Nearly 300 years of slavery and Jim Crow, and I'm hearing Democrats--

[Skidmore]

members of the party that saw to it that civil rights were enacted into law--parse the existence of bigotry and prejudice. I'm hearing a former Democratic Pary President speak in code about these issues as being "distractions." I'm hearing the discussion that was introduced this week be dumbed down to basic Freeper parsing rather than asking the nation to aspire to be better. Those of you on these boards who have elected to go to the gutter are doing the Democratic Party no favors. You do your candidate no favors and your party, unless that is your objective, of course. Some of will not follow the party into that gutter you are trawling nor will we support a candidate who gives tacit or overt nods to denigrating whole communities and historical issues. We rise to reclaim and build the nation anew or we let it sink in the muck if ignorance and greed. This is the most fundamental choice before us now. Think carefully about what you support and the words you use.

[IndianaJones]

1. typical white people? nt.

[ecstatic]

3. "seven out of 10 white people show unconscious racial prejudice, including those who claim to be

bias-free."

http://www.aarpmagazine.org/people/Articles/a2004-03-18-mag-hatred.html


So are you typical or atypical? I'm curious.

[IndianaJones]

sorry..not white. nt.

[elixir]

24. You can't guilt us into thinking this campaign is about race, it's not. It's about the economy, the

war, our culture, education. If any of these included discussions of race, fine, but, don't turn into a discussion of race just because of Rev. Wright.

[ecstatic]

35. huh? It's not about race. It's HRC who has forced Obama to address

all the race baiting. He didn't want to be the race candidate.

[Pringles]

34. Black people prefer lighter skin, too.

http://www.blackcollegewire.org/studentlife/070611_colorism/

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/47853/

http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/node/7830

I'd say that pretty much all groups are subject to the same kinds of brainwashing on this, as the article you linked to suggests. It's not innate, but it looks like it's pretty "typical" of all races.

[ecstatic]

36. So they say...

I don't, but it's impossible for anyone (man, woman, black, white, etc.) to live in a vacuum when racist/sexist ideas are thrust upon us from childhood on up.

[Pringles]

37. Amen.

[Vinca]

4. Pulled out of context?

:mad:

[NanBo]

5. typical RW talking point

without benefit of the full context.

[Skidmore]

6. Are you one?

[IndianaJones]

8. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5196326&mesg_id=5196383

[elixir]

25. Please define the "typical white person".

[Skidmore]

28. I don't believe I was speaking to you. I was asking another person

on this thread for a clarifiecation of his/her response.

[KittyWampus]

10. typical asshole?

[IndianaJones]

12. sure...but I can admit it...unlike typical white peoples sudden concern over race issues. nt.

[stillcool]

30. It seems to me that those

typical white people who are 'suddenly concerned' over race issues are those Clinton/McCain supporters who had previously not had their own racist attitudes tested. As well as those who believe race-baiting is a 'winner' for scraping up votes. I believe there are many people (Black and White) in this country who dare not look at themselves for fear of what they might find.

[ShortnFiery]

11. IMO Bill Clinton today = *typical white politician* playing Lee Atwater's Southern Strategy.

Patriotic Americans :wink: :wink: not members of "the other" race spewing white guilt. :puke:

[stillcool]

29. Typical BS..

[Forkboy]

39. Don't feed him...he's a waste.

[LaurenG]

2. And in my opinion way past time!

K and R

[cooolandrew]

7. Yes, Democrats are the party that stands against injustice than create some. Let's do it right.

[The_Casual_Observer]

9. Obama did the "aspire to better" stuff AFTER the Wright thing came to a full boil.

A platitude laden lofty speech fobbed off on the public to take the heat off his sorry ass.

[knixphan]

13. luckily his sorry ass leads in pledged delegates...

[elixir]

26. Absolutely, we don't disagree on this. Should he turn the discussion back on us after his pastor

and he screw up? No. He brought up race, not me.

[ShortnFiery]

14. But his stereotypes of Ferraro, Wright and his Grandmother were NOT demeaning but based on past

experience and holds a "common thread" of correlation. You should not trash someone on that because he was not USING it to disrespect the people he was referring to - just empathize with their resentments and fears..

Much UNLIKE Bill Clinton's past "southern strategy" in SC and his PRESENT antics in NC. Way to channel the ghost of Lee Atwater Bill. Stay Classy! :puke:

[elixir]

27. So it's OK for Obama to stereotype but not Bill Clinton? His antics? It's OK

to be angry at the white guy. pretty convenient isn't it?

[Whisp]

31. hey there, good to see you again.

:)

[Skidmore]

15. When ya'll are done ginning up the rhetoric and the hatred,

the problems associated with racial division will still out there in the nation. Do you really think you are doing the nation any good by engaging in this inflammatory politicking?

[The_Casual_Observer]

17. And that speech/ Obama will do what?

Two days later he was all about "a typical white person" Agent of change my ass.

[Skidmore]

20. Obtuse parsing from a campaign desparate to make hay while the sun shines.

The Clinton campaign and her surrogates from both sides of the aisle are close to bankrupting the nation on outrage. I'm so done with the Clintons, and largely because of this game they are playing. It's a dangerous one for the nation.

[DURHAM D]

19. Do you honestly think Obama wants to discuss racial division?

He was just trying to save his presidential "ass"pirations.

[anamandujano]

22. He uses racial division as a campaign tactic and doesn't seem to care

what it does to the nation.

[DURHAM D]

16. With absolutely no mentioned of the way forward.

Obama forgot to give the last ten minutes of his speech. He could have borrowed heavily from 15-20 major speeches by Bill Clinton but Obama wasn't thinking about race - he was thinking about Obama. It was an ass covering campaign speech - nothing less and nothing more.

[ShortnFiery]

18. Bill Clinton doesn't consider this *typical* black man patriotic enough.

:eyes:

My point: when you use "typical" "average" "normal" to help you UNDERSTAND a sub-set of the population ... to empathize and truly put yourself in their place, you are not being racist. However, when you nuance "code speak" (black men are crazy and unpatriotic) then you are race baiting. :thumbsdown:

[DURHAM D]

21. Oh No - you came back.

Got to go edit some options.

[ShortnFiery]

23. Good to see you too. Sincerely, may peace be with you.

I wish that you would try to understand but your mind and heart are shut.

:hug: :hi:

[EFerrari]

32. The whole speech was about the way forward. Geezus. n/t

[EFerrari]

33. I've decided that instead of being angry with Bill Clinton

I'm a little worried about him.

He doesn't sound like the Bill Clinton I'm used to hearing. He's only 62 or so, too.

[BenDavid]

38. well you can look no further then the obigot 08 campaign. For

those that do not believe a black man can play the race card and race bait then you have observed it first hand in this election. Only one person and one campaign could have done this and caused dem to be fight against dem and that person is obama.

we had this election won until obama decided he had to "unite us".....Great job obama and maybe you should have kept your day job as senator and not come nov 5, 2008 set the dems back for anotehr 8 years.