]

81. Welcome to our world, jlake. n/t

[jlake]

88. I don't accuse people of being sexist unless it is clearly the case.

Cali and I have a running thing of calling each other by stupid nicknames.

[NanBo]

122. Darling???

Last person I heard use that term to a stranger was a redneck thug informing a friend she didn't have 'the right' to be where she was. Softens up the insult, don'tcha know. Spit.

[Medusa]

16. And how would you know your passport file had been hacked?

exactly? :wtf:

[roguevalley]

127. you don't get it. this is the basis for what led to watergate. If this is

connected to a political operative, shit hits the fan and we're back in the 1970's again. Since no one knows if it is yet, and in the end we will know, you cannot discount it just because you want to. This is a bad, big, awful thing and for those of us with memories, it is deja vu all over again.

[joeybee12]

23. It could just be something as somebody being very nosy...

...from what I read, it sounds like that as soon as the records were accessed, a trigger notified the supervisors of the breach. KO and the Bots are acting like this goes to the highest levels of government, explains all the so-called dirty tricks against their Jesus, and so forth. Happened to Bill Clinton's records also.

[kstewart33]

37. Why did they wait two months to tell Obama when

immediate notification is the norm?

And you don't think this is fishy? I'm not the conspiracy type, but something is very amiss here and KO is simply stating the fact.

[musette_sf]

2. if you are old enough to remember

the Watergate hearings, then you know that this DEFINITELY could be as big as Watergate.

[Seeker30]

42. Oh bullshit

Some employee looking out of curiosity at a passport file is not the same thing as watergate..

[wolfgirl]

58. And watergate started out

simply as a burglary. I reserve my judgment as to just how serious this situation is. With that said, there should be an investigation - an independent investigation to assure that this is simply what the State Dept. says - a case of some nosy contractors.

Unfortunately, without an independent investigation, how do you know this is not something more?

I'm just saying.....

Peace!

[Seeker30]

67. They are already saying no investigation, done out of curiosity

A lot different than a President spying on his rival.

[musette_sf]

106. and you believe "they"?

i think i can assume from your avatar that you do not remember the unfolding of the Watergate scandal. Family Guy is definitely for ppl born a bit after my time.

[VolcanoJen]

181. "Over-zealous curious staffers."

From which Current Administration have I heard that line dragged out in defense ad nauseum before?

[thewiseguy]

3. Why are you so angry about this? McCain's ass could be on the line here

[jlake]

10. I'm not angry -- KO is just outrageous. His histrionics are out of control.

[thewiseguy]

17. No, this is Watergate was all about. This is a very serious story.

3 breaches? Going back into 70s? Started soon after Obama won Iowa?

[LSparkle]

18. He's not the only one covering it -- all 3 cable news channels are

:eyes:

[jlake]

77. OMG you are completely missing the point. Now Dan Abrahms is covering it.... in an

APPROPRIATE and RESPONSIBLE way. FACTS not Drama.

[cali]

22. you're freaked out because it's not all about Wright.

tough for you, babes.

[jlake]

32. Yeah, because Keith has really been all over Obama for Wright.... Keith is as bad as Rush

in his blatant bias and histrionics.

[monmouth]

107. Haha, the good Reverend has left the building...forevah!!..n/t

[bellasgrams]

167. Nope what the Rev did is not forgettable or forgivable. What's

with you folks that can so easily disspell remarks like God Damn America and hate whitie? If Hillary's camp had someone say that they would be crucified.

[VolcanoJen]

187. Do people really say "whitey" anymore?

I mean, unless it's in a Chris Rock bit, that seems incredibly archaic to me.

And why am I responding to a "whitey" thread in a "Bush Administration Officials Breached Obama Passport Files Repeatedly" thread?

Are we not all on the same side, really, even just a little bit?

[LSparkle]

56. It's called righteous indignation ... the latest in a series of misdeeds

He, like many of us, ARE outraged by yet another overreach by this gang.

