What Latinos are saying about Bill Richardson: A traitor to them

[pathansen]

Latino bloggs:

“65% Latinos support Hillary, and got the most votes in New Mexico. In the Latino community we had a high regard for Richardson, as Now we consider him as a TRAIDOR. Better known as EL TRAIDOR.”

“What kind of "judgment" is Gov. Richardson displaying? New Mexico is backing Hillary! He is a traitor to his state - a traitor to the Clintons who boosted his career with cabinet posts. It is back-stabbing, to say the least. And, I don't think it will help Obama. Richardson has a loooooong history of sexual harrassment as Governor. All those stories are about to spill out. Obama = lousy "judgment."

“Bill Richarson in thinking like the politician he is, although mediocre, politician anyway. However, when 2/3 of the latino community vote for Hillary, you have to wonder who does he represent? The truth is that Richarson was made by President Clinton, all you can say is :WHAT AN UNGRATEFUL FAT SLOB. We latinos have deep divided issues with blacks and they will not go away because Big Mac Richarson.”
“Bill Clinton appointed this man twice to his cabinet. Making him the first Latino to hold the position. He campaignrd for him when he ran for Governor. What kind of person would turn his back on someone he owes so much. I question his integrity, or lack there of. I wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher.”

“The latinos and the state of New Mexico, now consider Richardson a traitor, he turned his back on his state and the latino community... he sold them out ,in hopes of being Vice president... shameful...america does not need a traitor in the whitehouse “

Links:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/abc-news-pollin.html

[leftofcool]

1. I was expecting this to come out

I also heard this same thing from the Latino couple downstairs from us and the ones across the hall.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

5. Every latino I've run into has mentioned it.

It's the buzz.

[mchussein]

54. why are latinos so racist?

this is an outrage!

[Lerkfish]

62. the clintons wish you to believe that they are.

which is odd, considering they want the latino vote.

so, essentially, they're calling latino racists and still wanting their support.

how condescending and insulting is that?

[Name removed]

68. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[joshcryer]

80. heh

[EFerrari]

105. What a strange thing to ask.

[VeraAgnes]

2. The tone is a bit passionate and dramatic.

That said, I do believe that the concept is correct.

[okasha]

3. Short version:

Ese pendejo!

[NYCGirl]

4. Your link leads to a story that says "Clinton Pollster's Memo: 'Full of Overblown Claims'

:spray:

[silverweb]

51. Yeah, I got that, too.

I did a word search for "traidor" and it came up nada.

This reminds me of RW emails that give "documentation" in the form of a link to some massive site or pdf that it is impossible to verify anything with.

Makes me wonder about the the premise of the OP just a tad....

[UALRBSofL]

6. OP I posted yesterday this would happen to him

seeing Hillary won NM, Mass and she didn't get the SD of Richardson, Kennedy or Kerry that this is political suicide. Of course Cali and Sniffa disregarded it as more Clinton rhetoric. This is just another reason Hillary is winning the nomination. Thanks for posting.

[rodeodance]

12. think i saw that one. The O fans are sticking their heads in sand. Ok with me.

[FARAFIELD]

20. Im from california

and the days before the Caroline Kennedy Endorsement Hillary was up 20, and it ended up being 8.8%. Which meant a big swing in delegates, there was no way to match her strength there, but he go the delegate count close, and thats what matters. Besides McCain couldnt wont win California under any circumstance it doesnt have to be hillary there.

[Hippo_Tron]

129. Clinton got O'Malley, Mikulski, and Inouye but MD and HI went for Obama

Is it political suicide for them?

[rodeodance]

7. REC

[VolcanoJen]

8. So, Latinos hate Bill Richardson.

Got it!

:eyes:

[GarbagemanLB]

13. oh my god I love your picture. haha!

[VolcanoJen]

19. Was wondering if anyone would "get" it.

;-)

:hug: GarbagemanLB! :hug:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

31. ROFLMAO! nt

[IsItJustMe]

69. Not at all. Just this poster's perception of reality. And because they had a brain fart,

appearently, that makes it real.

[pathansen]

120. No, It must be that he hates them for only giving him 1% of vote in the primaries

This was true even in his own state.
He must know that he won't get re-elected.

[Middle finga]

9. WTF

[Coexist]

10. that link doesn't lead to those comments???

[Coexist]

11. that link doesn't lead to those comments???

[leftofcool]

15. Actually, it did, I just read it

Now it is gone but I googled it and found the same post on several other reports. Google "Bill Richardson and traitor

[VolcanoJen]

29. Get that, everyone? Just Google "Bill Richardson" and "Traitor."

:eyes:

[Lerkfish]

63. LOL! hey, let's google "Clinton" and "Racist"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=clinton+racist&btnG=Google+Search


:shrug:

[Kurovski]

88. No, no, no, Google "Nixon+underpants".

:rofl:

[hisownpetard]

102. OK, so I googled Nixon+underpants+boxers+briefs and it came back "None."

Does that mean he went commando?

Ewwww.

[Kurovski]

106. Oh dear.

I've never thought of Nixon's wiggling genitalia before.

