NEW POLL NUMBERS: Clinton takes absolutely HUGE lead in W. Virginia! Clinton 55% Obama 27%

[Hoof Hearted]

West Virginia: Clinton 55% Obama 27%

Thursday, March 20, 2008


Looking down the road to May 13, Senator Hillary Clinton holds a huge lead over Senator Barack Obama in the West Virginia Presidential Primary. The first Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of the race shows that Clinton attracts 55% of the Likely Democratic Primary Voters while Obama is supported by 27%. Eighteen percent (18%) are not sure.

Clinton is viewed favorably by 72% of West Virginia’s Primary Voters, Obama by 53%.

By a 48% to 31% margin, the West Virginia voters believe Clinton will be the stronger general election candidate against John McCain. However, by a 47% to 35% margin, they believe Obama will win the nomination. Even 32% of Clinton voters expect Obama to be the Democratic nominee in 2008.

If Obama is nominated, just 42% of Clinton supporters say they are even somewhat likely to vote for him against McCain. Eighteen percent (18%) of Clinton voters say that they are Not Very Likely to vote for Obama and 35% say they are Not at All Likely to vote for Obama.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/west_virginia/west_virginia_democratic_presidential_primary


:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

GO HILLARY! :patriot:

[CatsDogsBabies]

1. This was posted earlier

[Hoof Hearted]

7. So? Thanks for kicking it anyways.

I appreciate it.

[Ned_Devine]

13. "Thanks for kicking it anyways." grammar; it's "any way"

[Hoof Hearted]

22. Thanks for kicking it - again. LOL

[juajen]

30. Not exactly. It's "anyway". One word.

You have been visited by the DU Spelling Police.


My name is juajen and I approve this massage.

[Ned_Devine]

35. I remember my English prof's making me separate them...ah, who cares

[Muttocracy]

2. open or Dem-only primary? 7 wks is a long time from now so hard to tell nt

[Europeanblogger]

3. In Virginia, she's tied with McCain, while Obama trails McCain by 4% (new SUSA poll)

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportEmail.aspx?g=e7fe64e7-b316-4369-b540-91f7806ce1ab

[Liberal Gramma]

9. They must have updated the poll

now it shows Obama leading McCain

[Patsy Stone]

4. She was always favored in WV.

Along with PA, KY and PR.

[anamandujano]

11. Then why was everyone trying to get her to withdraw from the contest?

[Kittycat]

17. Because one state does not a Nominee make, and she'll never catch Obama.

[Hoof Hearted]

25. I think she will. He's mortally wounded and cannot win in the GE.

She's going to run the table in the remaining states and some of the margins will be stunning.

[stillcool]

33. From what is he 'mortally' wounded?

why do people forget the boomerang effect?

[jlake]

41. I completely agree. Those Obamamaniacs ragging on and on with their "math"

posts are going to get just what they demanded: 60-70 points for Hillary from here on out.

Obama may have a "mathematical lock" on the nomination, but Hillary has the key.

[PseudoIntellect]

44. "Math" in quotations, because it would only be REAL math if it supported Hillary, right?

Real math wouldn't be biased against your candidate, right?

67%.

[jlake]

53. 67% coming up!

Check out those polls!
Hillary has a 29 point lead in PA, 33 in WV, now +2 in NC after trailing by double digits...
The wheels are off the Hopemobile.

[The Doctor.]

51. That was hilarious!

[Blondiegrrl]

52. Are you still celebrating that Clinton-Mississippi victory that you confidently predicted?

[jlake]

54. Yep. It was Obama's last hurrah. Much to celebrate!

The wheels are off the Hopemobile and it's careening toward a cliff..... better jump off while you can.

[Blondiegrrl]

58. LOL, no thanks. I'm quite happy I'm supporting the right candidate.

[jlake]

60. Sparks are flying...... riding on rims.

[woolldog]

66. Hillary has even less of a chance to win the GE

[Patsy Stone]

20. Because even with those

the math is still against her. She has to win huge in every single remaining contest, and convince the Superdelegates. Tim Russert had internals from the Obama campaign after Ohio. They predicted each contest, wins and losses, within a point or two up to that point. They, themselves, think they're going to lose those four, but win the other 8(?) contests.

[SoCalDem]

5. rassmussen (freeper poll)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_primaries.html

[Thepricebreaker]

14. Wrong.. they got the 2004 within 1.5% - They are VERY accurate

[Hoof Hearted]

21. I see. Polls we don't like are freeper polls.

How CONVENIENT.

