Pat Buchanon: "It ghettoizes him...." speaking of Obama and the Wright situation

[jeffrey_X]

He just said this on MSNBC.

WTMF????

This shit is just going to fucking far.

[BklynChick]

1. he should get fired. period.

[Life Long Dem]

24. He still gave the GE to Obama

[baldguy]

2. Well, because he's BLACK of course.

[Life Long Dem]

27. He referred this to his base.

[buff2]

3. More to come from the repukes

it's going to be bad.

[Mooney]

58. I can't wait.

I'm not afraid of them.

[LSparkle]

4. I'm getting really tired of MSNBC over-using him and Joe Scabrous

It seems like every show has one or the other on, spewing this crap. This morning
I awakened to Scabrous on "Today" (they're bleeding over into network NBC now!) and
expect to see Bat :puke: Annan again on Abrams' "Verdict" before the evening is over.

[lapfog_1]

42. They terminated Tucker's pile of crap

and yet I see his sorry ass all over the MESSNBC all the time.

The only decent people there are KO and his staff, and Chuck Todd (who sticks to doing the math) and, of course, Rachael Maddow!

[Bullet1987]

5. This story has all but died...there's nothing new to talk about

I was more shocked by what Chuck Todd said.

[LSparkle]

The part about Indiana? Or something else he said?

[bicentennial_baby]

6. What did he say?

I wasn't listening.

[blonndee]

What did he say? I missed it. nt

[Drunken Irishman]

7. What'd Todd say?

[writes3000]

8. What did Todd say? (On Edit, LMAO at all of us!)

[Bullet1987]

11. He said if Obama wins the primaries on May 6 in North Carolina and Indiana

then it's over. But if Clinton won...then it's over for Obama (which is kinda dumb I think).

[Drunken Irishman]

14. Even if Clinton only wins by a slim margin?

[Bullet1987]

15. He didn't say...

[LSparkle]

16. OMG -- I didn't hear that the reverse was true about it being over for him

I only heard that if he wins Indiana (and I guess NC -- didn't hear that), it
was going to be over for her. Did he give any background as to why he thinks
it'll be over for HIM at that point? He'll still have more pledged delegates;
was it something to do with the SDs getting scared over the Wright mess?

[Bullet1987]

21. He didn't elaborate...I think though he was basing it

on a hypothetical implosion of support of Obama from White voters. Make no mistake, Obama has taken a shot over the past week...but I don't see it as something he can't recover from. I mean, the polls are kinda all over the place. Some show that Obama lost ground, others show him regaining ground. I really think we have to wait over the next few weeks before we make comments like that. Which is why I thought what Todd said was kinda baffling.

[Drunken Irishman]

29. I think he'll take NC and Indiana, anyway.

So this is really a moot point.

[LSparkle]

35. That isn't his style, to be alarmist or drop bombshells

Although I do remember him being far more deferential toward HRC earlier in the race when
Obama was still a longshot. Stay tuned, I guess.

[shimmergal]

59. Hmmm. Didn't hear Todd, but

I'm absolutely floored at a mention of Indiana being so decisive. I've lived there most of my life and never felt my vote in the primary would have any effect--it's always before been over by that time.

Plus, Republicanism seems to be the default loyalty for most Indiana residents. I hope that's changed, but...?

[writes3000]

20. Interesting.

I'm curious to see if the Dem party allows it to last that long. But I can see why they might and if so, why Todd's argument makes some sense.

The tough thing will be if it's close. Hopefully, it won't be.

[City Lights]

39. Hmmm...I wonder why he said that.

Makes me wonder what else he knows since he's been the one so upfront about her math problem.

[LSparkle]

13. Truly -- I think Todd has some credibility so I want to know what was shocking

[blonndee]

9. LOL - you've got our attention!

[goclark]

10. Morning Joe's Best Friend

They are always making decisions based on what they made work in the 60's.

I have to turn them off and listen to Air America.

I'm so much more relaxed when listening to Randy etc.

