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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:30 PM
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Clinton Campaign Actually 2 Million In Debt RIGHT NOW!!
The HRC's COH of $33,174,862.16 sounds like quite a wad!

Here's the problem with that number.

1) $8,733,609.11 in outstanding debt. This rbings the total down to $24,441,253.05. That's still a wad of money! But wait, there's more...

2) There's another number to take into account. That's her nearly. $22 million that can only be used in the General Election. Giving her the benefit of the doubt, that leaves less than $3 million for her to spend in the primaries. But wait, there's more...

3) You cannot leave out the $5 million loan she gave herself.

Bottom line, Hillary Clinton's campaign ended February more than $2,000,000 in the red.

By contrast, Obama ended February with more than $38.8 million cash on hand. About $8 million is GE only and about $625,000 in debt leaves Obama with just over $30,000,000 to spend on the primaries.

And it doesn't end there. Obama has received more than 925,000 donations to date in MArch. If we lower expectations on the average donation size from the February average of ~$75 down to $50, that's more than $2,000,000 per day. If he's maintaining a burn rate of $1.5 million per day, he's going to end March with more than $50 million on hand.

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:31 PM
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1. And, she used $10 million of her Senate Campaign money.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:32 PM
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2. Hm, guess she'd better get her checkbook out ... AGAIN
I can't wait to see those tax returns.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:33 PM
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3. You know how much it costs to keep a queen happy?!
:hide:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:34 PM
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4. No wonder elton john's gonna do
a fundraiser for hilary.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:38 PM
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5. Not true
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:41 PM
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6. what does that link have to do with this OP's premise?
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:03 AM
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30. excuse that poster...
she is in huckabee land. She also believes that Obama doesn't have a lead. Poor thing.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:48 AM
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28. Maybe its just late and I am too tired,
but I fail to see what that link has to do with the OP, particularly in regards to its truth or falseness?

Please spell it out a little better for those who are sleepy and slower to connect data points
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:42 PM
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7. do we really need someone financially incompetent as President?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:47 PM
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8. Damn, if thats how she runs her campaign, imagine what she would do with the country.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:01 PM
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9. If we want to fiscally blow up the country, she's our girl!
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:03 PM
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11. My thoughts exactly.
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:02 PM
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10. so did she take back her 5 million loan?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:18 AM
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12. Is that what it will take? Do we need to pay the Clintons 2 mil to get them to go away?
Is that the only reason why her Quixotic mission is continuing?
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:31 AM
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13. I heard an interesting bit of info on this board
Someone mentioned that it cost the campaigns about $2 to process a donation. If all of the Obama supporters donated $.01, she'd be broke in no time. Don't know if this would actually work or not, but it's an interesting thought.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:33 AM
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14. $.01 ok but not a penny more
:rofl:
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:58 AM
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22. come on, isn't it worth your two cents?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:36 AM
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24. Ok. $.02 but not a penny more. And cash only, definitely not by credit card
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 01:38 AM by Catherina
Not after what happened to Kathy Callahan when Clinton fraudulently ran up unauthorized charges on her credit card. You can see the charges she had to fight to get refunded if you search on Kathy Callahan. She's supporting Barack Obama now.


The HRC campaign had to refund over $2.5 million to donors who didn't authorize charges on their cards.


So it has to be cash you understand. $.02 and not a penny more!


PS Clinton supporters, check your credit card statements carefully if you don't have money to throw around.




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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:08 PM
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32. but, remember, the price of copper is up, so it will be worth a little more when they cash it in...
think again....
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 02:38 PM
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33. Good reminder. $.01 then and not a penny more!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:58 AM
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26. Come on. I think we can win on our own merits, not stooping to something like this.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:34 AM
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15. Terrible management.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:35 AM
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16. Ready on Day One ... To Botch Things Up
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:37 AM
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17. Excellent Post.... nothing inside
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:38 AM
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18. She's Ready On Day One To Mismanage Superbly!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:40 AM
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19. I thought she has 3 million and Obama has 30 million.
Thought I saw that at the Huffington post or somewhere.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:57 AM
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20. If each of us 2 million Obama donors gives Hillary a dollar, she can be debt free....
....and quit the race.

I say we all send her a dollar, but write on it "QUIT!" in indelible ink.


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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:58 AM
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21. More Obama math..
:rofl:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:17 AM
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23. Be nice. She's trying hard to catch up
I just found this on Ben Smith's blog at politico. There's a similar fundraiser the day before with a minimum of $500 for a glance at Her Highness. $2300 to get within curtsying distance. Talk about money going down a rathole!

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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:08 PM
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34. They should hold it on April 1st
:think:
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:41 AM
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25. That's a looooong way to hike
carrying a jerry-can all the way to Pennsylvania after running out of gas weeks out...
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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 02:35 AM
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27. GE Money how does that work out?
Anyone knows how that works out? Do you have to pay a compulsory contribution to the general election from the campaign money raised?
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:30 AM
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29. Did her staffers get back-pay?
...I mean, for all of those staffers who worked for weeks without pay when her money problems first became public.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:11 AM
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31. She OBVIOUSLY wont make it to the GE and so does that mean no Debt?
since she will then have access to the off-limits GE fund she raised (to pay her debts off)..and incidentally, profit from it (big pay day for her and bill from ma-and-pa six-pack
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:28 PM
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35. Question...she owes ***half a MILLION** combined to TWO health care insurance companies
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 03:29 PM by rainbow4321
Does this fall under any kind of funneling money/donations??? Like she can claim she doesn't take money from the health insurance bigwigs yet they are letting her/her people get health insurance without actually paying for it?? What are they expecting in return from her in the future?

She owes Aetna over $200,000 and Blue Cross/Blue Shield $300,000.

Look at her debt list JUST from February:


http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M2/C00431569/D_DEBTS_C00431569.html




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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 04:00 PM
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36. Build-A-Bear Workshop, Inc. Corporate Sales = 525.00 ??????????
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 04:12 PM by rainbow4321
How nice..I'm sure her DONORS will love this. She is spending her money on build-a-bears.


http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M3/C00431569/D_DEBTS_C00431569.html



And what is up with Women's Basketball Hall of Fame being owed 1,248.90?

WTF is she thinking???
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 04:36 PM
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37. Obama as president quite clearly says money will flow to America as I feel his chrisman is
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 04:43 PM by cooolandrew
very magnetic. Barack " barack mean one who is blessed by god."
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