Who do you think is the culprit and what are the motivations behind PassportGate?

[jefferson_dem]

Poll question: Who do you think is the culprit and what are the motivations behind PassportGate?

:shrug:

[SunsetDreams]

1. I need another option

Bush Administration

[jefferson_dem]

6. Right. I added that as an option.

Thanks.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

2. All 3?

On 3 different occasions?




Probably GOP.

[marions ghost]

13. I go with GOP too

the dirtiest deeds are always done by them. Clinton Inc. might be interested, but I don't want to think they'd sink to the level of this.

[yourguide]

3. 3 breeches equals...

1 for Bush Admin
1 for McCain
1 for Clinton

Game, set, match.

[mmonk]

4. No need to speculate. Let it unfold.

There are so many "interests" involved in that agency right now, it might be something we haven't considered yet.

[elixir]

5. You are, you sad excuse for a democrat.

[Lerkfish]

7. ? uncalled for commentary

[jefferson_dem]

8. Just make sure you check the "other" option.

:hi:

[Lerkfish]

9. Occam's Razor: who would benefit most from the information.

answer that and you know the motivation.

[Tom Rinaldo]

10. Self Delete

I simply misread the poll question. Sorry

[workinclasszero]

11. This second rate Nixon plumbers job has Hillary's kitchen sink strategy written all over it

:hide: :spank:

Let the investigation begin!:popcorn:

[bluedog]

12. how about Obama himself?

hoping this would get this Rev Wright stuff off the front pages and to gather the votes of people who think he is being singled out because of his name?.......just a thought!

[goldcanyonaz]

15. I think you're onto something there. But, we'll just go with Clinton around here.

[leftynyc]

16. Interesting

And has about as much evidence as does the Clinton's involvement.

[myrna minx]

17. So, he went back in time to January, to order contracted State Department

employees to hack his record, in anticipation that three months later, when he's notified by the State Department, he could change the topic of the media?

[jefferson_dem]

21. Hey, cool pic in your siggy.

Who's that dude on the left - hanging with the rather suave looking Tom Waits?

[myrna minx]

22. Thanks. Film maker Jim Jarmusch.

:hi:

[bluedog]

34. could be a backup tactic

in case anything about his past was brought out and gives him bad news coverage .....one never knows what happens in politics....

[olkaz]

39. This is the wackiest conspiracy crap I have heard this whole election.

You read about how this happened months ago, and you think it was some sort of "backup tactic"?

Holy mother of god. Look up Alex Jones. You would LOVE him.

[myrna minx]

41. I don't even know how to respond. n/t

[cloudythescribbler]

42. Sooner or later some knucklehead would inevitably make this claim

Assuming Obama wanted to do it, HOW would he go about it?

Just because (and in this I agree) the issue redounds to Obama's benefit, doesn't mean he was behind it. Many of the attacks CLEARLY from the HRC camp have backfired -- was Andrew Cuomo a 'secret Obama agent'? Remember the TV show "Get Smart"? Nice work, agent 99.

By the way, Obama's speech in response to the "Rev Wright stuff" was excellent, and all-but-ignored on DU -- morally shocking but factually unsurprising. In the longer run, this whole episode, including Obama's response to it, might earn him well-deserved respect in some quarters, including important ones. I agree it posed an ENORMOUS political danger and still does (this country spent almost ALL of 1994 going on about an obscure speech by a hitherto unknown Khallid Abdul Maurice Templesman Muhammad, and more recently HRC tried to link Obama with Farrakhan in a debate -- and WON primaries after the kitchen-sink strategy that epitomized was deployed in late Feb and early March.

[MethuenProgressive]

14. None of the information in the passport records ever leaked out, right?

I bet the 3 chuckleheads also searched up Paris Hilton and Carmen Electra.
Privacy was violated, laws were broken, but no evil intent.

[myrna minx]

18. And you know this how? If this had happened to Senator Clinton would

you be so dismissive?

[MethuenProgressive]

23. I said "I bet" not "I know". Please don't make shit up to get "outraged" over.

Just because your candidate acts that way doesn't give his followers leave to act as silly.

[myrna minx]

24. Sheesh. I asked if this happened to Senator Clinton, would you be as dismissive.

How am I making "shit" up?? I asked a simple question.

