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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:14 PM
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Dare I say it? Do we have, as of tonight, the makings of both...
...President Barack Obama AND the IMPEACHMENT of Bush**/Cheney**??

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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:15 PM
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1. I wish. On both counts.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:15 PM
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3. I hope this is the beginning of a Watergate-like scandal for Bush.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:25 PM
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12. All of Bush**'s scandals are Watergate-like. We need a Watergate-like investigation.
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:43 PM
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30. We need a Congress with some balls ...
instead of the cowering wimps we've got right now. "Go along to get along" seems to be the MO of these folks.

All they're really doing is enabling this murdering SOB to continue with his illegal war and trashing of the Bill of Rights.
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:48 PM
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34. Well said
If all it took was a watergate like scandal... Bush would have been out of office years ago!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:15 PM
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2. By The Time Any Investigation Was Complete Enough, He'd Likely Be Out Of Office.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:16 PM
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4. So screw the Constitution? We don't have time??
Wow. Just wow.

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:18 PM
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8. being out of office doesn't stop anything. he can still be gotten.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:25 PM
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11. Oh God Relax There Killer.
I'm just being honest. By the time the investigation was done enough to receive enough FACTS to even warrant an impeachment hearing, he'd probably be on the way out. That means that even with good intention, even if they were to pursue such a thing, even if it DID go down that road, by the time it got there it would likely be moot.

So please stop acting like I said it isn't even worthy of investigation. That's what your reaction seemed to portray. I want a FULL investigation on this and I want ALL the facts to come out. But your OP reference their actually being impeached, and I'm just being honest in stating that by the time the balls on this got rolling to that point, they'd likely already be packing their bags anyway. Ease up, for real.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:26 PM
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13. See below, Petunia.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:31 PM
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15. Still Doesn't Excuse Your Over Reaction To My Reply.
And personally, though to each their own, I disagree with such a mindset. I think if impeachment proceedings began AFTER they were already out of office, little would be accomplished, it would never pass in a million years, and it would be political suicide. I would consider it to completely be shooting ourselves in the foot. But I understand why you may think otherwise and that's ok. But I don't deserve any vitriol because I don't.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:04 PM
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17. I didn't realize you were so sensitive.
My apologies.

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:09 PM
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19. One Need Not Be Sensitive To Call You On Your Over Reaction.
And based on your complete lack of contextual reply as well as your over reactive defensiveness to both polite replies of mine, it would appear that you are in fact the one who is sensitive. But that's ok. I know this is all stressful to you.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:24 PM
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24. You're cute.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:39 PM
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27. You're Not So Bad Yourself. (wink)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:08 PM
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18. First impeachment. Then a trial. Then prison.
Yep, little would be accomplished. We would just be shooting ourselves in the foot. Why in the world would we want to hold them accountable?

:sarcasm:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:10 PM
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20. Sorry, But That's Completely Deluded Thinking.
Sure that's what we'd love to see happen, but it wouldn't happen in a million years. Try and be real here.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:29 PM
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25. What a polite response.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:39 PM
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28. It Was Accurate And Honest. Nothing Wrong With That.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:22 PM
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36. I didn't say there was anything wrong. I said it was polite.
:shrug:

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:45 PM
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31. Doing nothing is worse
That's for real.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:47 PM
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33. I Never Said To Do Nothing.
In fact, I already said I want full investigations into this matter and want to know who and why. This act was completely unacceptable and fishy as hell.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:22 PM
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10. Rep. Robt. Wexler: "The Constitution does not include a statute of limitations."
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 09:23 PM by ClassWarrior
Diary by Rep. Wexler on Cheney Hearings
Wexler For Congress Campaign, Daily Kos
Monday, December 31, 2007

...I think it's important to point out that while there may not currently be 218 votes in support of actual impeachment, it's premature to think that support would not be there AFTER hearings...

The whole purpose of hearings is to investigate and verify credible allegations of wrongdoing. Let us remember that it wasn't until after hearings began that the Watergate tapes emerged. Who knows what will be uncovered when we explore the evidence already on the table? Who knows what support will emerge when the truth comes out?...

This administration has obstructed our agenda since we took the majority. There is little reason to think that if we avoid hearings, we will suddenly find ourselves in an easier position. In fact, there is good cause to believe the opposite - that if we avoid hearings, we will STILL be obstructed. Such an outcome would be tragic...

Lastly, there are those that suggest that there is too little time to conduct hearings. This is a dangerous idea, as it signals to future presidents that after the third year of their term, they're effectively immune from serious inquiry. No President or Vice President should have such immunity. The Constitution does not include a statute of limitations...


Read the rest at http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/31/111617/85/837/428339.

And sign Rep. Wexler's petition calling for Cheney Impeachment Hearings at www.WexlerWantsHearings.com.

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damndude Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:12 PM
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21. i'd settle
for this man to spend the rest of his life in public court answering for the crimes of his administration. he really should be in the hague but americans wouldn't stand for that i don't think.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:16 PM
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5. I can only HOPE!!!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:21 PM
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39. Puede.
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:17 PM
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6. YES, go ahead and say BOTH and take.....
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 09:18 PM by better tomorrow
Condi with Dubya.....so much for HER chances of ever becoming any first female President. She can't even answer the phones....


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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:18 PM
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7. I HOPE!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:19 PM
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9. "Impeachment is off the table" - Nancy Pelosi
her word is her bond. Do what you wish, dick and bush.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:26 PM
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14. Impeachment? They can't do it with Plame, but can with three flunkies?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:03 PM
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16. Any port in a storm, my friend.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:15 PM
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22.  It would overshadow the election. I kinda doubt it, But we can hope
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:21 PM
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23. An investigation into Rape-Publican crime? It'd overshadow the election alright...
...for the folks who deserve it.

:evilgrin:

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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:31 PM
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26. I hope you're right!
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:40 PM
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29. Obama yes... Impeachment.. in your dreams.. Go play the lottery you have a better chance... n/t
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:18 PM
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35. Willing to gamble away the Constitution are you?
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:46 PM
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32. It was probably the Clintons
After all, she's the one making an issue of what countries Obama traveled to in a recent article. Odd coincidence.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:43 AM
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37. Odd indeed in view of today's revelations
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:46 AM
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38. You got me all excited.
:thumbsup:
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