CLINTONS RAISED $16.0 M LESS THAN CLAIMED IN FEB

[futureliveshere]

So here we have another lie, or convenient interpretation of the truth. What say now, oh HRC supporters.

Here is the link and some of the text: http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=926

At the end of February, “a Clinton advisor confirmed” for Politico’s Ben Smith that the campaign raised $35 million during the month of February.

The Wall Street Journal reported the same: “Rebounding dramatically from dismal fund-raising in January, Sen. Hillary Clinton’s campaign raised more than $35 million in February—a record haul for the campaign.”

ABC News reported that Senator Clinton herself made the claim

But here is the problem:

The Los Angeles Times reports, after scouring Federal Elections Commission (FEC) reports that Clinton’s, uh, creative math, included “$10 million from her Senate campaign account and a $5-million personal loan.”

The Associated Press digs deeper into the numbers (the February filing reports came in yesterday) and notes that most of the $19 million that Clinton did raise in February was either offset by unpaid bills or was “general election” money (what big donors, lobbyists and PACs that have already given the maximum $2,300 to the primary campaign then give to a fund that can only be used if the candidate becomes the nominee)

The links to the above mentioned sources can be found on the rural votes site:
http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=926

[Johnny__Motown]

1. Can't they ever tell the truth about anything? my god, why am I not surprised

thanks for the info

[Dems Will Win]

18. I think this analysis is wrong actually

The Field read the article wrong.

THe $5 mil and $10 mil was part of the $173 mil total and came in way before Feb. Read it again.

I'm Dems Will Win and I think Hil is not lying on this one.

That would be nuts anyhow, as she would get caught.

[frazzled]

2. No, she raised that much--some was just for GE or offset by expenses

Let's keep things real, people: this is not an issue of misreporting. It's just a question that while she raised a lot, she could not use all of it for the primary campaign.

[tabasco]

10. LOL. She will spend every penny she has on the primary.

She claimed she "raised" money but a lot of it was just diverted from other accounts or borrowed.

[high density]

11. That's not what has been posted

Unless you claim loans and transfers are "fundraising." The question is whether or not those funds were involved in February or not. I thought her loan was a January thing, and I have no clue when the senate money came over.

[EFerrari]

12. Doesn't look like it. Five was a LOAN and 10 was from her

senatorial campaign account.

[FrenchieCat]

20. It's a question of perception of misperception

and could have been intentional misperception...in other some mislead for the sake of how it makes things look.

[tabasco]

3. Wow, I'm really shocked!

It's not like a Clinton to tell a lie.

SHOCKED I TELLS YA!

[Kittycat]

4. I posted earlier about her debt problem too.

Seems she hasn't been paying her employee's medical benefits.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5191709&mesg_id=5191709

[rndmprsn]

5. say anything do anything...the clintons

bullshit is called

[BumRushDaShow]

6. Oh my.

They weren't ready on day one? :shrug:

[BeyondGeography]

7. These people are lame

Can't they just retire?

[JackORoses]

8. even Hillary's lies couldn't keep up with Obama's donations

[Az_lefty]

9. the Clinton's never tell the truth, it's all about image...

[Scurrilous]

13. K & R

:thumbsup:

[slinkerwink]

14. ten million came from her senate campaign account?

man, that's just bad.

[TheDonkey]

15. K&R. Wow. Look at the Hillary campaign lie with such ease

[high density]

16. If you read the LA times report they are talking about the entire sum so far since the beginning

The loan was apparently in January's numbers. I don't know when the senate money came over, but the fact the loan was in January makes the title of this thread incorrect.

"Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) was second in fundraising. She collected $34.6 million in February, pushing her total to $173.8 million. That includes $10 million from her Senate campaign account and a $5-million personal loan. Clinton owes consultants and other vendors an additional $3.7 million."

I assume by "that," the author of the article means the total overall amount.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-money21mar21,1,6702245.story

By the way I am not a Clinton supporter by any means, but I am a supporter of facts.

"McCain has now spent $58.4 million in his primary bid, surpassing the $50 million limit he would have faced if he participated in the public financing system he had been certified to join. McCain has decided not to accept the public matching funds, but the FEC wants him to assure regulators that he did not use the promise of public money as collateral for the loan."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gg3OITQSrWEcjqDl0g47q7STLcugD8VHTJNO0

[ingac70]

17. kick.

[Jane Austin]

19. Thank you for this information.

I wondered about the huge change in a month when Clinton lost eleven contests in a row.

It didn't make sense to me.

[grantcart]

21. This is actually stunning news

I had assumed that the only reason that they were continuing the campaign was because they were making money for a future war chest.

Now the only logical reason for them continuing the campaign is now gone.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

22. "included “$10 million from her Senate campaign account and a $5-million personal loan.”

It gets worser and worser....

[JPZenger]

23. Updated USA Today Article - Clinton spending $2.5 Mil/Day

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-03-21-feb-funds_N.htm

"Hillary Rodham Clinton upped the tempo of her fundraising and her spending last month, only to be eclipsed by rival Barack Obama. At month's end, with debts of nearly $9 million, her money was nearly spent and he was sitting atop $30 million in available cash. ...Obama set a single-month fundraising record, with more than $55 million in contributions.

Both Democrats ended up with more than $30 million in the bank, but Clinton can't use two-thirds of her cash on hand because it's only for the general election. That and her debt left her with less than $3 million in the black. The debt doesn't include the $5 million she lent her campaign in January.

Obama's fundraising juggernaut is unprecedented and gave him a significant advantage this month as they prepared for a confrontation in Pennsylvania on April 22. Obama's spending edge continued into March. An analysis of ad spending between Feb. 10 and March 10 by TNS Media Intelligence/CMAG had Obama spending $17 million to Clinton's $8.6 million."

[Qutzupalotl]

24. Apparently this was a reporter's error. See this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5193545

[futureliveshere]

25. Just checked - I agree

[DeadElephant_ORG]

26. I hate Hillary ... but I agree. Looks like a mistaken reading of that article