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mw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:46 PM
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Hillary "Huckabee" Clinton: needs miracles, not math
What was it about Huckabee, what is it about Hillary, that cause them hang onto their candidacy when the math isn't there?

I was a hardcore Hillary fan. I remain a fan. However, over is over. Hillary: it's over. Step aside. We don't need a Democratic Huckabee, waiting for a miracle to trump math.

Talk about the "skies parting", like Hillary jabbed Obama with a few weeks ago. Hillary is waiting for the skies to part and the Hand of God to award her the nomination.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:49 PM
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1. Why do so many Democrats fear our Democratic system?
Let the process play out. No one has won yet.
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Splinter Cell Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:50 PM
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2. But.....Hillary has lost
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:51 PM
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3. But...
she can't win and STILL respect the will of the people.

She needs a miracle called the 'super delegates'

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:52 PM
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4. She knew it a month ago - trying to force Obama hoping there would be a fatal misstep
was just craven behavior on her part.
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mw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:58 PM
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5. The system has spoken. Obama has won.
What more could Obama POSSIBLY win?

Obama's won more states.
Obama's won more votes.
Obama's won more delegates.

Are you seriously saying that it would be FAIR and LIKELY--albeit, it's "legal", I'll admit--that the supers pick Hillary?

I can say with 100% certainty: if the tables were turned, and Obama was in Hillary's place and versa-visa, I would be calling on Obama to step aside.

As it is: Hillary needs to step aside. It's over.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:01 PM
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6. I believe the DNC defines winning as reaching the required number of delegates, thanks.
That hasn't happend yet, and won't happen with peldged delegates.

The supers will decide.

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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:03 PM
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7. Do you feel the supers should go against the will of the people ?
Lets be honest now. It would be a choice to destroy the party as much as it would be for the nominee.

Nobody is going to decide to destroy the party in such a way.
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mw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:06 PM
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10. No they shouldn't, and they won't.
If they do, say hello to President McCain. Because Democrats will be rightfully pissed.

And I would say the same thing if Hillary led in votes, states, and delegates, and the supers reversed her win and awarded it to Obama.

It's ironic that Hillary's only hope is to "win dirty" like Bush did in 2000.
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mw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:04 PM
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8. And back to my question:
Do you really believe that it's JUST and LIKELY that the supers will overturn Obama's lead in the delegates, votes, and states?

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mw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:20 PM
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15. Just like the SCOTUS defines winning as "Bush wins", thanks
Bush's "win" was legally legitimate. It followed the letter of the law. Yet Bush was rightfully called illegitimate.

The same will happen to Huckabee Clinton--oops, there I go again, I mean "Hillary"--if she effectively steals the nomination from Obama. Even though it, technically, follows the rules.

There will be one difference between Bush and Hillary, though. Bush became President. Hillary will not if she steals the Dem nomination.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:08 PM
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12. Hillary to English translator
"Let the process play out"

Translation:
"I've got until August 25th...
...to throw the kitchen sink at Obama and tarnish him as much as possible;
...to strongarm the Democratic Party into counting MI and FL as is;
...to get all my powerful friends to target and strongarm as many superdelegates as possible;
...to, despite my earlier pledge, lobby regular primary/caucus delegates to compromise their integrity and vote for me."

She has ZERO respect for the "process" and is tries to undermine it whenever it is to her advantage. Yet calls for the "process" to play out.
:puke:

Apparently by "process" she means her underhanded plan to steal this election that has mathematically been already won.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:24 PM
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16. What a brilliant question.
I hope you post this sentiment everywhere.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:06 PM
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9. The longer Clinton stays in worse the chances for Dems in Nov.
It is almost impossible for her to win.. And the longer this goes on the more the Dem party breaks down hurting fealing and thus effecting voter turn out in Nov.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:07 PM
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11. Obama = Won more popular vote, won more delegates, won more contests. Winner.
Clinton = lost the popular vote, lost the delegates, lost the contests. Loser. Time to exit stage right.
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mw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:09 PM
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13. And again: I agree, and would say the same about Obama
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 07:15 PM by mw
If Obama were in Hillary's shoes, I would be declaring Hillary the winner, and would be wanting Obama to exit.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:10 PM
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14. Huck didn't bash the crap out of McLame.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:25 PM
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17. thank you for speaking up
It's time to fight McCain!
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mw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:31 AM
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18. You're welcome. nt
nt
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