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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:57 AM
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Hillary Watched Wright's Character Assassination, Did Nothing Publicly And Secretly Pushed It
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 12:39 PM by cryingshame
The Clintons and their campaign sat by and publicly did nothing during the character assassination of Reverend Wright.

They did nothing while a good man who has done good work his whole life was mercilessly portrayed as crazed, hate-filled black man.

Reverend Wright appeared at the Clintons side in the White House when Bill was under attack for fucking around and getting caught.

When Clinton needed respected clergy to appear at his side to save his political career, Rev. Wright stood up with and for him.

Meanwhile, fast forward to Hillary's run for president and the Clintons not only choose to publicly do nothing to support a good man who previously stood up for THEM, they secretly used what was happening to Wright behind the scenes to sway super delegates.

Hillary, Bill and their campaign choose not just to remain silent regarding the character assassination of a good man who stood up for THEM in the past. The Clintons USED that character assassination behind the scenes for their own political advantage.

Imagine if the Clintons had the integrity and LEADERSHIP to have spoken out in support of Wright?

They would have gained in stature.

Even McCain and Huckabee came out looking better than the Clintons.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:59 AM
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1. Obama openly used past unfair attacks on Hillary to advocate for himself
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:01 PM
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3. sorry, that thread and your assertion is weak. Wright previously was there to save Clinton's ass
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 12:02 PM by cryingshame
They COULD have shown some integrity.

They took the cowardly, low road.

Even McCain and Huckabee came out looking better.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:08 PM
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11. Your scraping the bottom of the barrel mud slinging threads are a disgrace..
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 12:08 PM by Tellurian
they are divisive, mean spirited and do nothing but evoke animus from posters.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:10 PM
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14. OMFG!!!
This is through the looking glass shit.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:12 PM
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16. How original...
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:18 PM
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25. Because you're so predictable
You definately are predictable and hypocritical.
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:28 PM
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70. THE ARTICLE w/URL POSTED BY cryingshame DID NOT EVEN MENTION WRIGHT. THE WHOLE POST IS A LIE!
THE ARTICLE w/URL POSTED BY cryingshame DID NOT EVEN MENTION WRIGHT.

THE WHOLE POST IS A LIE!

These Obamaphiles will stop at nothing, nothing to malign and defame a fomer First Lady and fellow Democrat.

And these scummy, know-nothing bungs have the gall to talk about people throwing anyone under a bus?!

*ARRRRRGH!* ~*:banghead:~*:banghead:~*:banghead:~*:banghead: ...:nuke:



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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:34 PM
Response to Reply #70
83. RED FONTS! Wow that must be true!
But wtf is a 'bungs'?
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NobodyInParticular Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:27 PM
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32. Which Democrat is Rove supporting?
Please read #17: Who's working for Rove?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:44 PM
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40. LOL!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:05 PM
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6. Before many heard of Obama TeamClinton was undermining other Dem leaders
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 12:31 PM by blm
who would come forward in our party. Looks like now, those decisions to undermine other Democrats over the years is adding to the party's backlash against their style of party leadership.

Dems are more aware now of what Clintons will do....
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

and their curious protection of BushInc....
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

and their willingness to sabotage Dem voters....
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward


and validate RW attacks against a good Dems....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

and protect BushInc from accountability while closing government to the people...
http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:15 PM
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20. And as we all know, Obama will launch a full investigation on the Bush family
once he's president. There is every indication that he will.:eyes:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:20 PM
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27. haha! Zing!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:20 PM
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28. Nope - president doesn't investigate but they CAN impede or cooperate with investigations.
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 12:21 PM by blm
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:08 PM
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72. I expect his Attorney General, John Kerry will cooperate by handing over the voluminous
files he's been keeping on the Bush family.

If this doesn't occur shortly after Obama takes office, I guess you would have to admit that you backed the wrong horse.:shrug:
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 04:48 AM
Response to Reply #72
87. Or maybe AG Edwards? Kerry's more methodical; Edwards is more of a pit bull
Either would be stellar.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:34 PM
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79. If the investigation goes through, which I know for certain JK has said the senate
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 03:35 PM by blm
will pursue Bush's operations in Boston recently, then I expect a President Obama will cooperate a HELLUVA LOT MORE than President Clinton did.

What makes YOU so certain that the citizens of this nation will get MORE open government with Clintons than they will get from Obama?

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:34 PM
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36. Can't answer, o? Can a president IMPEDE or COOPERATE with an investigation?
And what have Dem presidents done in the past with serious investigations into BushInc's corruption that YOU have found worthy of your support?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #36
73. I voted for Clinton because I expected his domestic policies to bring
the country back on firm footing. He more than delivered.