[still_one]

4. This is extremely important, it is what Watergate was all about

Do you remember Nixon's enemies list?

If this can happen to Obama, don't doubt for a second that it isn't happening to Clinton

[Cooley Hurd]

6. Another brainiac supporter of Senator Clinton...

You DO realize that the first Bush admin did the SAME thing to (then) Gov. Clinton in 1992. Did you poopoo that, too?:eyes:

[jlake]

63. I'm not dismissing the story - just mentioning Keith is imprudent to exclaim

this as big as Watergate the moment the story breaks.

[LSparkle]

7. I'm sure you were just as unconcerned with Bill C's passport file was hacked

in 1991-1992. It prompted a Special Prosecutor investigation then and should now.
What on earth makes you trust that the BFEE WEREN'T making mischief in this case?
I'd have given Poppy the benefit of the doubt but not his lying ass son.

[cali]

8. afraid that this will blow

the Wright thing out of the water, aren't you? And hell, it could even produce sympathy for Obama and boost him. heehee.

[jlake]

20. No, get yourself to a TV and tell me you don't agree about KO.... he is as giddy

as I've ever seen a "news person".

[grantcart]

9. It was big news when it happened to Clinton

[jlake]

12. Was it as big as Watergate?

:eyes:

[LSparkle]

28. No, but Watergate wasn't preceded by the kinds of crimes BFEE has committed

This could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

[grantcart]

29. do you ever ask an intelligent question?

[grantcart]

45. actually this is a good example of how you overstate things and ruin your point

This probably is not going to be a very big deal, probably just curiousity. But you overstate your point - like the 100% sure that the guy who has a huge delegate lead is not going to be the nominee and oh by the way



NO IT IS NOT QUITE AS BIG AS WATERGATE ALMOST BUT JUST A HAIR LESS LOL

[jlake]

101. Olbermann is the one claiming it is as big as Watergate.... that's my whole point.

That's why I am questioning his ability to be a reliable source of information.

[grantcart]

174. actually you are right this is alot of excitement for what will almost

certainly be a very funny story about 3 entry level guys who just got too curious. If John Lennon were alive they would have peaked in there.

[annie1]

54. i don't remember it. never even knew it happened.

[Mike Nelson]

14. The Bush/Chaney crew has committed far worse crimes...

They get away with them all.

[joshcryer]

19. What's interesting is that this happened back in Jan.

Is it true Obama's own people broke the story? Saving one last controversy in their pocket? They spent it too soon if you ask me.

[LSparkle]

33. Obama's office was advised about this TODAY ...

THEY haven't been sitting on it -- the STATE DEPT. were sitting on it and only
advised them TODAY that something had happened.

[Debi]

59. January 9th, February 23rd and March 14th and Obama was just told about it

Guess the federal government was too busy to tell him about it?

[liberalmuse]

21. Read your Constitution, PLEASE. This is very serious.

And Keith, keep on doing what you're doing, baby. Expose the bastards every chance you get!

[jlake]

26. His histrionics without any evidence or facts are utterly irresponsible. END OF STORY.

[Generic Brad]

64. Is histrionics the word of the day?

[jlake]

72. When discussing Keith Olbermann it is.

[book_worm]

24. I wonder what your reaction would be if it were Hill's file breached?

this shouldn't be a political issue dividing us on DU but I see some HRC supporters can't get over their dislike of Obama to understand how serious this is.

[jlake]

53. It is a big issue -- my post is not meant to dismiss that.

My post is about Keith Olbermann's dramatic flair and personal glee at any story that could possibly help "the chosen one".

[Name removed]

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[jlake]

30. He is a major drama queen. You are being played by Obama's campaign.

[cali]

38. wait a minute. now you're blaming Obama for his passport info

being breached. Get a grip. You're losing touch with reality.

[jlake]

41. I doubt he just became aware of this.

The timing is very suspicious. Someone is manipulating the news.... as usual.