[SoCalDem]

27. just suggesting that we look at ALL the polls and then the averages

instead of the one or two republican polls that will always promote "their" agenda..wich happens to be HRC v JMc

and do also recall that HRC was polling 48% in NOV of 07 in PA..when it was supposed to be a HRC/Rudy race and Obama was at 15%..

and back then when she was Queen of the Universe, only 36% of Pennsylvanians said they would vote for her (34% were dems)..and 40% said never,no way would they vote for her..

I know she's up against the math, and I know how excited and energized y'all must be, but just take a look at other polls and bear in mind that there's a LOT of time left...and there is also the math:)..and apportioned delegate assignment :)

[totodeinhere]

6. Too little too late.

[Milo_Bloom]

8. Still not enough delegates to win.

She's already mathematically eliminated and now just playing for 2012.

[papau]

18. Maybe not - supers could move to popular vote winner incl Mich/FL - and if Hill?

[Blondiegrrl]

40. You see where the popular vote victory got Al Gore ...

[Milo_Bloom]

56. Obama is the popular vote winner.

She has no way to get it back. NOt enough votes between now and then.

[DefenseLawyer]

10. Since Clinton does well

with very poor, uneducated white people, West Virginia would seem to be her ideal state.

[juajen]

37. I believe that is an insult..

In my immediate family, we have three Masters and one working on a Doctorate. Please don't paint Hillary supporters with that tiring brush.

It's that attitude that makes me suspicious of your reasons for being here. Obama has some very nice supporters on here, who do not have to stoop to insults to make their point, which brings up your education. Those who have no substance, make unintelligent posts.

[Blondiegrrl]

39. Uh, but it's true. All the polling suggests Clinton does better

with that particular demographic. That does not mean ALL her supporters are old, poor, or uneducated. It just means those types of people are more likely to go for Clinton. Just as the "latte-sipping, Birkenstock-wearing" liberals are more likely to go for Obama.

[DefenseLawyer]

55. I'm not insulting anyone

First of all, it isn't an insult that someone is poor. It is unfortunate, but not an insult. There are many fine people who are poor, and many fine people who have been unable to go to college. I spent a good part of my life poor and I don't think I was any less of a person based on my income level. Second of all, look at the numbers, Clinton does very well with low income white voters with less than a college education. It's a fact. It doesn't mean all her supporters are in that demographic, or even that a majority of them are. It simply means that among those persons, she does very well. It is also true, if you look at the numbers, that West Virginia is one of the poorest, least educated and whitest states. That's not an insult to West Virginia either, it just is what it is. Congratulations to you and your family on your post graduate work, I wish you the best.

[ginnyinWI]

12. Score one for racism. n/t

[GoldieAZ49]

16. nah, they are just typical white folks

like O's grandma

[rocktivity]

15. Nearly two months out and 18% unaccounted for

Obama needs only half that 18% to prevent Hillary from getting at least 65%, which is what she needs to score on ALL the remaining contests just to get close.

:headbang:
rocknation

[LordJFT]

28. i thought it was more like 70%, in any case she's toast

[rocktivity]

32. If you're talking delegates, you're probably right--I'm talking popular vote.

At any rate, anything less than a 30% margin of victory for Hillary won't be a victory at all.

:headbang:
rocknation

[LordJFT]

70. oh wow i didn't realize she still needed that much even to win the popular vote

but yeah as much she'll try to spin it otherwise any small margin of victory is a loss

[Blondiegrrl]

36. I predict Clinton will win WV by 15 percentage points.

[goldcanyonaz]

19. West Virginia doesn't count.

[JanusAscending]

23. Not after finding out that she is for

MOUNTAIN TOP MINING !! and that she thinks one can just put the mountain back together with duct tape!!!:rofl:

[FyurFly]

24. Mining will not stop

As much as we might want it to, mining for coal will be ramping up in the future not slowing down.

[juajen]

42. Link please.

I haven't seen a quote on this . Where is this coming from. This is the second time I've seen this mentioned, without any supporting link.

If you are going to say something this important you have to back it up. No smearing or your reasons for being here will be suspect. We need no more manipulation of our primaries.

[Blondiegrrl]

50. Link

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-roberts/hillary-clinton-equivocat_b_92455.html

[JanusAscending]

59. Thanks for your assist with the thread!

I'd been searching for it and couldn't find it, so thanks again:pals:

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

26. This isn't news, polls have been saying this for months here in WV

hardly indicative of any swing in her direction.
nice try, though

[Blondiegrrl]

34. Yeah, I burst out laughing when I read the topic header.

Where in WV are you? I live in South Charleston.

