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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:55 PM
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Who stands to benefit the most from digging into Obama's private information?
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 10:56 PM by rainbow4321
1) Repukes: they know that McCain would beat the divisive HRC in November, giving repukes another 4 years. They know she is OUT of the primary unless they come up with explosive stuff about Obama (who would beat McCain in November).

2) HRC: Since she is obviously/mathematically out of the primary race, a repuke winning in Nov would give her a chance to try again in 2012, whereas Obama winning in Nov would keep her from trying again til 2016 (cuz she can't run against a Dem incumbant prez in 2012). So she agrees with the crime being done in hopes of smearing Obama to the point where he loses in November.


What better reason for these two forces to join together in this crime?
Now do they throw each other under the bus since this information has seen the light of day? Or has chimp promised HRC that his regime will stifle any investigation attempt?

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:56 PM
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1. Of course you have a link to back up this
libelous claim?
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:00 PM
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3. Toss in as many "allegeds" as you like into the post
Cuz I'm just doing what everyone else in cyberspace is doing, throwing out possible ALLEGED scenarios.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:55 PM
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15. Saying "alleged" doesn't hold up in court
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:01 PM
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5. A crime has been committed and we need to get to the bottom of it. nt
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:58 PM
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2. the media? scandal sells? nt
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:00 PM
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4. Whatever! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out...
Hillary Rodham Clinton, of course!

She's desperate--why wouldn't she do this--she's after the "kitchen sink"--this fits the pattern!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:03 PM
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6. If it were either of them, they didn't find anything, did they.
January--nothing.

February--nothing.

March--nothing yet anyway.


If HRC had found it they would have used it right away--time's running out. Same with the RNC if they want her to win the nomination.

Personally I think it was just some lower level people who didn't realize they were committing a crime, or else felt sure nobody would know. Interesting, though, about who gets suspected. Who has a track record that would make them suspect.
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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:20 PM
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7. but how do you explain this story then???
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/12/clinton-camp-to-obama-yo_n_91156.html

Hillary's campaign somehow knew that Obama had visited just one NATO country, and then only on a "brief stopover visit in 2005"? How would they have this information?

And then the day after this was released, the third breach took place. Did somebody go back to the well one time too many?

Looks pretty suspicious to me.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:24 PM
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9. that's not proof. Of course I'm open to new evidence.
:evilgrin:
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CatsDogsBabies Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:02 AM
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20. I think that anyone with access to this information
would have been told that unauthorized access is illegal.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:23 PM
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8. No shit, this is a no brainer.
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 11:24 PM by Major Hogwash
When Rush Limbaugh went on the radio asking republicans to vote for Hillary, you knew they had decided to work hand-in-hand against Obama.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:47 PM
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10. the RNC
They have the means, the motive, and the opportunity. Elements of a crime.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:51 PM
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11. Date of first breach: Jan. 9th, 6 days after Obama won Iowa and
suddenly became a serious contender for the nom. Curiosity? Or "gotta get something on this guy, fast?" The timing is pretty key, I think.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:51 PM
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12. Both of the Above. n/t
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:52 PM
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13. The Biometric Authentification System has the most to gain.....
"The chair of Yale's CS department and Connecticut's former consumer protection commissioner are calling for the creation of a robust biometric authentication system on a national scale. They say the system would safeguard privacy and people's personal data far more effectively than paper-based IDs. They also reference the troubled Real ID program, saying that the debate has centered around forms of ID rather than the central issue of authentication. The authors further suggest that the debate has led to confusion between anonymity and privacy: 'Outside our homes, we have always lived in a public space where our open acts are no longer private. Anonymity has not changed that, but has provided an illusion of privacy and security. ... In public space, we engage in open acts where we have no expectation of privacy, as well as private acts that cannot take place within our homes and therefore require authenticating identity to carve a sphere of privacy.' The authors do not provide any suggestions for specific biometric technologies, nor do they discuss the role of the government in such a system. What do you think of a national or international biometrics-based authentication scheme? Is it feasible? How would it work? What safeguards need to be put in place?"
(Slashdot)
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:53 PM
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14. According to Keith O. it was hillary. What a fool he's become.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:18 AM
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16. Maybe someone who wants to make it look like the obvious choice?
And maybe you're taking the bait?

:shrug:
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:58 AM
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17. This conspiracy theory is so cockeyed, it has to come from an Obama supporter, right?
Only someone who sees Hillary's face in his oatmeal could concoct a conspiracy theory as paranoid as this one. So Hillary is behind this passport thing, is she? And why? Because she benefits when this snooping somehow helps McCain win in 2008, giving her a chance to run in 2012 which she otherwise wouldn't have because Obama will be so popular, he's a shoo-in for re-election.

Uh huh. Yeah, that's some real geometric thinking there, Bub.

AFAIAC, the only campaign that could benefit from this incident is Obama's. Because this gives his spokes-folk another chance to do what they do best:

Whine and play the victim.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:58 AM
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22. And up until this story broke last night...
A story/suggestion about illegally accessing a candidate's passport info would have been a huge tin foil hat conspiracy dripping with paranoia. Throw into this farfetched conspiracy "and they will wait 2 months to tell him even though they FIRED people over it".


And since it broke, nothing seems too much of a conspiracy theory anymore.

And it is Ms. Bub to you, thank you very much.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:59 AM
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18. McHitler
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:01 AM
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19. HRC, March 12: "do you think it's legitimate
for people to be concerned that you have traveled to only one NATO country, on a brief stopover trip in 2005, and have never traveled to Latin America?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/12/clinton-camp-to-obama-yo_n_91156.html
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:03 AM
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21. What an odd statement
:shrug:

Who knows.
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