[BeatleBoot]

52. It keeps this out of the news....

http://www.hinessight.com/

[VolcanoJen]

189. So that site points to the blog defending Trinity.

What part of it bugs you more, the photo of Bill Clinton with Rev. Wright, or the picture of Corpsman Wright attending to LBJ's hospital bed?

Is it really "newsworthy" that a member of the Trinity congregation got pissed and started a (pretty fascinating) blog?

[book_worm]

55. Obviously this thread is proving just what a tool of the Hillary campaign you are

if you can't see the seriousness of it and you think the timing is suspicious as if some way the Obama campaign is behind this. You know you would be whistling a different tune if it were Hillary and seeing how much you dislike Obama you would probably be pointing fingers at his campaign instead of the GOP.

[MaineDem]

110. State Dept said they just notified Obama's office today

You lose on this point.

[cali]

129. That's as jackass stupid as those insinuating that Hill had anything

to do with this. As I said, get a grip. You're way out there in the delusional ozone

[jlake]

193. You are with some of the treatment and accusations you throw around....

I expect better of one of the pillars of our community.... for shame!

[Middle finga]

43. And you are being played by Hillary's Campaign...

And if you don't like what KO is covering, turn to Fox News.

[LSparkle]

46. OK, let me get this straight -- why do you think this ISN'T a big deal?

Considering this is the BFEE we're talking about -- the same lame crew that
HRC likes to rail against when it suits her politically -- WHY is it that
you think Obama's campaign should just turn a blind eye to this intrusion?

I just don't fucking get it -- even misdeeds of the Bush Gang are LESS of
an issue than whether this changes the subject away from Pastorgate? If
you're wondering why the Clinton campaign is so disliked, you should look
at your reaction. It's more important to get to the bottom of what happened
here than it is to play another loop of Rev. Wright or the latest poll that
may benefit your candidate.

:argh:

[jlake]

50. I don't think there is any justification for claiming it's as big as Watergate.

[LSparkle]

61. It may not end up being but it IS serious

and worthy of a little extra coverage tonight.

[jlake]

66. And my post isn't questioning coverage.... it is questioning Keith's histrionics.

[cali]

31. hey, who the fuck are you to call jlake an asshole?

and it's against DU rules.

[Tatiana]

27. It was breached THREE SEPARATE TIMES by THREE SEPARATE INDIVIDUALS.

Somebody is digging.

Who?

[jlake]

47. Yeah, WHO? and why are we finding out today..... I wonder who else's passport file was breached?

[MaineDem]

115. Good question - why is the State Dept just announcing this?

What have they been hiding? Why blame Keith and Obama? It's the State Department that's at fault here.

This transcends our primary politic. Clinton people should be as upset as anyone.

[jlake]

119. Please read my OP. I am NOT blaming Obama - and I am NOT blaming

Keith for the story.

What I am doing is expressing dismay that Keith is overly-dramatic. Which hurts ALL of our credibility.
Keith declared this "as big as Watergate" that is a completely irresponsibe thing to do at this point in time.

The FACTS of the story are upsetting, and you know what? I'll bet we find out that Hillary's records have been breached as well.... This post was about KO's overly dramatic "reporting".

[Medusa]

177. "Hurts all of our credibility"?

How exactly? If it turns out not to be that big of a deal, then it hurts Olbermann's credibility but it doesn't hurt MINE. And I fail to see how it hurts YOURS. I wasn't aware that we know how to be responsible for whatever one of these cable guys said. If that's the case, we're all fucked.

[jlake]

186. It hurts the credibility of anyone questioning power when there are people

spouting off charges and accusations with no evidence.

[Kelvin Mace]

34. No, he is absolutely correct

This is a major breach and has very large ramifications if the breach was at the direction of the GOP.

[Debi]

39. January 9th, February 23rd and March 14th and Obama was just informed of it

Two people fired and one person disciplined (private contract workers).

This is a HUGE breach of his privacy - not just once but THREE TIMES.

If you can't cope just change the channel and don't worry about the breach. What's a little civil liberties violation anyway?

