According to CNN Hillary's passport file was breached in 2007.

[BlackVelvet04]

She will be briefed by the State Department later today.

And NO there is no link because it was just on CNN about 1 minute ago.

[lisa58]

1. msnbc just reported it as well

[rodeodance]

7. good

[Debi]

11. You're happy about this?

:crazy:

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[Debi]

32. We're the VICTIM HERE

WOO HOO :woohoo:

[trained specialist]

79. The NYT reported on little pet Obama

wonder if they'll say one word about HRC.
It's really weird to see the NYT morph into a propaganda mill.
Their reporting has gotten totally unreliable.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

129. since they know Clinton's happened during training

there's nothing to investigate.

Wherease there IS something to investigate regarding Grampies and Obama's.

[K Gardner]

2. Good grief !

[mmonk]

3. It's time to lift the veil on the State Department.

[The Backlash Cometh]

81. You're the only bright one so far.

Now we're beginning to see Bush's little pawns and strategic moves at play.

[mmonk]

89. The State Department unfortunately

seems to be crawling with people with different interests. I've learned quite a bit from working on getting exposure for Sibel Edmonds. It's time for someone in Congress to look deeply into this department in the interests of the American people.

[rodeodance]

4. Wonder if KO will do a Special Edition on this??

[Lucinda]

8. LOL

Suuuuure he will.

[thewiseguy]

9. Need a pillow?

Thats one of your own lines.

[rodeodance]

49. sure is. But it is KO and his ink and many here on DU who made a**s of themselves

who might need the pillow--if they have any shame at all--esp for blaming the BO bread on hillary camp with NO evidence what so ever.



but i do not really expect them to apologize--some might go into a hole for awhile.

[Umbram]

65. Don't count on it.

I'll still happily blame Clinton, just to be 'that guy.'

[rodeodance]

70. "I'll still happily blame Clinton, just to be 'that guy.'--you have shown your true colors

[Umbram]

109. I think we both have. (nt)

[juajen]

135. Hi, rodeo

Did you mean "ilk?" Love ya.

juajen

[BlackVelvet04]

20. I don't think I'll hold my breath waiting on it. n/t

[rodeodance]

24. I really want to see them eating raw craw for linking Hillary with BO breach last night

[Dinger]

47. It'd Be Too Little Too Late, But I Am Curious, So I'll Probably Watch, And I Repeat: Apologies

anyone?

[rodeodance]

83. maybe from a few?--no, they will make excuses

[Bigleaf]

50. I will wager anyone here that he will hammer the State Dept. on this. All 3 candidates and

who knows who else will be revealed?

[rodeodance]

85. first KO and his ink need to apologize to the Clinton campaign.

[Dinger]

88. Yes They Do!

But will they? If I were Keith or Shuster, I'd be a little worried for my job about now.

[rodeodance]

94. someone just told me they will do HOUR on this tonight. Maybe they realize their LIES?

[Dinger]

96. They Should Do Something, Maybe It'll Save Their Jobs

I'm gonna watch, for sure.

[rodeodance]

97. they came right out and blamed Clinton. Their jobs should be on the line.

[AnnieBW]

111. I thought they blamed the Repukes

At least that's what it sounded like to me.

[rodeodance]

118. you missed it.

[AnnieBW]

137. Was it in the 10 PM broadcast?

Because I only watched the 8 PM one. I had class last night until 9, then watched it on Tivo.

[barb162]

67. Yeah, I'd like to see 50 minutes or so of breathless coverage like he did last night

[Iceburg]

80. ROTFLMAO !!! /nt

[SeaLyons]

84. Yea, I'm gonna make some popcorn

and get ready for his hour long segment on Hillary :sarcasm:


Hillary for President!!

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

130. for what was already investigated? happened during training?

so this employee is being trained and this happens, in 2007.

It wasn't done on the sly like Gramps and Obama's may have been.

For sure Obama's - three different times, both around key election moments.

[LSK]

134. more evidence that you have completely lost your mind

[SoCalDem]

5. Aaaaw geez.. Now McCain will call a news conference ,demanding

to know why HIS was not sneak-peeked:rofl:

[rodeodance]

13. The concern is about Hillary--and you joke about mccain.

[slinkerwink]

30. I hope no one breaches my passport!

[lisa58]

38. It was - they just reported it

[SoCalDem]

43. Whew.. now he can take the tour of Big Ben

:rofl:

[lisa58]

44. lol

[barb162]

73. That means he has to figure out what country it's in, seeing how

he's head of a European subcommittee he's never chaired in about 15 months.