[Political Heretic]

29. Likely voters. Wake me up when numbers from registered voters. Or do you not understand polls?

[Name removed]

31. Deleted message

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[juajen]

46. I think you should move out of that state considering how mucyh

you hate living there. Are there no redeeming qualities. Perhaps you should teach them to read. I'm sure it would be appreciated.

[Blondiegrrl]

48. Believe me, I'd love to leave. I can't afford it. (edited)

WV bucked its traditional Democratic leaning to help put GWB into office ... TWICE.

Perhaps now you'll see why I'm so frustrated with this place.

[k8conant]

63. Of course, WV has its redeeming qualities...

I moved to the Eastern Panhandle when I left Detroit for a job in DC and have lived here for 25 years. Three of my kids have been born here and gone to school here. They're good Democrats, but the youngest isn't old enough to vote yet. The eldest of these three now works for the NH Democratic Party so he won't be voting here this year.

The dumbest people here are the newbies from the DC area. That's not to say there aren't longtime or native West Virginians who don't vote against their best interests. I suspect that happens everywhere. We're working now on getting Shelly Moore Capito out of our gerrymandered 2nd Congressional District. Talk about a Bushie! Sheesh!

Senators Obama and Rockefeller rallied together today in Charleston, WV, and Obama broadcast on the Larry King show tonight from Beckley.

We're not all bigots here by along shot. I'm not. We're more likely to vote our pocketbooks in the long run. Obama needs to keep driving home the immense (as in ASTRONOMICAL) costs of the invasion of Iraq.

I have gone, as I've said before, from Kucinich to Edwards to Obama. Clinton would be hard to support but if she should by a weird turn of events get the nomination I would still vote for here.

Come see the part of the state that John Denver wrote about: I'm on the Blue Ridge next to the Shenandoah River.

Mountaineers are always free!

[Blondiegrrl]

65. I lived in Martinsburg for a summer during a college internship.

At the time (early 90s) the Eastern Panhandle was rather conservative. It seemed like a whole different world than the southern part of the state.

No point to this post, really ... just an observation. LOL

[Life Long Dem]

38. That's like two months away.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

43. K&R

[wisteria]

45. May is a long way off and Obama can close the gap as he always does. n/t

[jgraz]

47. Prediction: Mark Penn starts referring to this country as The United State of West Virginia

[Johnny__Motown]

49. Expectations officially raised, thanks. To bad she needs that margin in all remaining contests

to even begin to catch up pledged delegates

[emilyg]

57. K/R

[FlyingSquirrel]

61. ***Breaking*** If the W .Virginia Primary were held today,

Clinton could win 62%-34%!

Since W. Virginia has 26 delegates, she'd probably split them 17-9 and pick up

>> 8 << WHOLE DELEGATES!

:woohoo:

[Old and In the Way]

62. Not exactly a liberal, progressive Democratic state I guess.

"If Obama is nominated, just 42% of Clinton supporters say they are even somewhat likely to vote for him against McCain." I have no problems with a majority supporting Hillary, good for her. But I would expect them to support whoever the eventual nominee is. I could draw some ugly conclusions from those stats.

[Blondiegrrl]

67. The Obama = Muslim = Terrorist e-mail is still circulating heavily in WV.

I got one from a friend about a month ago. I very quickly linked her up to a correction and hit "reply all" in an effort to correct the misinformation, but there are a lot of people here in this state who rely on what they heard from their Aunt Betty to make their voting decisions as opposed to actual news. People are just set in their ways, I guess.

[zulchzulu]

64. It's a long way until West Virginia

[Aussie leftie]

68. They say "A week is a long time in politics"

I understand that the West Virginia primary isn't until May 13th. A lot can happen between now and then, but its nice to see her well ahead in the mean time. If Obama has been getting about 80-90% of the African American vote in the past, how come Clinton is so far ahead in the polls?

[avrdream]

69. Day-um! Them's big numbers.

My mates in Parkersburg are rooting for Hillary. Looks like it extends elsewhere in the state. Course, it IS quite close to Ohio and we know how things went there.

You go girl!

[SoCalDem]

71. Wow.. May is such a long way off.. n/t

[thesubstanceofdreams]

72. WV awards 28 pledged delegates

If Hillary wins by 28 points, as this poll predicts, she'll win about 8-9 delegates over Obama. She's trailing by over 160 pledged delegates at the moment. WV shapes up to be her better state among the remaining ones. Now you do the math.

[Dinger]

73. Kick : )