[neverforget]

49. It's a big deal when it happened to Bill Clinton in 92 but it's not now?

Is that because it's not your candidate?

[jlake]

51. Was it "as big as Watergate" when it happened to Bill Clinton?

[neverforget]

80. It's a big deal when the Party in the White House snoops into the files

of the other party. This may be the tip of the iceberg for dirty tricks and it might not be.

[jlake]

85. I'm sure it is the tip of the iceburg.... but it is completely irresponsible for a newsman

to report a breaking story as "as big as watergate" with no facts to back up that claim.

[neverforget]

91. I know you don't like Olberman, but would you say the same thing if

it happened to Hillary? He's not really a newsman but more of a commentator.

[jlake]

94. Yes. I am not dismissing the story - I am calling Olbermann out on his

extreme exaggeration and irresponsible statements.

I hope this IS as big as Watergate and brings down the Bush administration.

Though it is completely irresponsible to say that it "Is as big as Watergate" at this point in time - and does nothing to help the credibility of *anyone* questioning the administration.

[MaineDem]

117. A special prosecutor was named. This hasn't even been sent to the Inspector General yet. n/t

[annie1]

57. it's how they get bigger ratings.

[MediaBabe]

62. What does that mean?

What's in a passport file? What does breached mean? Did some one look at the info there? What's there besides when it was applied for, issued and where a person has been? I'm really naive I guess about this issue at least but I don't know why this would be "as big as Watergate" at all. To me it seems like nosy people doing what nosy people do and did you say they were fired for it?

[dionysus]

68. i think YOU need to get a grip

[TheWraith]

70. You just can't resist ANY attempt to attack anything related to Obama, can you? nt

[Major Hogwash]

71. Obama is a sitting Senator!!!! If this had happened to your dear, dear Hillary, you'd be glad for KO

But the hypocrisy never ceases here where you can trash Obama daily!!

[jlake]

82. It probably has happened to Hillary.

And Keith Olbermann would probably suggest that she and Bill arranged it for political gain.

Keith is as biased as Rush Limbaugh.

[Major Hogwash]

95. Hahahahhaha! Now I know why you're here!

To cry when Hillary drops out of the race!!!

Keith is the only one telling the truth about Hillary being a fucking racist!!!!

[KAZ]

73. "It's a story", and your no Democrat.

[jlake]

79. Learn some freaking grammar.

I am a Democrat & I am not dismissing the story.
I am questioning why Keith is so irresponsible in his reporting and such a drama queen with his remarks.

[FARAFIELD]

74. HAHAHA HIllary Bots

Cant stand it when people look into her past (I couldnt stand it either) But when they do to OBAMA its no big deal, you guys are such losers

[jlake]

134. WTF are you talking about? Did you even read my OP?

[PoliticalAmazon]

75. Don't worry about Olberman...

Let's see...Tucker Carlson got canned from MSNBC and Olberman's show is at a better timeslot (PST) now AND Olberman is pretty much in charge of the primary election coverage.

I wouldn't worry about Olberman if I was you. He seems to have pretty good judgment.

[Botany]

76. You have no shame

It is Keith Olbermann's fault for reporting the news?

He got the best people he could to give the facts and
the most recent news on this issue and did all this w/
less than an hour to air to put it together and you complain.

[jlake]

78. He's responsible for his dramatic statements that have no basis in fact.

[Botany]

83. Name one statement that Keith made tonight that was not fact based.

Keith did a hell of job tonight ..... hell he gave out reporting
assignments to people on air as the story was breaking.

[jlake]

87. "This is as big as Watergate"

Not factual in the least... pure speculation and histrionics.

[Botany]

97. The current republican white house looking through private files .....

..... (which are protected by law) of the man who will be the Democratic
nominee for President of the United States is a very big story.

[jlake]

98. There is no evidence that the White House is looking through the files... and

there is NO WAY that any sane person can assess this story as "As Big as Watergate" the moment it breaks....