[SoCalDem]

98. If it's Tuesday , It Must be Belgium

:rofl:

[barb162]

103. Yeah, but can he find tthat continent? Can he find his subcomittee

LOL

[barb162]

75. State says all three candidate files breached. Let's see if Olbermann

can work up another big 50 minute hard-on over that tonight.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

131. Gramps' was sneak peaked as well

apparently there aren't enough limitations on how someone can
access that information.

[SoonerPride]

6. Very interesting

indeed.

[blogslut]

10. Thank you

You're right, there is no link yet but the Headline is at the top of the CNN website.

So, this is very interesting. Condoleezza Rice has a lot of explaining to do.

[beachmom]

12. Okay, this is now looking a LOT WORSE for the Bush administration. nt

[rodeodance]

16. yes--this is about the Bush adm.

[tridim]

29. ...And whoever it was they were doing this work for

Probably McCain's campaign.

[lisa58]

42. it always was...

...the last Bush administration breeched Bill Clinton's - they have no decency.

[Ichingcarpenter]

14. I always said it was the Neo-Cons ...... DynCorp is the subcontractor

and they are a nasty bunch.

[rodeodance]

19. I read your post last night

[JohnnyBoots]

26. No way, those three State Dept. Contractors where with DynCorp?????

[Ichingcarpenter]

40. We don't know if Hillary's breech was a DynCorp subcontactor yet

But if it is that is then it is a major Conspiracy.

[JohnnyBoots]

52. I agree, DynCorp is like a Halliburton's little brother. Where did you get the information from?

[Ichingcarpenter]

56. Last Night on TV

They are more like Blackwater.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=DynCorp

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

132. two possible contractors: Stanley and Citigroup

Posted at CLG:

State Department refuses to release the name of passport contractor --Why? Just like Bush's other protected species, the telecoms, the State Department's passport contractor(s) are protected at all costs. Any and all of their illegal activities are shielded by Bush-run agencies and investigative arms. 21 Mar 2008 Citizens for Legitimate Government (www.legitgov.org) is digging to find the contractor used by the Bureau of Public Affairs to learn which contractor's employees were fired and disciplined in the Barack Obama passport security breach. Two contractors that produce and issue passports for the US State Department are Stanley and Citigroup, but CLG is NOT stating that the employees of either of these two contractors were involved in the breach of the Obama passport security. --LRP

http://www.legitgov.org/

[Tatiana]

15. And I think Kerry's was as well. n/t

[beachmom]

25. Did you hear that, or just a theory? nt

[Tatiana]

31. Theory. n/t

[cali]

17. WTF is going on at State

and other departments? Time for Condi to do some testifying on the Hill- not that we'll learn much, but drag her ass there anyway.

[Teaser]

28. what's going on is par for the course

.

[Cass]

18. Interesting but not surprising.

This is how republicans operate.

I hope all the Obama stooges who were trying to pin this on Clinton wake the hell up and understand what's happening.

[Johnny__Motown]

22. MSNBC has it too

[slinkerwink]

35. McCain's passport breached as well!

[slinkerwink]

interesting!

[powergirl]

23. Now the Clinton campaign is concerned, I'm sure

The Clinton campaign needs to be concerned about both her and Obama's privacy right violations.

[rodeodance]

you did not see the hillary campaign comments last night did you? You look foolish now.

[dogday]

45. *crickets*

[rodeodance]

78. yes,lots of nasy *crickets* last night and this am by Obamafolks

[powergirl]

51. You can always count on Republicans and Sen. Clinton to resort to name calling

It is as sure as the day is long. Actually, what Penn, from the Clinton campaign stated was, "If this is true", then this is an outrage. The Clinton campaign wanted to cast doubt on the merits of Obama's complaint b/c they wanted to use it to their advantage. This is the same tactic as using "as far as I know" which is a slimey way of casting doubt on their opponent even if it is without honor. Another example of the slime tactic occurred when a reporter asked if her campaign was using the Wright comments as leverage to put the squeeze on superdelegates, Sen. Clinton ignored the question. (you don't get to ignore questions if you want to be president)

Therefore, I believe your name calling of me, the poster here, is unwarranted in this situation and others. I guess the Clinton supporters are following the example of their candidate - and Republicans. I look forward to an apology for your "foolish" comment. And please note I have never called you or any other Clinton supporter on DU names, ever.

On edit: Here is the exact weasel quote from the Clinton campaign:


Doug Hattaway, a spokesman for Sen. Hillary Clinton, Obama's rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, said, "If it's true, it's reprehensible, and the Bush administration has a responsibility to get to the bottom of it."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/20/obama.passport/index.html

There you go: That's the noble and brave statement. That really makes me feel good about her character.

[BlackVelvet04]

64. n/t

[rodeodance]

72. **news flash. This is NOT about YOU and your little gripes. get it.