I-I-I don't...know what to...think.

[hisownpetard]

117. My research did tell me, though, that even his jock strap was starched.

[EFerrari]

110. Try Nixon + thong?

:)

[hisownpetard]

115. I. Just. Can't.

[rodeodance]

14. k

[UALRBSofL]

22. Here is a comment and it really touches on how many Latinos feel

White men views do not represent American views.

I don't believe that Sen. Clinton's ability to win has been overblown by the media. The true is that the anti-Clinton media has not been fair and mostly reports pro-Obama propaganda.

The news media continues to report that all American men understands the Senator from Illinois and feel compassion for his hard life. As one that started working in a copper mine and as a young man saw a second coworker die in the workplace, this event led to my decision to join the U.S. Air Force. As one that worked through the ranks as an enlisted airman and retire as a Lt Col, I know what it takes to get ahead through hard work and getting an education. As an Hispanic American that was never given special treatment but saw Black coworkers given higher promotion rates although they were less qualified, I understand how White Americans feel about affirmative action programs. I too was a victim and had to work twice as hard to get promotion that were so easly given to Black or White employees. I also saw many White Americans work equaly as hard as I did because they came from an unpreviledged backgrounds. But through it all we all united for America and freedom.

Now the extremely well financed Senator from Illinois is getting over 50% of all his donations from unknown contributors of $1,000 (CNN) and not the small contributors with $25-50 donations as he Senator stated. This politician so easily says one lie after another. In my world, someone that does not tell the truth is called a “liar”. In my world, if I lie in my workplace I would lose my employment. Once again it shows this Senator is unable to unite America. The Senator from Illinois is inexperience, unknowledgable and imature for those of us that work from pay-check to pay-check. For those that live from pay-check to pay-check, the Senator from Illinois choses to forget what the average American has to live through to get from one day to another. The Senator from Illinois tells so many lies that one does not know what to believe. This shows why he is not ready to be president. I would think it would be fun to sit with Sen. Clinton over a beer or glass of wine than with Sen. Obama.




Posted by: Dr. Rene, USAF Retired, Recently | Mar 23, 2008 3:42:50 PM

[theredpen]

126. Total, complete, utter bullshit

"donations from unknown contributors of $1,000 "

Contributors of all amounts must be declared. Obama is not getting any anonymous contributions. If he is, then he's breaking the law and someone would probably have pointed that out by now, doncha think?

[gateley]

16. ...".america does not need a traitor in the whitehouse .."

uh, don't look now, but...

[Mooney]

17. Shouldn't this be called "What FOUR Latinos are saying about Bill Richardson"?

One thing I'll be really happy about when this election is over is the end of all the referring to monolithic racial blocks, like "Asians think Hillary is better on campaign finance reform" and "Jews think McCain is old" and "Latinos say that Obama has big ears." I don't remember past elections being like this, but maybe this long campaign season is making my mind cloudy.

[leftofcool]

26. It isn't just 4..........these blog comments are all over the net

[Mooney]

36. The OP references four comments.

It's amusing anyway that the subtext of this post is that all the Latinos in America are now profoundly upset with Richardson and will never vote for Obama as a result. Nobody voted for Richardson in the first place, and what I keep reading here anyway is that "Latinos vote for Hillary" (because god knows, they ALL vote the exact same way) so what's the point here anyway?

[leftofcool]

44. I think the point is that the Latino Community is upset

At least they seem to be around here where we live. I have read several blogs in the past couple of days that are posting similar OP's. Not much this reflects the feelings on the entire community in NM but it does here.

[Mooney]

49. But weren't they all going to vote for HRC anyway?

And if not her, then McCain? That's what I keep reading around here anyway, so what does it matter who endorses Obama?

[Hepburn]

77. And you know these people are Latino because....???

Their writing or something gives it away? How the hell do you know the actual ethnicity of the person who posted those comments?

:eyes:

[Tarheel_Dem]

89. Weren't you the one who jumped on me because you "thought"

I had suggested that Hillary's black SD's should jump ship to Obama? I think you called it "reverse racism"? If it was you, then you totally missed the point of my post, but I see you wholeheartedly embrace the sentiments of the o.p. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.

As I see it, Latinos have 3 choices: a) they can cast their lot with a party that openly despises them; b) they can sit this one out or; c) they can throw their support behind the democratic nominee, and right now it appears that will be Sen. Barack Obama. I would advise them to think beyond their devotion to the idea of another Clinton in the WH, and think about who will work most diligently on the issues that affect their daily lives, namely immigration.

Most of us here will be fine under a McCain administration, because we're neither illegal, nor are we Latino. But I would urge them to think long & hard about the party who will welcome them with open arms and treat them with the dignity and respect they so richly deserve; or they can throw in with a party who won't be satisfied until their friends and loved ones are all rounded up and shipped out. From where I sit, it's not a hard decision.

[pathansen]

90. READ POST: 2/3 is not the same as ALL. Also there were too many comments to post

[goclark]

73. Past election were not like this because

never before has a Black been this close to getting the nomination.
And, never before has an hispanic had this much power to be a delegate.

