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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 11:57 AM
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Rendell admits it's now impossible for Hillary to win popular vote and pledged delegates
WALLACE: Governor Rendell, let me follow up on this question of the race. For all the talk about Reverend wright and all the talk about Bill Richardson's endorsement, a lot of people think the really big news this week is the fact that Michigan is now following Florida in deciding not to hold a revote. Given all of that, isn't it impossible now for Clinton to beat Obama in the popular vote and the pledged delegates when all the voting is done in early June?


RENDELL: Well, sure. and again, it shows --

WALLACE: Sure, you're saying it's impossible.

RENDELL: It's very difficult, but it shows an inconsistency in the Obama campaign. First, they say the superdelegates should reflect the will of the people of their states. Well, we have Senator Kennedy and Senator Kerry saying they're going to vote for Obama even though Senator Clinton won by 13 points in Massachusetts.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:01 PM
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1. That would be a tough call for any SD if they weren't supporting
the candidate their state favored. I understand thems the rules, but I don't envy them their task. They'll hear about it regardless of which way they pledge.
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:27 PM
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8. I'll give up Kennedy and Kerry in exchange for Cantwell and Murray
It's kinda funny how everyone mentions Kerry and Kennedy as examples of SD's that should go with their state's winner, but somehow Maria Cantwell and Patty Murray somehow escape that. Obama beat Hillary in every single county of Washington State.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:25 PM
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18. Good points. Gregoire went with Obama, didn't she? nt
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:03 PM
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2. kick
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:08 PM
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3. again another Clinton surrogate
brings up Massachusetts but fails to mention Washington State where Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell BOTH are Clinton SD's in a state that she got clobbered
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:10 PM
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4. Bullshit, Fast Eddie.
The Obama camp position is that supers should support the overall pledged delegate leader.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:18 PM
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25. I hope they had someone to counter
fast eddie rendell..an Obama representative?
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:58 PM
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27. Indeed, a quite capable one in Bill Richardson. n/t
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:22 PM
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5. Fast Eddie stumbling all over himself....
:eyes:

Why then did they get their panties all in a twist when Rep. John Lewis switched his vote to Obama after his district and state went for Obama? And knowing that the city of Philadelphia is DEFINITELY going to throw it to Obama, no one is complaining about Mayor Mixmaster Mike not switching. However, he may find himself a 1-term mayor and that is the risk.

I am sick of the Clinton campaign and their minions grasping at straws. If the math had been reversed, Fast Eddie would have been calling for Obama's head.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:33 PM
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9. Even if Nutter supports Clinton
I doubt that he'll be a one term mayor.

John Street did far worse and he got two terms without even trying.


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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:14 PM
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24. Mixmaster Mike was elected with the lowest % of voters on record.
Nutjob is DLC.

I do not support DLC and I sure as hell didn't vote for him here. And Philadelphia is not going for Clinton.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:39 PM
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31. Too right Philly isn't going for HRC
But I still don't think that Nutter, despite his support for Clinton, will only be one term.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:01 PM
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6. Lets see his reaction when Obama wipes the map with her here in PA
He has said that he will switch his support. Lets see if he puts his actions where his (rather large and unstoppable) mouth is.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:49 PM
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10. I'm sorry
I love O, support him, and admire him, but I live in PA and if he wins it here, I will dance next to I-95 with nothing on but a pair of socks if he wins PA.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:59 PM
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11. I would be elated to join you
:rofl:
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:26 PM
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19. will you put that photo up on Ebay?
:rofl:
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:09 PM
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23. the only bids I'd get
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 07:09 PM by Teaser
would be for me to destroy the picture.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:02 PM
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7. Uh-oh.. She's gonna go all "Zell Miller" on Barack?
She's almost there now !!
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:01 PM
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13. Barack Obama already won the Zell Miller Award when he lavished Ronald Reagan with praise. {EOM}
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 02:04 PM by The Night Owl
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:08 PM
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16. He challenged Ronald Reagan to a duel? I must-a-missed-it
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 02:08 PM by SoCalDem
I do remember him saying that Reagan was a transformational president.. which was TRUE.. Not all transformations are good ones :evilgrin:
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:19 PM
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17. Bullshit. Barack Obama's comment about Ronald Reagan changing the trajectory of America...
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 02:27 PM by The Night Owl
Bullshit. Barack Obama's comment about Ronald Reagan changing the trajectory of America was clearly an attempt to praise him and you know it. Obama claimed that Reagan tapped into what the American people wanted... clarity, optimism, dynamism, and entrepreneurship... you know... things which Obama thinks were missing during the Clinton years...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaoYD7iZG9w&eurl=http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:vJTG7P-xcLcJ:www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Transformation_like_Reagan.html

Moreover, the fact that Obama would, after nearly 8 years of the Bush presidency, equate the Clinton administration to the Nixon administration really takes the cake.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:29 PM
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20. At least he didn't endorse McCain over Hillary.
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:23 PM
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26. Former Senator Edwards picked on the gist of your post, as well:
Edwards: "I will never use Reagan as an example for change"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NF237S5i2I
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 09:18 PM
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30. I see you get your lying tp from hilary and
spread the shit on DU.
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:00 PM
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12. Rendell needs to forget Hillary and start thinking about patching potholes in PA
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 08:28 PM
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28. No to mention our bridges crumbling under us
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:03 PM
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14. There is no such thing as a "popular vote" in a Primary that includes caucuses
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:04 PM
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15. I think this "supporting the will of the people" stuff is nonsense
Why should Hillary get all the superdelegates from California (and there are a wad of them) when Obama got a million plus votes here? Or New York?

This almost makes her big, blue state strategy worthwhile, when in reality it's crap.

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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:33 PM
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21. Rendell's a hypocrite
He chastises Kennedy, Kerry and Richardson for doing the same exact thing he's doing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5222414
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 03:20 PM
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22. Just tell the SDs that they can't let that black fella run, he's unelectable!
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 08:30 PM
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29. Ed already did that. About a month ago.
Said we here in PA are the most ignerant of the entire universe and would never elect a black man. Proved it too when challenged on it because a nice "well spoken" black man lost the Goberner's election to him in '06 (Lynn Swann).
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:58 PM
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32. Since Obama scuttled the revotes in Fl and MI by objecting to every proposal
those votes count in HRC's favor.

Obama doesn't care if he destroys the party in his sick quest for power. He doesn't care about anyone but himself. He is a genuinely bad man.

Steve
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