[Hepburn]

31. And we know it was never leaked....

....how?

Just because it has not been publicized, that does not mean that it was NOT leaked to someone or some entity, right?

[MethuenProgressive]

43. Kennedy was shot by Oswald. Osama bin Laden was behind 9/11. No Bigfoots flying UFOs over Atlantis.

Conspiracy theorists live in a different world than the rest of us....
:eyes:

[Dinger]

19. I Chose "Other", And I Think Of This Not As "Passportgate," But "Shustergate"

I think the motivation is revenge, for his suspension. He can't get over the FACT that he screwed up and got CAUGHT!

[Auntie Bush]

35. Good thinking!

:thumbsup:

[Dinger]

37. Thank You Auntie! : )

How's it going?:hi:

[Auntie Bush]

44. Thanks Dinger

Could be better! :hi:

[myrna minx]

20. Bushco. It just reeks of Bushco.

[MonkeyFunk]

26. I don't see why Bushco would need to go about something

like this in such a hamfisted way.

I imagine anybody elected to the Senate, and given security clearance, would have a full FBI background check - including passport records. Anybody invited to the White House would undergo a background check - including, I presume, a review of passport records.

I don't think BUshco would need to hire some junior level data entry people to get the information.

[Hepburn]

33. I gotta agree with much that you posted.

BushCo would just need to ask Condi...there is no need for them to use three low level employees. Too much risk.

Also: I don't see what BuchCo would have to gain from doing this. They have no dog in the fight ~~ or at least so it appears.

[myrna minx]

38. Well, the "plumbers" weren't exactly elegant either. They were caught as well, because

of the mistakes they made. While thorough FBI background checks are routinely done, they aren't handed over for oppositional research, although in Bush's partisan government, nothing would surprise me now. :-( THis happened three different times and the Senator wasn't notified until the story was about to break in the news. If it was just bored temps, and this wasn't a big deal, the breach would have been caught , stopped, the person fired and the Senator would have been notified. State should have recognized this pattern. and sealed this hole, so to speak. Instead, it happened at least three times, over the course of 2+ (I believe) months, and kept a secret. It just reeks of the Bush hubris and tactics to me. I , like everyone else, have no clue who's responsible, but I damn well want to know.

[dailykoff]

25. HRC, March 12, 2008: "you have traveled to only one NATO country"

Hillary asks, "As voters evaluate you as a potential Commander-in-Chief, do you think it's legitimate for people to be concerned that you have traveled to only one NATO country, on a brief stopover trip in 2005, and have never traveled to Latin America?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/12/clinton-camp-to-obama-yo_n_91156.html

This doesn't look good at all, but I don't think Clinton is guilty of espionage -- that I know of.

[MethuenProgressive]

27. You're likable enough, dailykoff...

As far as know.

[dailykoff]

29. I'll take you on your word.

;)

[jimshoes]

28. If it wassomeone outside the administration, they'd be in full

"We're on the case mode", if it was someone with ties to the administration, they will be in foot draging , ongoing investigation, spin mode.

[blonndee]

30. I'm starting to wonder whether it was someone(s) connected to a 527

group or some other type of RW media thug machine who was behind all this.

[SoonerPride]

32. With THREE separate incidents, it's hard to think it was JUST curious boneheads

Three times, each about a month apart?

That seems REALLY curious.

[high density]

36. I'm going to assume it's Clinton

Because it seems every time I have tried to give her the benefit of the doubt I eventually am proven wrong. I think the Bush admin doesn't really care, and the January breach seems to make no sense in regards to McCain. The "curiosity" factor went out the door after the second breach.

[cloudythescribbler]

40. Whatever its cause it certainly helps move beyond Wright-milking news cycles ...

which have been, to the eternal shame of many on DU (let's also make a point of remembering, as memories are often VERY short) was jumped on not only by many on the right, but by folk here at DU with an embarrassing eagerness.

I still think that the important speech that Obama gave in response was just right, and all-but-ignored here on DU. Look around -- there's more interest in Passportgate than in Obama's speech.

Also, the Richardson endorsement moved by with nary a ripple that I can see -- maybe an endorsement from Edwards would turn at least a VERY FEW heads here on DU