[ecstatic]

12. And Eugene and David G. let him get away with it, unchecked, unchallenged

Eugene, why the --- were you smiling as they tore Obama a new one by distorting his views on race?

They know they can say anything around you and you will just smile and take it. :puke:

[LSparkle]

18. Yeah, I was surprised by Robinson's lack of response

He's been good at supporting Obama -- even though he doesn't yell when he does it --
so to just see him smile was weird.

[ecstatic]

28. Maybe he was in shock. I sure hope he finds his voice soon nt

[BeyondGeography]

17. Pat has been dying to say that the whole campaign

[LSparkle]

19. He's just getting revenge for having been the "forgotten demo" for most

of this race -- white Catholic guys. He's absolutely revelling in PA because it's
"his people" who will be calling the shots.

[jeffrey_X]

32. Somebody needs to force him to explain exactly what he means by that comment

Don't use that Republican code word bullshit, say it like a man. But we all know if he explained that comment in lay mens terms then he would be an outright racist.

[MzShellG]

49. Thank you! nt

[Life Long Dem]

22. It means 527's will not hurt Obama!

[Bullet1987]

30. Pat basically said he thinks it's going to be an issue for the rest of the entire campaign

I agree more with Eugene who said the story just doesn't have any lasting power because it's been talked up to death already and eventually we have to move to another story. Pat is the one who would love to keep bringing it up every chance he gets...and in his perfect world it would be a major story every day...but that's just not going to happen. Case in point being today where the issue was barely talked about in the media outside of a "week in review" type of statement.

[Bonobo]

23. Now THAT reminds me of Hillary's "Slum lord" comment.

I said it at the time. She was trying to paint him with the "ghetto/slum" association.

[K Gardner]

25. We have GOT to get some organized kind of effort going here.. would MOVE ON or the Civil Rights

Commission help? There was an article I posted that said a member of the US Civil Rights Comm needs to start looking into racial matters with the media. This is absolutely UNCONSCIENABLE ! Should we organize a phone call BOMB to MSNBC or the Parent Corp?

Any ideas, thoughts or contacts that could help? Surely somebody is already doing something ! Hell, if the Clintons can do it, why can't the MILLIONS of us who are turning out for Barack?

[jefferson_dem]

26. And that was after he talked about the "albatross around Obama's kneck"...

The other panelists jaws were literally hitting the floor.

Fucking gross.

[Bullet1987]

31. I notice he loves making innuendo comments about nooses

[K Gardner]

33. MSNBC CONTACT INFO: 201-583-5000 (address and fax below)

MSNBC
One MSNBC Plaza
Secaucus, NJ 07094
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

[e-mail]
[e-mail] - this is gregory's new show that Buchanan was on
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

[jeffrey_X]

41. Thanks...just sent an email..

David,

If you are going to run your new show with dignity and honor than you need to force Pat Buchanon to explain exactly what he means by saying the Wright situation “Ghettoizes him (Obama)…” It’s a disgrace that this thing is still an issue and it’s an even bigger disgrace that a coward like Buchanon has to use code words to get his point across.

Force him to be accountable for his racism. Force him to explain exactly what he means by the that comment.

Do the right thing.

Jeff in New York

[DLnyc]

51. I just sent one also:

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Dear Sirs:

I would like to point out that your use of Pat Buchanan on your show as a 'commentator' is demeaning to your show, to your network, to the medium of television in general, to the country and to the human race in general. I'm sorry he got his nose broken as a kid, but the rest of us have moved on by now.

Thank You,
--A concerned citizen
========

(Actually I don't even own a TV . . . and Mr. B. is one of the reasons for that.)

[K Gardner]

55. Good one, mine was similar but more.. well, angry. I've been nice til now, but this was over the

top and inexcusable.

[DLnyc]

66. Yeah, something about Pat. Makes you want to kick something.

As somebody said about his speech the the Repub convention, "It probably sounded better in the original German."

