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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:24 PM
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GALLUP: Clinton -1, Obama +2

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:25 PM
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1. Sorry, pastorbaters
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:25 PM
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2. LOL!
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:25 PM
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3. lol
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:54 PM
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28. hahahahaha
:rofl:

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:03 PM
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35. Look at March 16 -Mar 20, sorry Obama fans. Clinton is winning!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:06 PM
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39. I guess it depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 01:08 PM by TahitiNut
Strangely, I see "is" on March 21. :eyes:

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:19 PM
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42.  Oh, let's ignore the last five days of that poll showing Hillary winning ? Hahah
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:20 PM
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43. dupe
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 01:20 PM by barb162
self delete
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:23 PM
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49. Of course you won't, luv! Of course not! Just hold on to your binky!
:eyes:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:42 PM
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52. binky?
?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:21 PM
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44. ROFL!
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:22 PM
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48. Magnificent! n/t
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:51 PM
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54. That is fucking HILLarious
OMG - you win post of the YEAR award!

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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:19 PM
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56. Post of the year. n/t
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:26 PM
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4. This is a few days old
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:26 PM
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5. Nope...
this is the new one.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:28 PM
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9. Ummmm-No
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:33 PM
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18. This is the new one. It's not on the website yet but follows the trend -
Hillary was up by 49/42 and then 48/43 yesterday.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:40 PM
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26. You Are Correct
How did the poster get the image before it made the website?

Oh well...
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:02 PM
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33. I keep the url open in my browser
Every day, I advance the date and refresh periodically.  I
actually hadn't realized that they hadn't yet linked it on
their own site.  I'll turn HTML formatting off so you can see
the URL. 032108 is the date, tomorrow it will be 032208

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/032108DailyUpdateGraph1.gif



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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:22 PM
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46. Good Work
Because the site is my homepage...


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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:05 PM
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37. Go Hillary!! Hurray! She's whuppin' Obama
and she'll win at the Convention.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:34 PM
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19. Yes it is.
Yesterday's results had Obama down 48-43, just as this graph shows.
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mohc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:36 PM
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22. Not to mention
The poll there has through the 19th and this new one is through the 20th. An old poll that was predicting the future...that must be it!
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:27 PM
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6. Obama is back!!!!!1
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:29 PM
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13. Obama
More evidance the speech did what It needed to.It will be Intresting to see If this rebound gets as much airtime as when she lead 49 to 42.It Is now back as a deadheat and this was pefore the passportgate,and the Richardson endorsment.
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:38 PM
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23. CNN was still running the 49-42 poll this morning
as if it were the latest results.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:28 PM
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No it's not - the last date plotted is yesterday
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:27 PM
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7. Lots of good stuff today for Obama.
I wonder if there will be a Richardson bounce?
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:29 PM
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12. Yep
I can't imagine losing ground in tomorrow's results. We're not only adding in good news, but the bad news days are dropping off the 3 day average.
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thesubstanceofdreams Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:28 PM
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8. Link? n/t
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:29 PM
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10. Hillary's Nuclear attack has fizzled
She is done for.
God, she is so very selfish to keep dragging her supporters back into the trenches with her.
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:29 PM
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11. And so...
... Obama faces a political crisis on possibly the most inflammatory subject in the nation, complete with made-for-tabloid video spread all over the nation... and it causes a blip in his poll numbers for a week after he steps up and owns it like this country hasn't seen in a very long time, in a manner that has some portions of the right wing practically in open revolt against their handlers refusing to attack him over it any more, and even praising him.

But remember everyone, empty suit. No chance in the GE against the terrifying Republican attack machine.

I can only hope more people start catching on to what we have here.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:29 PM
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14. Speech bounce!
....

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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:31 PM
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15. Awww Look.....
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 12:32 PM by Megahurtz
it didn't work.

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mohc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:32 PM
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16. In one more day
The horrible numbers that produced the 49-42 deficit Obama was in before the speech will roll out of the 3 day average with the next release. For him to be down by just two in today's release he almost certainly was ahead in the last day's polling. Tomorrow's release may very well give him a 2 or 3 point lead depending on just how big he was down by on the polling from the 17th.