[Botany]

103. To think that Condi Rice did not know about this is silly.

And to think she did not tell her boss, W, is silly too.

[jlake]

105. Link? Without proof it is a completely irresponsible statement for Keith to

make on tv.... and diminishes his credibility.

[Botany]

109. Keith Olbermann has earned his cedibility time after time.

as for you .... your motives are clear.

Good Bye

[Rockholm]

84. Sounds like a big deal to me.

I REALLY hope that Bush is involved.

[jlake]

90. As do I. But the point is that it is irresponsible to claim this is "As big as Watergate"

at this time... Keith needs to be a bit more professional.

[madrchsod]

86. so it`s ok for the government to do this.....really?

oh wait, it was obama that it happened to not hillary, so i guess it`s ok with you

[jlake]

89. No, it's not okay.... did you read my post? I am questioning Keith Olbermann's ability

to factually address an issue. Claiming it is "as big as Watergate" is completely outrageous with no facts in.

[KAZ]

93. Because it's a big fucking deal! It was in '91, and it is now.

Take off your partisan glasses.

Did I spell well enough for you?

[jlake]

96. Was '91 "As big as Watergate"?

[KAZ]

114. It was in my book. Because Joe Deguava(sp) whitewashed it..

.. doesn't mean that it didn't do significant damage to Bill.

[RichGirl]

I agree with you all the way around.

I remember Watergate....it was BIG. I mean daily hearings pre-empting soaps big. I honestly didn't know that Bill Clinton's passport was hacked into....so I guess it wasn't so big. Maybe I was busy that day and didn't turn on the TV.

As for olbermann....I've stopped watching him. I'm a Clinton supporter but I do like and respect Obama. If Olbermann were a Clinton supporter and constantly slamming Obama, I'd hate it just as much. Anybody who so blatantly and unfairly bashes a democratic candidate, ANY democratic candidate, is hurting the party. It will be very interesting to see what Keith does with his show if Clinton wins the nomination. His show will have to be a full hour of oddball (the most annoying thing on TV) and celebrity news.

[madrchsod]

99. opps...i doubt it is as bad as watergate

but we do not know the extent of the problem...it`s was`t the break in it was the cover-up. i`ll pay more attention in the future...

[havocmom]

92. Contract employees getting into official records they have no business getting into

KO is right to be making a big fuss. It is an outrage and a security breach that should never happen.

Who do those 'contract' employees really answer too? Do they look forward to a lucrative job with some company who stands to benefit if Obama does not get elected? Could there POSSIBLY be reason sensitive and lawfully privileged information would be a marketable commodity? YOU BET YOUR ASS; a whole lot of reasons. And Obama just now finds out about this breach? There should be a LOT of shit heading for a fan!

The breach of sensitive records (by a CONTRACT employee) regarding the travels of a US Senator who is running for President is not same ol same ol. What damage could be done by releasing any visa requests the Senator may have pending if the info falls into the hands of people who would do him harm? It is fucking serious.

No matter what has been done to, said about, insinuated or flat at lied about Obama, somebody around here has some flipping excuse or thinks it should be blown off, and all those who pooh-pooh these strange occurrences seem to be supporters of the other candidate. One HAS to wonder at what travesty you would finally be outraged.

I know you are important to you, and maybe even a few other people, but frankly, IT IS NOT THE SAME as someone taking a lookie at where YOU'VE been (if that really happened) as outrageous as that would be. Unless you are Hillary Clinton, or John McCain, it most certainly NOT the same.

[Divine Discontent]

100. Ignorefest 2008 or "The Night The Hillary Backers Jumped The Shark"

SO many Hillary backers on here are freaking OUT over this headline on Obama, that I'm introducing many of them finally to the ignore feature. Calm down folks, it's not like Hillary had much of a chance anyway, but several of you are acting like this is a boon for Obama - if it is whatever, but the bigger story is his friggin info was hacked multiple times at Condi Department USA!

