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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:28 PM
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Dowd: Carter, Gore and Pelosi will have the knives out for Hillary
Haunting Obama’s Dreams

It is a tribute to Hillary Clinton that even though, rationally, political soothsayers think she can no longer win, irrationally, they wonder how she will pull it off.

It’s impossible to imagine The Terminator, as a former aide calls her, giving up. Unless every circuit is out, she’ll regenerate enough to claw her way out of the grave, crawl through the Rezko Memorial Lawn and up Obama’s wall, hurl her torso into the house and brutally haunt his dreams.

“It’s like one of those movies where you think you know the end, but then you watch with your fingers over your eyes,” said one leading Democrat.

...After the Hillary camp lost — and trashed — Bill Richardson and was outmaneuvered by the Obama forces on mulligans in Michigan and Florida, Hillary’s hopes dwindled down to the superdelegates.

If Jimmy Carter, Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi are the dealmakers, it won’t take Hercule Poirot to figure out who had knives out for Hillary in this “Murder on the Orient Express.”

Carter, who felt he was not treated with a lot of respect by the Clintons when they were in the White House, favors Obama.

...Al Gore blames Bill Clinton’s trysts with Monica for losing him the White House. He resented sharing the vice presidency with Hillary and sharing the donors and attention with her when she ran for Senate as he ran for president.

...Like Carter and Gore, Nancy Pelosi was appalled by Bill’s escapades with Monica. And, as The Times’s Carl Hulse wrote, the Speaker has been viewed as “putting her thumb on the scale for Mr. Obama” in recent weeks. As a leading China basher, the San Francisco pol tangled bitterly with President Clinton over his pursuit of a free-trade agreement with China, once charging him with papering over China’s horrible record on human rights. And she has been put off by the abrasive ways of some top Hillary people...


Read the full column at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/opinion/23dowd.html?ref=opinion
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:30 PM
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1. I Am The Only Person On DU Who Likes MoDo
That is all.
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:32 PM
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2. I like her to
she is witty and sexy, dont normally like redheads but what the hell. If anne coulter could write, had any brains, was more thoughtful she would be MoDO
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:35 PM
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4. I got her book at the dollar store and found it to be a snore...
but she is ok.
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enfield collector Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:05 PM
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21. ann coulter would need to be a woman as well.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:33 PM
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3. like some others, she has multiple personalities.
very inconsistent
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:38 PM
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5. Nope, I love her.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:38 PM
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6. No you're not. I like her.
As entertainment.

I would be highly skeptical of letting her view influence my own, however. In general, however, I tend to agree with her.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:50 PM
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10. No you're not
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:54 PM
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16. Nah, I've always like her, too.
She's like that smart-alec, sexy girl in high school that would hang out with us non-football players, smoking cigarettes and cracking jokes about the head cheerleader and quarterback just to piss them off.
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:58 PM
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18. I like her too!!! Her scathing, acerbic wit is lost on some people.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:12 PM
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25. I like her - sometimes she just nails it - and this is one of them
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:39 PM
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7. I'll take any support I can get, but come ON.
We are talking about Maureen Dowd, queen of the high-school Heathers? This is 'journalism' more worthy of 'Entertainment Tonight' than the New York Times.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:41 PM
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8. I have always liked her. She rags on Bush all the time. nt
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:02 PM
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19. She also ragged on Al Gore and Clinton all of the time and I ...
used to just be so pissed at her columns; I felt she really let W off on so many criminal things during the campaign and throughout his first four years of his presidency. She has, in his last four years, been a pistol on Bush, but not as much as she should have been! I could easily do without her!

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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:42 PM
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9. Treating people decently is a good thing--even in politics
One of the reasons Bill Richardson gave for endorsing Barack Obama was because Obama helped him out in a debate when he could have--maybe by most political standards should have--left him standing there like an inattentive fool.

The Clintons have quite a few important people they've wronged over the years--and some of these are going to be the very persons who are going to get to decide whether she still has a shot at getting the nomination or is going to be politely but firmly given the hook. Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Nancy Pelosi. And then there's that doctor from Vermont. Ouch!

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:53 PM
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14. The old adage comes to mind about treating people right on your way up,
because they'll be the same people you see on your way down.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:04 PM
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20. A darned good adage and a darned astute poster who cites it.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :hi:
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:10 PM
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23. That is most definately true. nt
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:44 AM
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28. good one!
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:50 PM
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11. I Like Maureen Dowd, But I Think Sometimes She Needs To Be Spanked...
I would volunteer.


:evilgrin:
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:51 PM
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12. Yup. Al Gore, Pelosi and I guess now Jimmy Carter all like Obama.
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 09:51 PM by loveangelc
All the most senior superdelegates who can shape the outcome like Obama.

They should endorse so we can end this.

I suspect they will after NC...or at least try and get superdelegates to endorse obama.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:53 PM
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13. Why is Modo speaking for Gore and Carter?
And who gives a shit what Pelosi thinks, I like MoDo but she should just speak for herself.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:54 PM
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15. She needs more than knives. A small nuke maybe?
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PylesMalfunction Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:55 PM
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17. I support Obama...
But Maureen Dowd is a horrible shill. :eyes: She's like the National Enquirer version of a pundit. She's never liked the Clintons so her bias is well established. With so many wonderful, more objective sources that state why Obama is the best choice, I'd rather not rely on someone who's writing is about as good as a cheeto is nutritious. :D
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:08 PM
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22. I wish they would use them SOON!!
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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:11 PM
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24. I've always hated MoDo.
She had it out for Teresa Heinz b/c Teresa's plastic
surgeons are so much better than MoDo's.

But this column towards the end was lovely.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:14 PM
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26. MoDo's clever with words. If only she would use her powers for good and not evil.
Some people consider the Clintons to be the “stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics.”

:rofl:
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:43 PM
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27. The Cliintons will always be there when they need you
You could split diamonds with this stuff.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:47 AM
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29. I think a lot of people in our party are tired of the Clintons acting as if the party belongs to
them and them alone.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:18 PM
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30. K&R, Carter, Gore and/or Pelosi need to step up and speak out for the sake of the Party n/t
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