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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:29 AM
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Poll question: How do you feel about Obama/Richardson?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:32 AM
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1. Very good. Richardson is a serious player whose service includes
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 03:59 AM by Old Crusoe
years under HClinton's husband's administration.

He's got the energy thing going, the world diplomacy thing going, the appeal to Hispanic voters going, the government of a state thing going, the captian of the 04 convention in Boston thing going, the high-profile Dem West of the Mississippi thing going, and he's a damned likable soul besides.

Also he is very good around horses. I place that as an important indicator about anybody. If you know how to treat dogs and horses, I'll lend you all my attention.
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:47 AM
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3. I have said this for months, from a political animal state of perception.Hes the one Mr Obama needs
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 03:48 AM by ThatBozGuy
Positives from both individuals, balance and cancel out the negatives. Including the shadow of Obama effect.

I mean come on how do you play second fiddle to an orator and personality like that without having a bit of personality and drive yourself. Richardson could keep up so to speak.

Great ticket. Hope it happens, took huge integrity to endorse Mr Obama being a close personal friend of Mr Clintons.

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:49 AM
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4. My fantasy about that ticket
is that Richardson will basically serve as an energy czar... get someone good in DOE and put Al Gore on speed dial, and get us a REAL energy plan. :D
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:56 AM
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5. Siebelus as Secretary of Energy And Edwards as Attorney General
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 03:56 AM by ThatBozGuy
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trained specialist Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:09 PM
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47. it feels like Clinton did a lot for Jelly Jowl's career
and it is feeling like the guy is an opportunistic sell-out,
and he'll probably end up with his just rewards when B.O. has
no more use for him.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:59 AM
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6. I think Gov. Richardson has been on the short list even before the
short list is drawn up.

He brings a hell of a lot to the table.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:03 AM
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8. He has lots of problems
his relationship with the oil industry while serving as Secretary of Energy, the fact that he ordered voting machines to be wiped when there was a pending lawsuit to audit them because of the serious undervote in NM (which could have gone a long way to win the Presidency for Kerry), and his womanizing problems.

All in all, I think he complements Obama very well.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:05 AM
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10. I hope you aren't looking for perfection in politicians.
That could be a very frustrating search.

My post asserted the man's strengths.

I felt that was a good starting point.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:05 AM
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14. Not perfection
Just honesty and integrity.
Two things that Bill lacks.
However...as I said...he is a GREAT choice for obama.:thumbsup:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:12 AM
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26. It's your slam on Democrats that lacks integrity.
Richardson's a good man.


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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:18 AM
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12. Actually he complimented Clinton very well.
That's already a matter of history.

Everyday is Opposite Day in HillaryWorld.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:10 AM
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16. Ahhh but he belongs to yer guy now
which is also a matter of history.:rofl:
Sucks froggy...cause you seem to KNOW the kind of guy Richardson is.
But don't worry, I am sure he only endorsed him because he stands to gain something...he would have gone to Clinton had they offered more.:rofl:
I would be a tad concerned about the obvious baggage that Richardson carries and the enemies he just made.
I CANNOT wait for obama to announce him as his running mate.:rofl:
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:17 AM
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18. Look, Richardson endorsed Obama, not the other way around.
But have fun with your little game. I'm sure there isn't much else for you to look forward to these days.

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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:14 AM
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22. I'm with you on the dogs & horses thing, Old Crusoe
Horses are living bullshit detectors--it's not surprising that the Cowboy in Chief happens to be terrified of them. It also looks like Bush's dog Barney doesn't have a whole hell of a lot of respect for him. That guy who does the "Dog Whisperer" show on TV actually used this pair as an example of how a person can be a leader of human beings but his dog knows who he really is deep down. He has a hilarious picture of Barney dragging Bush all over the place while a detatchment of Marines in full dress stand at attention saluting the Commander in Chief.

Richardson was my first choice because of his extensive experience, too bad he lacked the most important trait that a candidate for president can have--the ability to speak well on TV.

I like a Richardson/Obama ticket. I also like the idea of Obama with someone with considerable military experience, say Jim Webb or Wes Clark.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:13 AM
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27. Hi, bklyncowgirl. And I know you know what you're talking about.
Richardson is a good man. Despite the efforts by some here to smear him.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:23 AM
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33. It he'd endorsed Clinton the rabid Obama people would be smearing the guy
...and using very much the same accusations while the Clinton people would be praising him for his wisdom and judgment.

Can't take this stuff too seriously.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:06 PM
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45. And if a man is asceered of horses and dogs can't stand him
he's probably a dumbass president :hi:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:33 AM
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I'd prefer him as SOS.
Diplomacy is his forte!
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:33 AM
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2. Awesome. eom
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:00 AM
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7. I've been saying that should be the ticket for quite some time
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:05 AM
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9. I wouldn't be comfortable with a Clinton man on the ticket.
He asked Scott Ritter to lie about WMD's so Clinton could bomb Iraq. Do we really need more of that mentality in the White House?

And what ever happened to the disappeared New Mexico ballots?

Please. Give us a ticket we can believe in and embrace.