I had no axe to grind with Poppy Bush. His departure was enough for me.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:31 PM
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77. So not one of the outstanding matters in BCCI showed up on 9-11, eh?
Protecting BushInc isn't what allowed a Bush2 to emerge?

You are so certain that Bush2 would have happened anyway, even if BCCI, Iraqgate and CIA drugrunning operations had been fullt revealed?

You think those buildings in NYC would have gone down anyway, even IF The global terror networks were revealed to the people of ALL countries to be funded and supported by official governments and their leaders, including GHWBush?

I don't. What makes YOU believe so?
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NobodyInParticular Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:13 PM
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17. Is the hand of Rove in this?
I have learned to pay more attention to hunches I have had: Last night I had an epiphany that it's Rove who is behind the fight between Hillary and Barack. How? He has placed moles as agent provocateurs among the ranks of Dems to fan the kind of flames that would destroy party unity beyond repair. Who are they? Look for them (probably no more than one or two on each side) among posters who strike the hardest against the opposing candidate. I may give some supporting thoughts in a later post.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #17
44. Do tell if you are suggesting that I am such a person.
And welcome to DU.
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NobodyInParticular Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #44
61. You would not be my first candidate
But a mole never ever looks like a mole...
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:07 PM
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55. Very classy avoid the point of the OP and try to hijack the thread.
You realize that your reflex defenses of the Clinton machinations is diminishing your own esteem and reputation.

The OP is right. When Clinton needed Wright he was their best friend. When Clinton could have returned the favor he was quiet.

But that is not why you should be upset. You should be upset because she lost a perfect opportunity to make political hay.

She could have come to Wright's defense and looked classy and smart. You should be pissed of at Clinton because she wasted another

chance to score. She had a perfect shot and she passed the ball.
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:24 PM
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66. THE ARTICLE w/URL POSTED BY cryingshame DID NOT EVEN MENTION WRIGHT - WHOLE POST IS BASED ON A LIE!
THE ARTICLE w/URL POSTED BY cryingshame DID NOT EVEN MENTION WRIGHT.

THE WHOLE POST IS BASED ON A LIE!

These Obamaphiles will stop at nothing, nothing to malign and defame a fomer First Lady and fellow Democrat.

And these scummy, know-nothing bungs have the gall to talk about people throwing anyone under a bus?!

*ARRRRRGH!* ~*:banghead:~*:banghead:~*:banghead:~*:banghead: ...:nuke:



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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #1
80. The OP is about Jeremiah Wright
Who is being pilloried by the MSM. He stood by the Clintons in their time of need, and they are standing idly by while he gets destroyed.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are presidential candidates; they can handle whatever is thrown at them. Rev. Wright is not running for President and does not deserve what is happening to him at this point in his life.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:00 PM
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2. Have the Clintons publicly mentioned Wright's presence at the White House
when Bill Clinton needed his support? Nope.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:03 PM
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4. Obama has done nothing but assassinate Clinton's character since this race began
you don't have a leg to stand on.
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:04 PM
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5. Yep tp "Obama has done nothing but assassinate Clinton's character since this race began" nt
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:05 PM
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7. ***Masturbatory Hillary-hating thread***
Sane DUers have long ago noticed that Clintophobes will attack Hillary no matter what she does or doesn't do. It's just really obvious to anyone not suffering from the pathology.
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NobodyInParticular Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #7
35. Where in the wings is Rove?
I cannot help thinking you might be joking. Don't you think this issue is too serious to merit banter? See post # 17
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #7
43. Masturbatory? I don't detect any signs of masturbation. Are you trying to tell us something?
Please don't. Some things are best kept private.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:05 PM
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8. Could be the shameful comments made by wright about bill 1/13
would maybe cause a pause in stepping forward.“Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain’t! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty.”Oh and on the video the pastor is seen to be moving his body to show the crowd how bill was riding dirty....

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:05 PM
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9. Prove it or admit you are lying.
All evidence says Clinton told her staff to not use the Wright fiasco.

And btw, what the fuck do Obama supporters do? Check their brains or memories at the door? How did Obama respond to Ferraro? Did he sit quietly by and instruct his followers to not use that against Clinton? Did he fire those of his staff who called her a racist?

And what about Obama's lies about Clinton's LBJ statement? Don't give me this "Obama is a good man and Hillary is a bad person." Bull FUCKING shit. The BEST you can say about him is that he's no better than other politicians. And personally, from what I've seen, I wouldn't compliment him that way.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:16 PM
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22.  You said "All evidence says Clinton told her staff to not use the Wright fiasco".
Of course the Clintons didn't want to push the issue. They were afraid their association with Wright would be made public.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #22
34. key word is PUBLICALY. They didn't push it in public. They choose to do so behind the scenes.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #34
39. Did you see DeeDee Meyers on the talk shows the other night?
I don't remember if it was Tuesday? She went around to each one and sadly said that now Obama was too damaged to be elected. I don't watch very much television and only caught that by accident.