[DeadElephant_ORG]

34. I'm SURE he would have used "ghetto" in comments about ANY candidate. -- NOT !!!

[PoliticalAmazon]

36. In defense of Pat Buchanan... (please read before flaming)

I don't agree with the vast majority of what Buchanan opines, but I do respect him as an interviewer. Usually he comes prepared to the table, he doesn't interrupt, he actually asks questions and doesn't pose his own opinion as a question to a guest, and he has brilliant insight.

However, for the first time a few weeks ago I saw him totally lose it. It was on MSNBC, one of the Olberman-led election coverages. I have since seen him twice lose it on MSNBC.

This is not like him. However, there is mental illness in his family. His sister, Bay, is seriously unbalanced. One of his brother's broke into a Clinton associate's garage and trashed a vehicle.

Anyway, I think there is something about this election that really has him agitated.

Anyway, just my perspective on Buchanan.

[K Gardner]

43. Then there are TWO commentators on MSNBC who appear to be seriously

unbalanced to me: Buchanan and Scarborough. Both of these seriously look VERY ANGRY, they shout, they're near violent in their verbal abuse at times, and it is frightening to watch on a mainstream news channel.

[City Lights]

44. Those two would be a better fit over at Fox.

I don't understand why MSNBC keeps them on staff. They're unprofessional, and reflect poorly on the network as a whole.

I started contacting Mourning Joe's sponsors today. I want him off the air.

[K Gardner]

45. Do you have a list of sponsors? It is seriously an outrage that he is on air for 3 hrs q.day and

allowed to spew hate and shout down guests, rather than provide any type of news coverage.

[City Lights]

46. I found the list over at Dkos and can't find the diary right now.

I've gotta run out, but I'll look again when I get back and post the link here if I can find it. :hi:

on edit - found it:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/21/6332/46078

[K Gardner]

54. Thanks SO much !

[PoliticalAmazon]

61. I think we need to hear conservative opinion

Buchanan--before this election--was very professional. He was dignified in a field where pundits routinely talk over each other, interrupt, and scream at each other. He presented his ideas by making sound, logical arguments.

I think we cannot let ourselves get too in-bred by listening only to liberal voices. We need to hear the conservative side, and I would rather hear it from someone dignified like Buchanan than smirking Scarborough or Mr. ad hominem himself, Tucker Carlson.

Just my opinion...your mileage may vary.

[City Lights]

64. I'm not opposed to a conservative opinion.

I'd prefer someone who wasn't a bigot. Buchanan has gone rabid over Rev. Wright. It's ugly. Ditto for JoeScar. In Joe's case, he's a sexist too.

[K Gardner]

67. I actually enjoy some of the conservative commentators and I USED to enjoy

PB. But something has happened to him and to Scarborough. This has less to do with Obama than it does with hate speech, vile and bitter anger and over the top commentary that has NOTHING to do with fact. They're not giving us conservatism. They're giving us hate.

Neither one of them has bothered me until the Wright business came up, and they're rabid. Its ugly.

[PoliticalAmazon]

60. I did research on Lori Klausutis's ME's background

Lori Klausutis was an aide in Scarborough's Florida office who was murdered and the murder was covered up. Scarborough could not account for his whereabouts during the murder time period.

The ME who did the postmortem, Michael Berkland, D.O., said she'd died from natural causes which cuased her to fall, hitting the edge of a desk. As I recollect the postmortem, to do this she would have had to have fallen from a ladder because the blow was on the top of her head. She also would have had to have bounced ten feet away, because that is where her body was and she did not crawl there nor was she drug there; the blood pooled right where she fell. The "natural cause"? A heart arrhythmia. Lori was a freaking MARATHONER. She had no history of heart arrhythmia (although Berkland at one point lied to the press and said she did).

I did an extensive background on Dr. Berkland.

Michael Berkland is a piece-of-shit fixer. That means his medical opinion and judgments are for sale. He "fixes" things for people so they aren't convicted by concocting a medical story to prove they are innocent.

I have a stack of records over 12" thick on him and his botched cases. I spent a week talking to the licensing agencies and county officials in Missouri, the state where Berkland lost his medical practice. They all wanted to talk about him.