I know there are no perfect politicians, but there are some much better choices out there.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:51 PM
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35. He's clearly not Clinton's man
He endorsed Obama. :D
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:16 PM
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39. He is Bill's man, not Hillary's.
I thought that was kind of obvious. :)
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:05 AM
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11. awesome
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:03 AM
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13. Better than 'Pretty Good', but ...
I really hate that term 'awesome', just in principle. How about 'Very Strong', or 'Best Choice!!'.

(I may change my name on this list to 'The Old Curmudgeon', if it's not already in use.)
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:05 AM
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15. My first choice.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:12 AM
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17. Obama/Richardson is a Dream Ticket.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:20 AM
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19. I'm not sure. He would absolutely bring experience to the ticket
I'm not sure if he would be the typical "attack dog" VP candidate. Perhaps that is why I like him. LOL Obama has said he does not want to go that route anyway. So who knows? I would not be against it because I do like him.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:02 AM
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20. wildly unenthused
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:06 AM
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21. I support Richardson on his principles
But he wasn't a sufficiently viable candidate.

I don't think he'd be the right running mate.

Nevertheless... I love discussing this.

It will be nice when this and defeating McCain is all we need to be concerned about.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:40 AM
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23. He's one of those people much better at actually holding office--
--than campaigning. Should Obama go for an attack dog VP? Hard to tell.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:48 AM
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24. I can't think of a ticket
with a better chance of winning the general.
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:48 AM
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25. Man on the inside
I keep saying that Clinton won't back down until she get at least a boost in power and influence. Having a "man on the inside" (not intended to be gender specific) would help her, although I still think Clark is more that person. Richardson, though, still owes a lot to the Clintons despite not giving his endorsement.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:27 AM
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28. i love that ticket
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:29 AM
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29. It may be more like Secretary of State
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:33 AM
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30. Richardson wanted to build a pipeline
Richardson wanted to build a pipeline to carry water to New Mexico.... :crazy:

No thanks.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:35 AM
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31. He also is for nuclear power
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:09 PM
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37. If you're going to have a westerner
you're going to have some funky water politics.

What do you think McCain thinks about water? :shrug: :scared:

And one of Boxer's earmarks is the toilet-to-tap project in Orange County. :P
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:48 AM
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32. I have long said Richardson would be Obama's best choice...
(I have always personally wanted an Obama/Edwards ticket)... but Richardson brings the perfect balance. Foreign policy experience, executive experience, foreign policy experience, moderate on some issues that Obama isn't(like guns), foreign policy experience, he brings New Mexico, popular among hispanics which is vital SW states, and uhh... foreign policy experience.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:11 PM
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38. You forgot energy experience
:thumbsup:
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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:25 AM
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34. Pretty good...n/t
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:56 PM
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36. . n/t
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 12:57 PM by invictus
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:17 PM
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40. Richardson MAY have issues with women. Either philandering or poor behavior. Sam Clemons
briefly mentioned this a while back.

Clemons is the very antithesis of a rumor monger.

He didn't go into any detail. Just gave a heads up.
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Utopian Leftist Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:19 PM
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41. No Way!
I'm happy to see Richardson endorse Obama. And I think he is a very nice guy who would make a fine diplomat. But I don't want him on the presidential ticket.

First of all, have you heard him speak? He mangles the English language almost as much as Chimp in Charge. While this would be a HUGE boon to late-night comedians, the thought makes me shudder.

Next, two ethnic candidates on the same ticket? Liberals are certainly fine with that idea (I am), but that is asking a lot from the rest of the country who can't even stomach Rev. Wright.

Most importantly, he is NOT electable in 2016. He probably has less charisma than anyone this side of Joe Lieberman. WHY can't Democrats choose someone capable of stirring a little excitement? Kerry was wise to go with Edwards, and Gore was also a good pick. But Lloyd Bentson in 1988? Joe Lieberman? Neither of those men ever stood a snowball's chance in hell of gaining the Democratic Nomination, let alone becoming President.

Personally, I'd still like to see Barack choose a woman as his VP, in order to assuage the disappointment of feminists from Hillary's loss, though I realize it's not likely to happen. His wisest choice will be someone strong on national security. It's too bad that Wes Clark is in Hillary's camp, because he would be perfect.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:02 PM
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44. Have you seen Richardson's endorsement speech?
It's pretty righteous. Sure, he's not the best public speaker, but I think he's got the nerdiness necessary to be an effective VP.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5195702&mesg_id=5195702
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:22 PM
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42. Edwards for VP...
Biden for SecState; Richardson, Homeland Security; Boxer, Senate Majority Leader; Kuchinich, Labor
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:25 PM
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43. Now that would be an excellent ticket!
The governor would build up Obama's Latino vote, Obama brings the youth vote, progressives and independents.

Say hello to President Obama and VP Richardson!:patriot:

That is a ticket I would gladly give time and money to! I would back that ticket one million percent!

First AA President and first Latino VP! Its way pass time to let someone other than ancient white men run this multiracial country!
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:09 PM
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46. It's pretty good...not great
I want someone like Sebelius...but definently another Govenor with some executive experience. So in that case Richardson would be fine I guess.
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