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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:11 PM
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If Hillary gives a damn about healthcare she might consider paying
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 08:17 PM by cali
her bills for her campaign employees' health insurance. She's not. And what happens when you don't pay those bills? The policy gets cancelled. Hillary pays millions to sleaze bag consultants, has a $49,000 outstanding bill at the posh Beverly Wilshire and yet doesn't pay insurance premiums for her employees.

Aetna Healthcare....................213,085.25
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M2/C00431569/D_DEBTS_C00431569.html
And she owes BC/BS a hefty amount too.

Fancy hotels and sleazebags like Mark Penn are clearly more important to her than the well being of her employees.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:13 PM
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1. Don't forget the $25,000 for the Bellagio in Vegas!
I swear to god I would never give that campaign a thin dime after seeing what they waste money on.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:14 PM
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2. I can't imagine why they'd do this
It's just stupid.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:23 PM
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9. I'm sure if you check out your candidate you will find the same
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 09:28 PM by bellasgrams
thing. BO and Michelle are used to living the good life. I'm sure they're not staying at the Days Inn. Plus they can always hit up Oprah if they run short.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:35 PM
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11. You realize the BO campaign has only $625,000 in debt
compared to Clinton's $8 million?

And that Clinton's debts go back to Iowa - whereas Obama's seem to go back approx. 30 days?

And Oprah can't give them any more money than any other contributor ($4,600 max). So why even write that?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:39 PM
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13. What a complete smack down!
Pretty awesome.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:43 PM
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15. Just looking at BO's disbursments
I keep seeing Best Western.....not quite the Beverly Hilton :crazy:

Take a look: http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M3/C00431445.html
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:57 PM
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16. Go look at the "2007 year end" totals for debt for both of them
Obama's doesn't seem to even hit 900,000 or 1 million.

HRC, on the other hand...these are JUST the big ticket debt items on her long IOU list:

Electrum Productions, LLC 217,602.10
Grunwald Communications 301,166.44
MSHC Partners, Inc. 624,153.42
Penn, Schoen & Berland Assoc. 1,494,507.31
Aetna Healthcare 213,085.25
Air Charter Team, Inc. 310,462.14
Next Big Thing 116,794.75
O'Brien McConnell & Pearson 166,586.23
------------------------------------------------

HRC:
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2007/YE/C00431569/D_DEBTS_C00431569.html


Obama:
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2007/YE/C00431445/D_DEBTS_C00431445.html



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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:00 PM
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17. Oh, I know
and you'll notice that Obama's staff all get paid on time. Unlike the Clinton campaign staff.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:33 PM
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3. Living high on the hog on her donors' money
Probably a big part of why she hasn't dropped out. She's funneling money from her donors to buddies like Penn, and staying at the Bellagio, having catered dinners, etc. Meanwhile she doesn't pay her health insurance bills.

If I had given her any money, I would be PISSED.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:38 PM
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4. Putting this on the greatest, for the people she cares so little about.
Healthcare for god's sake! That's nearly all she has left to stand on.
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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:18 PM
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7. Additionally she owes
CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield 299,455.02


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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:09 PM
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5. I thought we hated these health insurance companies?
Oh, god, now I am so confused.

But seriously, this report does not say whether these are delinquent or not. How many employees does she have? This could represent a quarterly payment. Anyone who is an employer and has the goodness to cover their employees knows how expensive these policies are.

The fact that she has insurance for them at all is a positive thing. She is not required to do so. Does Obama have health insurance for his employees?


So until we have more information on this, I would consider it a distortion.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:42 PM
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14. Yes, all Democratic presidential campaigns carried health insurance
coverage for their employees.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:10 PM
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6. so much for being all about health care. There should be ads run about this.
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LVjinx Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:52 PM
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18. You guys really DO want to lose in November, don't you?
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:23 PM
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8. K&R, but she pays some "consultant class" person 6 million?!?!!
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:28 PM
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10. She still has quite a bit of Iowa and New Hampshire debt
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 09:28 PM by Debi
All Iowa Agricultural Assoc. 990.00
Alliant Energy 1,455.71
Alliant Energy Acct 10 1,103.32
Alliant Energy Acct 17 651.86
Alliant Energy Acct 18 1,838.10
Alliant Energy Acct 3 381.51
Big Ten Rentals, Inc. 1,815.86
Carter Printing 3,149.26
Des Moines Area Community Coll Business Office 290.00
Des Moines Art Center Restaur. 1,000.00
Gallagher Bluedorn 1,505.00
Hy-Vee # 1504 559.94
Hy-Vee #1 959.39
Hy-Vee #1101 997.12
Hy-Vee #1109 1,189.23
Hy-Vee #1192 556.22
Hy-Vee #1759 1,350.47
Hy-Vee #1866 1,330.95
Hy-Vee #1895 1,314.00
Hy-Vee Food Store 4,101.32
Hy-Vee, Inc. 2,597.60
Independence Light and Power 1,043.11
National Cattle Congress 2,964.00
North Scott Community School District 630.00
Sioux City Art Center Board of Trustees 3,450.00
Southern New Hampshire Univ. Athletic Department 9,542.80
Southern New Hampshire Univ. Dining Services 922.04
University of New Hampshire Attn: Carol Tuttle 2,281.31
Voter Activation Network 2,650.75

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

And WTF???

Action Figure No. 1, Inc. 15,438.00
Build-A-Bear Workshop, Inc. Corporate Sales 525.00




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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:37 PM
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12. K & R
:thumbsup:
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