So, they also pushed it via surrogates.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #9
37. You're comparing apples and oranges.
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 12:37 PM by sfexpat2000
The Clinton campaign stayed away from using Wright directly in public. Their surrogate DeeDee Meyers was sent out to say it wounded Obama beyond repair. And meanwhile, as per the NYTs, the campaign was pushing the same meme to super delegates.

And this on the back of a man who supported Bill during his crisis.

And NEWSFLASH: Geri IS a racist unlike Reverend Wright. Someone needs to tape her mouth shut before she talks to the Daily Breeze again or that's all she'll be remembered for.

All things are not equal. Yes, they are both politicians and their lips move. But Clinton has beat Obama at scuminess, and that's the truth.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:06 PM
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10. history book
You need to read a good history book to find out who's really been oppressing you all these years.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:08 PM
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12. That is the unvarnished truth , folks. nt
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:09 PM
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13. She has no sense of integrity, no backbone, no honor
very sad her actions or inactions in this entire ordeal.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. Read post #8. n/t

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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #13
49. there's a word for that
Scumbags
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:12 PM
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15. If Clinton would have tried to say anything about this issue
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 12:13 PM by shaniqua6392
everyone would have found something to fault her on. Even saying nothing at all and not getting involved in this has you people ready to chop her head off. She can do nothing right in your eyes. I thought it was a good idea for the other candidates to just stay out of it. Anything she said would have been fodder for misinterpretation.
on edit: How was she supposed to respond to Rev. Wright saying she did not know what it was like to be a N*****!!!
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Smelting Pot Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #15
21. True. I mean, look at the backlash against McCain. nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #15
59. If she had said, "I know Rev. Wright and I know that those comments are not typical
of his ministry" everyone would have fallen in love with her. She missed a big opportunity.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:15 PM
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19. This is an amazing post. That you would attack Clinton for not
supporting the guy who is running AGAINST her. The guy that calls her a liar every day in his stump speeches. The guy who called her a "Racist!"

Dang, people here will use anything and everything that did or did not happen to attack Clinton.

This is getting almost pathological.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #19
24. Did you read the OP?
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #19
52. **This is getting almost pathological.** (It passed pathological long ago.)
It is full blown Paranoia now. Some of these Obamaniacs hear voices and see visions that reveal all kinds of bad things about Hillary. Many think they can read her mind, and quite a few think God is talking to them about what a bitch He thinks she is.

Of course, they aren't ALL crazy. Some are just temporarily overpowered by Obama pheremones, and some -- a few -- actually support him without believing that Hillary Must Die!
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:16 PM
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23. Good for her for staying out of it.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:21 PM
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29. She can't do anything right ever, can she?
It's really getting boring..
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #29
48. Even when she does nothing, she's wrong! It's hilarious to the point of absurdity.
nt
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:22 PM
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30. Like I always say....
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 12:37 PM by cricket08
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!

GO HILLARY!!!!!

GO ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!

WE'VE GOT YOUR BACK!!!!

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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:29 PM
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33. ObamaCo. assassinated the character of two of Our finest
by allowing them to be painted as racist.It was his only way of winning in S.C.,if he didn't take the black vote then he was done.

He did it and he did it shamelessly by exploiting race and racism and allowing it to fester and be said as truth that the Clinton's were racist and you have the NERVE to sit here and expect Hillary Clinton to touch this debacle that centers around race for OBAMA'S sake!???!HAH!

IMAGINE if Obama had had the integrity and character to run on his own merit instead of taking out two of Our own in order to win.He wants to win at any and all cost.If he was a LEADER he would not have had to resort to or even have thought of exploiting race the way he and his wife and his cohorts have throughout his Campaign!

OBAMA needs to own this.It's his and his alone to deal with.

As for MC-LAME and HuckaFuck coming to his defense?They are chomping at the bit to have this disastrous man offered up in the general election.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #33
41. Horseshit. Bill shoved his own foot down his throat.
Hillary had a big, inexplicable lead over Obama among the African-American population, and it evaporated. Obama didn't steal their votes; team Clinton gave them away. Not shutting up Ferraro emptied the other barrel of the shotgun, and it was a direct hit to any chance of Hillary securing a significant percentage of the Black vote.

Don't blame Obama for this.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #41
56. Oh I will blame ObamaCo. -
Historians will state it as fact.Trust me on that fact. ;)
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #56
60. Yeah, and "historians" will judge the Bush admin as wonderful. Just ask him.
I doubt the historians will give a damn about this incident.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #33
47. Two of our finest alright
............. .............