[JimGinPA]

27. McSame's Was Breached Too per M$NBC

[BlackVelvet04]

33. Hopefully this will encourage some people to not jump to

conclusions. I'm not counting on it.

[barb162]

108. I'm not counting on it either.

It's pretty sad.

[UALRBSofL]

34. BlackVelvet Something smells like a rat

Interesting Obama could have had someone get these files when he was deciding to run. I'm not saying it's true but I wouldn't put anything past his camp. Obama and Axelrod will do anything to win.

[BlackVelvet04]

37. LOL

I guess we will just have to hope they had nothing to do with it. ;-)

[Debi]

46. Ha

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[rodeodance]

58. Personal attacks and name-calling on other DU members in not allowed.

[thewiseguy]

36. She already got a call. This news is from her own campaign.

How many breaches were there and when exactly did it take place?

[rodeodance]

"She will be briefed by the State Department later today."--interesting. This is NEW to her.

[bigtree]

39. this, of course, makes some folks look like complete asshats

that guy, Olb . . .

[rodeodance]

41. yes--that guy--olb.......and his ink!

[Dinger]

87. Any Of You (Hillary People) Gonna Watch Him tonight? (nt)

[rodeodance]

104. hope so.

[book_worm]

53. Unbelievable! GOP dirty tricks?

[UALRBSofL]

54. BV lets take a look at Obama supporters post last night on passports

Anyone interested, take a look at these threads and the Hillary Clinton sliming and flaming by the rabid Obama supporters. They owe the Clinton supporters an apology.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5180797

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5180797

[ElsewheresDaughter]

57. I wouldn't hold your breath

[rodeodance]

66. bookmarked thatnks

[BlackVelvet04]

117. Thank you for the reminder and the evidence

of it.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

55. so was Bill's in 1991 by poppa bush's WH

[Penndems]

69. It occurred in the fall of 1992, if memory serves

The passport files of Bill Clinton; his mother, the late Virginia Kelly, and Ross Perot were all breached.

The Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs was a Bush 41 appointee named Elizabeth Tamposi, whose family owned a lumber mill in New Hampshire.

Janet Mullins, the Assistant Secretary for Legislative Affairs, and a Jim Baker and Bush family loyalist, was also behind the breech.

Margaret Tutwiler, another Baker/Bush loyalist, petitioned the D.C. Superior Court to be refunded legal fees:

http://www.ll.georgetown.edu/federal/judicial/dc/opinions/9_opinions/92-0009c.html

[ElsewheresDaughter]

82. I stand corrected...1992

[rodeodance]

76. 1992--here: fwi:-)

Clinton Bill passport breach 1992

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23736254/

Previous incident
The disclosure of inappropriate passport inquiries recalled an incident in 1992, when a Republican political appointee at the State Department was demoted over a search of presidential candidate Bill Clinton's passport records. At the time he was challenging President George H.W. Bush.

The State Department's inspector general said the official had helped arrange the search in an attempt to find politically damaging information about Clinton, who had been rumored to have considered renouncing his citizenship to avoid the Vietnam War draft.

The State Department said the official, Steven Berry, had shown "serious lapses in judgment."

After a three-year, $2.2 million probe, a federal independent counsel exonerated officials in the incident, saying that while some of the actions investigated were "stupid, dumb and partisan," they were not criminal. The independent counsel also said that Berry and others who were disciplined for their involvement were treated unfairly.

[Penndems]

92. Thanks, rodeodance!

:hi:

[rodeodance]

101. you bet

[JimGinPA]

59. The Spokesman For The State DEpt. Said HRC's Breach Was A Training Error

[thewiseguy]

62. awwwww...

[rodeodance]

68. Try not to belittle this breach please.

[rodeodance]

60. REC

[Zynx]

61. This has turned into a broad based scandal.

[rodeodance]

63. yes, it is

[barb162]

71. ALL THREE CANDIDATES files have been breached. CNN now

is reporting.

[LizW]

77. Good Lord. Why don't they just put all the files on the Intertubes?

That's about how secure they are, it seems. :eyes:

[barb162]

105. Maybe they should have civil serevice employees v. contractors too

Maybe they should insource Condi's job with a temp; then she'll get the picture.

[Breeze54]

74. The first Bush did the same thing to Bill Clinton and Ross Perot in '92

Typical rethug spying on candidates, looking for dirt.

Rethugs did the same in Watergate... spying but they also got caught.

[rodeodance]

90. but by now, I would expect the State Depart to be smarter!

[Breeze54]

91. It's not about being smarter! Do you mean smarter at spying?

:shrug:

The Bush Crime Family doesn't give a flying fuck!!

