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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:46 PM
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Enough about why we think either Barack or HIllary is unelectable. Is John McCain electable?
Let's start promoting his negatives instead of eating our own.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:48 PM
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1. Based on the recent
turmoil in this party and the recent polls, I have to say yes.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:49 PM
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2. This is his biggest negative.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:55 PM
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7. Yes and no
We can pull the rug out from under him if we do it JUST RIGHT.

The conservatives think he's too liberal by far, but the moderates wouldn't vote for 4 more years of the shrub.

On FR they're all OUTRAGED over McCain's proposal to institute carbon trading. OUTRAGED I tell ya. :crazy:
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:07 PM
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11. LOLOLS....This is going to be fun, McCain is going to get dismanteld
and exposed for things he Voted for, Allies he has, and things he looked the other way at.

He is a Republican, after all. There has been an ugly trail of votes that got our economy and Iraq where it is.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:50 PM
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3. Yes he is, so we gotta hit hard!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:51 PM
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4. Reading FReepers
they're not even pretending to like that fool.

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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:51 PM
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5. He should be toast in the general election
McCain is coasting. He has no solid plan for America and he wears his commitment to the Iraq debacle like an albatross around his neck. Also, he is bound to have a lot more "senior moments" like the one recently when Lieberman had to whisper information about Iran into McCain's ear.

Once we have a nominee and McCain starts getting scrutiny, there will be open talk about replacing him on the ticket. He may have to develop "unfortunate" health problems in order to bow out gracefully and let Mitt take over. But then, Mitt would lose.
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:53 PM
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6. The corporate media absolutely adores John McCain
That is why he is, unfortunately, very "electable."
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:56 PM
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8. Not if you link him to Chimpy.
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KalicoKitty Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:58 PM
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9. He is electable by those who want another warmonger!
A vote for McCain is a vote for Bush! We are in for the rest of the ride to hell in a hand basket if McCain gets elected.

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:05 PM
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10. Bill Clinton thinks he is just great!
"She and John McCain are very close," Clinton said. "They always laugh that if they wound up being the nominees of their party, it would be the most civilized election in American history, and they're afraid they'd put the voters to sleep because they like and respect each other."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/25/bill-clinton-john-mccain-and-hillary-are-very-close/


From McCain's own website showing Bill's endorsement



Now, I suppose it's possible that someone else is buying Web ads in order to promote Bill Clinton's kind words for McCain. But there's no getting around the fact that it's McCain's own campaign Web site that's using a big ole video of Bill Clinton, complimenting John McCain, as a way of drumming up votes for old John. And I've got to imagine that McCain isn't using Bill Clinton's praise to attract conservative votes - they hate Bill Clinton. He's doing it to win independents.
Here is perhaps the most devastating gift she gave to the Republicans as she patronizingly dismissed Obama:

"I think that since we now know Sen. McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election. We all know that. And I think it’s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold,” the New York senator told reporters crowded into an infant’s bedroom-sized hotel conference room in Washington.

“I believe that I’ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you’ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy,” she said.

Calling McCain, the presumptive GOP nominee a good friend and a “distinguished man with a great history of service to our country,” Clinton said, “Both of us will be on that stage having crossed that threshold.”
Clinton couldn't stop herself from praising McCain: The pro-McCain comments were quickly and widely panned — so Clinton repeated them.

James Fallows reported on Wednesday, "In a live CNN interview just now, Sen. Clinton repeated, twice, the 'Sen. McCain has a lifetime of experience, I have a lifetime of experience, Sen. Obama has one speech in 2002' line. By what logic, exactly, does a member of the Democratic party include the 'Sen. McCain has a lifetime of experience' part of that sentence?"
Former Senator Gary Hart was one of the many long-term party activists who was appalled by Clinton's pumping up of John McCain while patronizingly dismissing Barack Obama. He decried her comments:

By saying that only she and John McCain are qualified to lead the country, particularly in times of crisis, Hillary Clinton has broken that rule, severely damaged the Democratic candidate who may well be the party's nominee, and, perhaps most ominously, revealed the unlimited lengths to which she will go to achieve power. She has essentially said that the Democratic party deserves to lose unless it nominates her.

Former presidential candidate and Senator Bill Bradley was quoted in a London newspaper:

Bradley believes that Clinton will stop at nothing to tear down Obama even if it boosts John McCain, who was confirmed last week as the Republican nominee: "The Clintons do not do long-term planning. They’re total tacticians and right now their focus is on Obama, not McCain."
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ultrabrown Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:08 PM
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12. A candidate is as electable as the media wants him to be
No matter how perfect a candidate is, if he/she is loathed by the media in general, that person is toast.

If on the other hand, a war-dodging, dumb candidate such as George W. Bush would be unelectable in a fair world.
But in the world we live in, the media is controled by pro-Republican corporations; talk radio is 90% conservative. TV is dominated by right-wing talk shows. Etc.
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