[Barack_America]

102. Ever hear of Watergate?

1. It's a BREAKING story and that's how they are treated.

2. It's possible evidence of the GOP attempting to tamper with a possible Democratic nominee.

3. They sat on the information for MONTHS.

This is at least as big as the Valerie Plame story and look at the coverage that got.

[jlake]

104. Not another soul on TV or radio has declared this "As big as Watergate"

Possible evidence and facts are accepted.... and you know what, I hope this is as big as Watergate.... but at this point in time, it is not a responsible statement to make.

[Barack_America]

113. I didn't declare it to be anything. I'm just pointing out this is how Watergate began.

There are definite similarities. Compromised information. Either a failure to report or a willful attempt to coverup.

This could become a devastating story. So, should Olbermann be faulted for spending nearly the entire hour on it? Absolutely not.

[jlake]

116. But my point is that Keith Olbermann DID declare this was "as big as Watergate"

That is the entire point of my OP... Keith needs to get a grip.

[rainbow4321]

118. I imagine the NIGHT that the Watergate break-in news went public

people probably skimmed over the news as well without raising an eyebrow, also. Talk to us in a few days/weeks/months when more facts come out about this crime. We're about, what, 30 minutes into passportgate right now...

[jlake]

121. You are completely missing the point.

If this becomes as big as Watergate or not --- Keith Olbermann was IRRESPONSIBLE in declaring "This is a big as Watergate" as the story breaks.

[musette_sf]

123. wait till tomorrow

Mr. Short Attention Span.

it was breaking news just scant minutes after 5PM EDT...

KO is the only major national newscast with lead time enough to do a story after the News Dump Witching Hour The Day Before A Semi-Holiday (i.e., 5PM EDT on Holy Thursday)...

pretty intellectually dishonest to say "not another soul on TV or radio" etc etc etc.

[jlake]

128. Why do you think it is responsible for KO to claim "This is as big as Watergate"

with 0 facts to back that up?

[musette_sf]

135. as i said before

if you are old enough to remember Watergate, then you wouldn't be asking that question.

[jlake]

137. Unless you and Keith have some information you're not sharing, you

are making assumptions without any facts.

[musette_sf]

141. those who refuse to learn history

doom the rest of us to your inane comments.

go read L. Patrick Grey's new book. that oughta learn ya.

[jlake]

145. So you have no evidence that the State Department is lying?

Okay then.

[musette_sf]

150. hahahahahahaha

after all, the State Department has been SO honest, forthcoming and transparent, why would they lie NOW?

[jlake]

153. I'll take that as a no. And I'm done trying to make sense out of you.

[musette_sf]

161. if you can't make sense out of KO's comments,

KO is much smarter than me, so i'm flattered.

[Iceburg]

108. LOL. Bush has been monitoring everyone's phone calls & email for 8 years!/nt

[rodeodance]

142. wonder if there is a connection?--find out it is the Feds doing this.

[jillan]

111. Is he medicated? He looks weird lately.

And froths at the mouth.

[DefenseLawyer]

112. Rev. Wright! Rev. Wright! For the love of God, get back to Rev. Wright!

[jlake]

124. Kill all the ginned up baloney. Talk about issues and hard facts.

All I'm asking.

[fuertegal]

120. Keith is very smart

Compared to other pundits on TV, Olbermann is perhaps the best.
Matthews, Russerts et. al. are just unwatchable.

[Genevieve]

140. Yes, Keith is very, very smart -- -

None of the others even come close to him . They all pale by comparison.

[slinkerwink]

125. its a big deal......can't you see that? It happened to Bill too.

[jlake]

131. You didn't read my post or you wouldn't post that.

I am not questioning the magnitude of the FACTS.
I am saying that Keith Olbermann claiming "This is as big as Watergate" is not responsible reporting.... he doesn't know that and shouldn't say it.

[jefferson_dem]

132. Seriously, Hannity? That you?

He dismissed this as "something that happens all the time" at the open of his spewfest and swiftly moved to more sleazy racialized Obama-bashing.