A word of caution though: Obama may very well have reestablished his lead since the speech, and that itself is very good. But what these 3 day averages hide is how much of a swing there can be on any single day. Though he was down 7 in that poll release, the results for the single day were probably much worse, I would expect he was down as much as 12 points at the peak of Clinton's support (Just look at the head-to-head polling from SUSA's state polling taken during the same time). Yes he seems to be recovering, but it concerns me that his support dropped so much so quickly. It is quite unusual to see swings that pronounced and there may be potential for it in the future. The good news from this is that Obama responded within the window of the polling and seems to have kept the damage to a minimum. Had he waited 1 or 2 days, we could have been looking at him down 15 in these polls.
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:38 PM
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24. I have noticed that Obama's support seems somewhat soft as well
Kind of concerning especially in light of New Hampshire but on the other hand, Hillary Clinton's support could be said to be soft as well since her bounce didn't hold. Tough to say. All I know is that I nearly fell off the hopemobile a week ago today. Obama did exactly what I thought he should have done though and survived. Now, I'm back on the hopemobile stronger than I've been in this whole campaign.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:40 PM
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25. I think after the Speech, his support isn't as soft as it used to be...
....
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mohc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:53 PM
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27. I'm not so sure
Since Iowa, Obama has seen his national poll numbers rise or hold with the exception of 4 dips. The first dip was after New Hampshire, when the numbers were more volatile, and people were reacting to Clinton's unexpected win. His next two dips were directly before the largest primary days: Super Tuesday and March 4. He dipped about 11 points against Clinton leading into Super Tuesday (-2 to -13) and dipped 12 points leading into March 4 (+8 to -4). With the Wright fiasco, he dipped 13 (+6 to -7). The amount of support he has lost each time is greater each time, although just by a single point. Whats especially troubling is two of these drops were in the days leading up to the big voting days. Unless Obama can show that his numbers have in fact hardened, which I would say the Wright ordeal shows they have not yet, then he will be vulnerable leading into an election if he is not holding larger leads. We will have to wait and see, but if the dips continue, and if the continue to get bigger, we will have a problem.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:03 PM
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36. There's no question that the Obama variance is higher than the Clinton variance
.. but the 'soft' top-end support for Obama still isn't as problematic as the 'hard' opposition to Clinton - something she has yet to overcome. The very 'softness' on Obama's upside indicates that the 'hardened' opposition isn't anywhere near the size of Clinton's ... and people are more open to Obama.

As an independent liberal (Kucinich fan) with no horse in this race at this point, this is what I'm seeing even on DU.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:06 PM
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38. none of us are sure of anything
We can just work with the tools we have, and have some faith in them.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:33 PM
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17. Obama is now fully vetted.
He got literally the worst that the Beltway could throw at him. He was cool, he was calm, he faced pressure, and came out the other side with the greatest speech since I Have A Dream!

This was Obama's 3AM moment, and his response proves that he, more than anyone else, is the one who should be answering that red phone.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:34 PM
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20. He's closed the gap post-Speech and it's obvious
Obama's gaining his appeal back as the story is all but dead now and many positive things have happened.
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:35 PM
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21. lol
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:56 PM
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29. March 20th : Clinton 47, Obama 45 GO HILLARY!!!!
Thanks for posting!
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Georgie_92 Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:57 PM
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30. GOBAMA!!!!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:00 PM
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31. Obama's polls are in a death spiral.
Assuming if you're a Clinton supporter, and don't pay attention to math.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:15 PM
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40. Take a look at that OP's graph again for the last few days. Clinton's winning
by a few points.
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:22 PM
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47. "winning"
Rasmussen Tracking 03/17 - 03/20
45/44 Obama +1.0

CBS News 03/15 - 03/18
46/43 Obama +3.0

CNN 03/14 - 03/16
52/45 Obama +7.0

USA Today/Gallup 03/14 - 03/16
49/42 Obama +7.0

Reuters/Zogby 03/13 - 03/14
47/44 Obama +3.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html

Notice that all but one of those are post Wright.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:02 PM
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32. What's the margin of error?
Is the Clinton lead still "statistically significant"?
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:03 PM
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34. Nope. he is now within the MOE.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:18 PM
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41. Yep. With most polls, it's typically a 4-5% margin of error.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:21 PM
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45. I always ask this question about the Gallup...
...and I think I'm usually told 3-4%.

We really need to relax...and to mistrust polls in general.
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:24 PM
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50. I don't trust any single poll
I wouldn't have posted this if Clinton supporters hadn't been salivating over Gallup results only two days ago. I prefer to look at aggregates, like rcp. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:18 PM
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55. Gallup looks like a lone voice in that
All the other polls that RCP quotes show Obama still in the lead.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:31 PM
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51. Race is in stasis
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 01:31 PM by Teaser
Rasmussen and Gallup are *completely* decorrelated the last few days. Tells me that, right now, there are no underlying trends.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:47 PM
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53. We're trending back up, it would seem!
Guess all my pessimism was for nothing.

Goddamn I hate election season. One day it's going to give me an ulcer.
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nell2323 Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:40 PM
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57. Kick
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