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZsYWiywdCA



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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #47
53. Yep ya got that right.
Two of Our FINEST Democrats.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #53
62. Oh, I get it. You think McCain is a Democrat, and that's why Hillary is campaigning for him.
It all makes sense, in a perverted way.

The reality, of course, is that McCain is not a Democrat. You might want to look that up.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:37 PM
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38. And then she drank the blood of a thirty kittens while burning a flag.
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

Don't you have better things to do? Maybe research McCain and other GOP candidates?

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #38
67. Research McCain? Why? Has Hillary run out of compliments for the old bastard?
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:16 AM
Response to Reply #67
85. Guess that whole research McCain thing is lost on you.
You do know that you're not doing Barack Obama any good by acting the uberputz?

You do know that, right?

Gotta admit, not a strong fan of either "front runners", but damn, I've seen more crap spewing lately from one side.

It's called focusing on the real enemy to our union. McCain and his handlers.

Get a clue.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:55 PM
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42. Sorry, but I don't blame Hillary for this one at all.
She could have ended this sooner by stepping in, but it was not her obligation to do so.

Instead, Obama took this as the perfect occasion to make a terrific speech on the subject of race. We should actually thank Hillary for not cutting short this opportunity.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:02 PM
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50. it's not about blame. It's about what a person chooses to do or not do. And for whom. And
under what circumstances.

And I don't think she could have ended it.

She could have used it to her advantage in a way that would've highlighted her integrity.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:21 PM
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63. Ok. We agree.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:03 PM
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51. Have you seen the unFoxed video of Wright's sermon?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:22 PM
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64. Actually, two videos. The "chicken coming home to roost" and "God damn America." Yep.
I saw them both.

This is exactly the kind of crap we can expect from here forward. Obama handled it like a champ. Like ... a president.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:26 PM
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69. He did a very complicate thing very well.
I don't think I've ever seen anything like it, ever.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:58 PM
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45. Anyone expecting ethical behavior from Hill or Bill
will be sorely disappointed.
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:00 PM
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46. What, you expect baby BO to be bailed out every time his campaign....
...hits a bump? JW was NOT Hillary's business at all to deal with. He had a photo op with Bill C during his presidency.

Go jump in the lake, any lake.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:06 PM
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54. Sorry, Wright is a crank not worth defending. nt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:08 PM
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57. This ain't tiddly-winks. Now it's Obama's turn. Can't he handle it?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:24 PM
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65. I think you missed some important events. He handled it just fine.
Did you just awaken from a weeks-long nap?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:20 PM
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74. Then I guess he didn't need any help from Hillary. So why the whining OP?
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 03:25 PM by WinkyDink
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:56 PM
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81. Let me make sure I understand: the OP is whining because you weren't paying attention?
Try to tackle one thing at a time.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:09 PM
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58. Wright was Clinton's spiritual guide.(link)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/ministers091298.htm

But for most of those who were there, the moment was historical. For this one morning, they said, the power dynamics of a nation were reversed, with many seeing themselves not as guests before the country's president, but as spiritual guides to a healing sinner. Many mentioned that Clinton looked "sad" and "tired," that he had been up until 4 a.m. preparing his speech. They talked of his pulling down his glasses as a sign of aging and vulnerability. Some swore they saw tears in his eyes.


Wright helped save their political future, and Hillary thows him under the bus.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:26 PM
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68. One man's 'character assination' is another man's 'public vetting'
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:32 PM
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71. The OP was talking about Wright, not Obama.
Do Hillaryites not read or something?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:23 PM
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75. And Obama watched the Clintons be called racists in SC
and never raised a finger to deny that it was true.

Therefore, he's on his own on this one.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:28 PM
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76. Oh, he said it wasn't true
a few weeks later, after the damage was done.

The notion that Clinton is responsible for fighting Obama's battles is just stupid.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:13 PM
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82. I used to not have strong feelings about Obama one way or the other.
But at this point I have decided that I could never vote for him in November, I have never disliked a Democratic candidate as much as I dislike this man.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:36 PM
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84. Except this really isn't about Obama. It's about the Clintons sitting back
while Wright, who stood by Bill in a crisis, was smeared from here to eternity by the wingnuts.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:34 PM
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78. The only friends the Clintons have left are the ones they paid for
plus the bomb-Iran crowd.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:22 AM
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86. Obama is a big boy, he can take care of himself...he doesn't need Hillary's help.
You've gone off the deep end.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 05:16 AM
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88. The Clintons are NOT racists
as far as I know
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:24 PM
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89. kick
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