[jlake]

133. Read my OP. I am not diminishing the FACTS.

I am questioning KO's ability to report FACTS.

Exclaiming "This is as big as Watergate" is not responsible journalism and doesn't benefit anyone.

[musette_sf]

136. he's reporting a story

with a valid historical comparison

that is, if you're old enough to remember Watergate.

[jlake]

138. Okay, you're clearly not reality based if you think it is responsible for Keith t

to state "This is as big as Watergate" When he has NO evidence that it is anything other than the official story.

[musette_sf]

144. we'll see just how reality based it is

when KO's frequent guest John Dean has a moment to discuss this with him on Countdown. if we're lucky, tomorrow, and since it's a semi-holiday-weekend post 5PM news dump, more likely Monday.

[jlake]

147. You just aren't getting it. If it DOES become as big as Watergate it doesn't

excuse Keith's irresponsible comments tonight.

[musette_sf]

156. then go watch Hannity

i mean, if all this is getting your tighty whities in such a knot, give it a rest and switch the channel. you obviously don't know history and can't handle the truth.

[rodeodance]

139. I just found out tthey are going a *****SPECIAL EDITION--my gawd!! too much, this

is serious. but too much trivializes

[DefenseLawyer]

146. Not to worry, Your friends at Fox News are still All Wright - All the time

All is not lost!

[uponit7771]

148. It's ALREADY on the level of WaterGate!! 3 Different time 3 DIFFERENT PEOPLE!!!

[rodeodance]

149. jlake---DID KO REALLY ask these questions? (i am not watching)

"This could blow up into something as big as Watergate"
"How fast can congress begin investigations?"

[jlake]

155. Yes, but there is a 2nd (or 3rd?) Live edition on now.

Hopefully it will re-run later.

[rodeodance]

166. good grief. thanks

[AX10]

152. And Olbermann would be just as concerned if HRC's passport...

file was breached. sarcasm:

[rodeodance]

171. lucky......

i saw your sarcasem icon.

[nomatrix123]

157. History by the book or did you watch it unfold?

I'm old enough to watch the 2 years of the Nixon administration crumbling in print and by Senate hearings. I can say Keith is on the money.
It slowly unfolded, revealing all the pieces that eventually led to Nixon resigning. Amateurs to today pros.

BTW, none covering the events of that time looked AS GREAT AS KEITH!

[musette_sf]

163. welcome and thanks

for pointing out the bloody obvious...

**IF YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WATERGATE**

then you get the picture.

and no, no one DID look as great as Keith back then!!!

[better tomorrow]

160. yeah, Keith, get a grip...I know you.....

certainly can with hands like these....




Pay not attention to the ruse of the masses....Report it with as much enthusiasm as you want to. This is deplorable.

[Samantha]

169. I called my Republican brother to tell him the breaking news

as it happened. He's a big Bush* proponent. The first thing he said was that it would have been terribly stupid of the Republicans to do something like that; it would be as big a scandal as Watergate.

[jlake]

182. That would be true. But Mr. Olbermann acts as if he KNOWS that the Bush

admin is behind it.... there are no currently known facts to back up that assertion.

[girl gone mad]

176. Now you have some idea how the average person..

felt during all the Rev. Wright drama.

[jlake]

185. As I repeatedly posted, that story was ginned up as well.

I'm tired of all of the BS... issues and facts for me please.

[Clintonista2]

188. Keith went knockers a month ago

[jlake]

197. Yep. He really seems to have lost his faculties.

[Raffi Ella]

192. you took the words outta my mouth J.

Christ.He needs to remember he's supposed to be a journalist and remove the emotion.It's absolutely ridiculous how he's acting. :eyes:

[workinclasszero]

195. Was Bush responsible? Was Hillary?

Both prolly. Let the investigations commence!:popcorn:

[Auntie Bush]

196. He's all fake and is hoping to change the subject away from Wright.