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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:28 PM
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Di Genova on Abrams is trying to push blame on "big government bureauocracy"
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 08:34 PM by mod mom
but THESE WERE CONTACTORS! Has anyone else picked up on this?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:29 PM
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1. Well they were contracted to work for the government
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 08:31 PM by high density
But I mean... What the heck is he talking about, we're idiots for needing our government to have the functions in the State department? He makes no sense.

Lawrence Eagleburger is throwing up a lot of chaff... Way worse than De Genova
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:31 PM
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3. 1st impressions sometimes stick so thus the misinformation being put forward.
Abrams didn't correct them about the contractors.
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:31 PM
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4. And what else would Abrams expect
from Eagleburger and DeGenova? OMG, two of the worst of the worst.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:30 PM
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2. and lawrence eaglburger saying it's not a big deal.....
move along nothing to see here.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:31 PM
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5. How does he know it was political, because the contractor said it wasn't?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:33 PM
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8. Yes he's already come to the conclusion that there's nothing to see here
Because some low level person says there's nothing to see here.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:39 PM
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16. Why are they placing blame it on CONTRACTING OUT OF DATA!
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:40 PM
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17. I don't think they are
The problem seems to be that the "office supervisors" didn't tell their superiors. I don't think that's to be blamed on whether or not they're contractors.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:39 PM
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14. Why would people trying to find info do it *3* times when once is enough?
There's no conspiracy here.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:32 PM
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6. Eagleburger is a rude, pompous ass -- sounded like he'd had a few
He kept asking "what?" and interrupting. Couldn't POSSIBLY have been any political
intent to this ...

Yeah, right, OK ...
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:33 PM
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9. He was HORRIBLE, lol !
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:35 PM
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11. He was out of it and in total defense mode for Bush.
Oh goody. Tucker is on
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:44 PM
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20. I LOFL when he kept sayin "what!??!"...it sounded like he couldn't hear a damn thing
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:32 PM
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Yeah, Eagleburger is a lot worse than Joe was, and I'm no lover of Joe.
But he was a lot more credible than Eagleburger.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:34 PM
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10. Right....he said that what he dealt with was much worse......cause why?
Here you have 3 breaches done in a period of 70 days....one per month, by 3 separate "contractors"...who said We were just curious, and who were fired before anyone could questions them AND Obama wasn't notified until today. :wtf:

I would have hung up on Eagleburger! and that other sorry Republican fuck blaming big government.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:37 PM
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12. Uh, Clinton's situation was much worse, it was political, this is a case of contractors just being..
...curious.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:56 PM
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22. You aren't serious are you?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:32 PM
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7. Look how 'helpful' DiGenova was when this happened to Bill Clinton:
and his remark does make me wonder why he's defending this admin, though not really. He's trying to minimize this, seems to me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5181342&mesg_id=5181342

snip//

The Newsweek story about the tampering investigation hit the newsstands on Oct. 4, 1992. The article suggested that a Clinton backer might have removed incriminating material from Clinton’s passport file, precisely the spin that the Bush people wanted.

Immediately, President George H.W. Bush took the offensive, using the press frenzy over the tampering story to attack Clinton’s patriotism on a variety of fronts, including his student trip to Moscow in 1970. With his patriotism challenged, Clinton saw his once-formidable lead shrink.

Clinton’s campaign ultimately was saved by quick-thinking Democrats on Capitol Hill who exposed the passport leak as a political dirty trick. That forced the elder Bush into a quasi-apology for the scandal, which became known as “Passport-gate.”

After Clinton won the election, however, the criminality of the dirty trick was swept under the rug by Republican special prosecutor Joseph DiGenova, who was appointed to investigate by a federal judicial panel run by right-wing appellate judge David Sentelle.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:38 PM
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13. "Nothing to see here! Just idle curiosity! Nothing to see here! Look away!"
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:39 PM
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Tucker too...
Tucker was just pushing this too...
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:39 PM
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15. Bureauocracy by THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE! LOL!! This aint no accident
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:41 PM
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18. CONTRACTORS oversee the 3 different people-who gets the contracts given out by *?
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:41 PM
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19. Abrahms notes some temperal proximity to Abamas wins...
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:46 PM
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21. No, the reporters are dolts
Interesting how DiGenova and teh State Spokesman Sean McCormick had identical talking points.
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