Then I was given a copy of a handwritten letter. It was written by the mother-in-law of a young wife and mother who had died of a perforated uterus (botched D&C in a hospital). The ME (not Berkland) said she died of "natural causes." So the husband and his mother (the woman who wrote the letter) contracted with Dr. Berkland to do an independent postmortem on the woman. He took their money then kept stalling them and stalling them. Finally, they insisted on him releasing the body so they could bury her. In the meantime Berkland had been fired as ME in Missouri and, after he left, he snuck back in and took this young woman's BRAINS.

They had to go get a court-order to get them from him. When the marshall went to pick up the brains, Berkland took him out to his car, and they were in the fucking BACK SEAT in a jar.

He had lied so often when testifying as an ME in Missouri that cases ended up being overturned because of his perjury. He would testify to exonerate the police when they had screwed something up so bad that someone ended up dead. He's a fixer.

So that he was able to, with this history, get a job in Florida is highly suspicious. I called the osteopath who headed Florida's version of the medical board and asked him why a man who was in the process of losing his licence to practice in Missouri was given license to practice in Florida, and he was very vague and evasive.

Did I mention that Berkland was an intern at Fort Leavenworth medical hospital during the time Bush Jr was in the service? I never could make a connection, but I still think about it. It's just one of those hinky coincidences that stands out.

So when, months later, I heard Scarborough laugh about Lori's death--I cried.

She was in the prime of her life. She was murdered in Scarborough's office. And, not only does he get off scott-free, without even an investigation, but he then LAUGHS about it?

[K Gardner]

65. Do you have a blog or anywhere this info is posted permanently? Because it needs to be.. this is

one of those things that just slips by, until people start poking at it. Looks like you poked it with a hot coal and maybe somebody will pick up the torch if we make enough noise.

[Yes We Did]

37. One dumb, bumbling idiot... whose out of touch...

I don't understand why MSNBC give him any face time on any cable show. He makes conservatives look really, really, really, really uneducated. This makes MSNBC look really, really, really, really stupid for letting him in front of a camera. He and Scarborough. Wow! Both of them out of touch.

[City Lights]

38. How can we get Pat off the air?

I've emailed numerous times a day about him and I know others have too. I can only conclude that they approve of what he is saying.

Countdown is the only hour worth watching on MSNBC. The rest of their line up sucks ass.

[DURHAM D]

40. I am surprised at some of the up thread comments.

Clearly few were around in the 90s to watch the media go after Bill and Hillary back then. It was far worse. You really think you can stop them by writing letters or screaming about it?

[DLnyc]

47. yes

[Emit]

52. Hey! Can't beat them, just join them...

That's what some DUers are doing here. Can't beat them, join them...

[KaptBunnyPants]

48. Damn. I guess Obama has lost the hopeless bigot vote.

This guy has been hating minorities since before Obama was born. His overt bigotry should have made him taboo for serious news programs. Too bad we have so few of those.

[meow mix]

50. plz write them at

[e-mail]

dang i do this a few times, every single day.. about this exact issue Pat Buchanan racism constantly

[meow mix]

53. heres todays message

"Why are you and Pat Buchanan always so racist?" (subject)

"every 5 seconds you and Pat Buchanan are being racist pigs.
today he's up to saying Obama "Ghettoizes" again..

You are turning into Fox except worse."


then they never even write me back!

[City Lights]

62. Thanks. That's a new one for me.

I've been flooding [e-mail] to no avail.

[Mike03]

56. It really is getting atrocious.

It's not just racism but sexism, but I refused to admit that this could possibly be going on until recently, so maybe others will get it too, and rebel. It's disgusting beyond words.

[Cha]

57. he should get his fucking mouth

washed out with sanitizer. This will make some people more determined than ever to have Obama for our Prez.

[Hoof Hearted]

63. Like "typical white person" isn't too far? He bought this ticket, now he's got to take the ride.

And P.S. It's PAT BUCHANON. What on earth did you expect out of him any way?

[rocktivity]

68. Did Pat mention that Bill and Hillary

"kicked it" with Wright ten years ago?

:headbang:
rocknation