[rodeodance]

106. don't be silly. A lot of $$ has gone into making data secure. Looks like they

are still dumb.

[Breeze54]

112. You're kidding me, right?

They were spying!!!!!

[rodeodance]

114. i was talking about the State Department's inability to secure its data after

years and years and years.

[Breeze54]

123. They worked there and had access!! It isn't about "security".

They worked there!! They had access to the computers and the data!

[rodeodance]

125. yes, read my posts--That IS what I am talking about. I am glad you finally got it. thanks

[Breeze54]

128. I got it way before I read anything you posted!

You don't seem to get it though.

[Mezzo]

86. Obama did it!! Obama did it!! He should drop out now.

You people should have seen how cult like you were acting last night.

Hillary "knew" of Obama's wherabouts. HOW did she "just know". It was incredible.

[rodeodance]

99. Obamafolk were still cricketing about it this am. Some went into a hole i see.

[ruggerson]

93. I see FAR less outrage about all this now that all three candidates' files have been breached

How odd.

[rodeodance]

102. they seem to have crawled away for awhile.

[barb162]

107. It's only an outrage to some if it's Barak's file.

:eyes:
Clinton's or McCain's files? Who the hell cares, right? Only Barak matters. True story, cross my heart.

[rodeodance]

116. I know--this board almost crashed last night.

[Basement Beat]

95. It seems to be a giant...

..."my candidate is being attacked more than yours" fest going on.

[BlackVelvet04]

119. Yes, the Obama supporters certainly were doidng that yesterday...

I guess Hillary's information being breached just isn't important...it's only Obama's that is important.

Your comment was hypocritical at best.

[Drunken Irishman]

122. It's a different kind of breach.

That is what MSNBC is reporting. The breach on their files wasn't nearly at the level of Obama's.

[BlackVelvet04]

136. of course not....

poor Obama is VICTIMIZED I tell you, VICTIMIZED.

[barb162]

120. More bothersome is that some jumped to a ridiculous conclusion ; Hillary did it

Today's little factoids that Clinton's and McCain's files got viewed too... where are those accusing Hillary now?

[Ben143]

100. Obamabots: my passport breach is cooler than yours! n/t

[SammyWinstonJack]

127. LOL!

:spray: Good one! :evilgrin:

[AnnieBW]

110. I wonder if any other Dem candidates were hit by this?

Besides Hillary and Obama? I mean, if someone was going on a fishing expedition, they would have been fishing for more than just one candidate.

I'm betting that the orders didn't come from State - they came from the contracting company. Think about it. If the company is someone like KBR, that stands to lose a lot of money if a Dem gets in, then they'd want to get some dirt on as many Dems as possible. Same with McCain. He's come out publicly against torture. If the contractors WERE DynCorp, then they might want to get something on McInsane to blackmail him into caving in on the anti-torture memo. Which, come to think of it, is what he did.

It's an outrage regardless of which candidates were hit. That's private information, and not to be used for opposition research.

[Vinca]

113. The difference is that Hillary's happened during a training session

when the instructor told the people to enter the name of a person into the system and the moron being trained entered Hillary's name. The Obama and McCain snooping was just that, snooping. One person - the one who hasn't been fired yet - looked at both Obama and McCain's files. Two other people - the fired ones - looked at Obama's file. No one will know until they investigate the people whether it's Republican operatives, Democratic operatives, nosy idiots or someone looking for dirt to sell to the tabloids.

[rodeodance]

115. Try not to belittle the breachs please. for all of them.

[Vinca]

121. There is a massive difference between a trainee making an error

under the supervision of an instructor and other individuals, on their own, snooping into files. Good heavens - does being a Hillary supporter somehow sap the common sense out of a person?

[barb162]

124. 3 Candidates' Passport Files Breached ( Washington Post)

3 Candidates' Passport Files Breached

By DESMOND BUTLER and ANNE FLAHERTY
The Associated Press
Friday, March 21, 2008; 1:04 PM

WASHINGTON -- The passport files of the three presidential candidates _ Sens. Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton and John McCain _ have been breached, the State Department said Friday.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the breaches of McCain and Clinton's passport files were not discovered until Friday, after officials were made aware of the privacy violation regarding Obama's records and a separate search was conducted.

McCormack said the individual who accessed Obama's files also reviewed McCain's file earlier this year. This contract employee has been reprimanded, but not fired. The individual no longer has access to passport records, he said.

snip
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/03/21/ST2008032101821.html

[tammywammy]

126. This whole thing stinks

I hope they get to the bottom of this.

[mtnsnake]

133. Well at least this is one time the Obamabots won't blame Hillary

....although there's no guarantee on that either.

K&R! Thanks for posting this, BV.