CHANGE is scary for some that have never had to give power to others that may not look like they do.

CHANGE means appreciating the differences and celebrating them.

CHANGE means looking at others for the content of their character.

CHANGE means finding out that those that we once believed were in our corner are not in our corner.

CHANGE means deciding that what is now is not what it has to be.

CHANGE is looking deeply for the content of his/her character and deciding what is best not just for self but for America.

[malik flavors]

18. I thought the Clinton supporters were the ones saying superdelegates should use their own judgement.

So what's the fuss about?

[GarbagemanLB]

24. No no! They need to follow the will of the people, but just in THIS case.

[anamandujano]

118. We watch for the daily updates of Obama's rule revisions on the supers.

It's hard to keep track so we really do appreciate it.

[stevenleser]

21. Reading between the lines? Hillary should have conceded weeks ago...

That is my take. Every day she has continued past when she obviously has lost has caused more divisions in the party. Oh wait, Richardson said that too. Smart fellow.

[stevenleser]

23. By the way, people who post racially divisive garbage like this qualify for my IGNORE LIST.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

25. Once again the true nature of Hillary's thugs comes out. Richardson is a good man & deserves respect

[leftofcool]

27. So Latinos who don't support Obama are thugs?

You should post this one some of the Latino blogs in the comments section.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. He Should Go To East L A And Say It

~

[leftofcool]

45. He can start right here in our community as well

[Hepburn]

79. LOL....

...:rofl:

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

91. Thank you for proving my point.

[saltpoint]

28. It's the role of true leaders to lead, which often includes reorienting the

majority opinion.

Good for Gov. Richardson. He made the right decision.

And I believe History will bear him out.

[VolcanoJen]

32. Watch that avatar.

According to the thoughts put forward in the OP, you might want to Google "Bill Bradley" and "Traitor" next. }(

Leadership really does matter. In fact, I found it to be demonstrable, uncommon leadership that Obama was unwilling to throw a friend under the bus in the wake of media hysteria. That would be common, wouldn't it? That's what politicians do, right? Trash their friends?

Good for Gov. Richardson, indeed.

[saltpoint]

38. I love Gov. Richardson's principled stand against the bullying attempted by

the Big Dog. I'm proud of him anyway, but he stood real tall this week, IMO.

As for Bill Bradley, I hope Senator Obama puts him in a very prominent role in the Obama White House.

Good to see ya, VolcanoJen. How do things look for Dr. Wulsin against Mean Jean?

[VolcanoJen]

42. I think we've finally got Mean Jean on the ropes, this time, Crusoe.

I'm working my ass off for Vic! And, did you notice the way the 2nd Ohio Congressional District went for Obama? Biggest victory of his in the entire state, which doesn't bode well for Mean Jean and other Cincinnati down-ticket Republicans, especially once Obama's on the top of the ticket.

:-)

[Name removed]

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[juajen]

86. Oh, yeah, cause Hillary is so unpopular in Ohio? LOL

NT

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

96. Shows you the kind of character BR has. BB too. Cut from the same cloth.

[K Gardner]

33. What is happening, Crusoe, that people can post such vile words here about one of our

leaders because he made a decision of conscience? This hurts to read. And it hurts me even moreso for Governor Richardson. An honorable and good and decent man, reviled now.

How does the leadership of our party sit around and watch this pattern repeat itself over and over - states don't count, people don't matter, procedures don't count, pledges aren't kept and on and on and on - watch this and do nothing.. how?

(sorry.. more rhetorical than anything, my friend.. :hi:

[saltpoint]

40. Hey K Gardner. Happy Sunday. I realize we're dealing with politicians

but I thought Bill Richardson just did beautifully this week. It was a decision of conscience, as you accurately point out, and it likely should not have been necessary -- since the Clintons lost this thing on Feb. 5th, and they know it, and Bill Richardson knows, too -- but they put him through the ringer to use him and hurt Obama.

Ugly stuff.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

30. I'm Hispanic

I'm for Obama.

[TML]

35. Me too

[Sarah Ibarruri]

41. Awesome!

:toast:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. Latinos Are Not A Monolithic Community

~

[Seen the light]

37. Anonymous blog comments = entire Latino community

Of course. Of course.

[pathansen]

53. A clear majority of 2/3rds of them voted for Hillary.

No one said anything about the entire Latino community.

[musiclawyer]

74. And 2/3 means little. I'm latino

The more the latinos learn of HRC, the less they like her. Her votes were name recognition and established connections. The 2/3 is way overrated anyway because even if those percentages stayed the same, the latino voting numbers are not increasing by nearly as much as the new and indies voters coming out for BHO and they sure as hell are not going to McCain in November.

[cooolandrew]

39. SO would Alberto Gonzales be a better representative. Richardson is very smart he backs Obama for

sincere reasons. To say Richardson is some kind of traitor is not looking at the intellegence of the man at all he would of consider his decision very carefully. He has mentioned many times he appreciates the opportunity he had to serve Bill but recognises a more safer and secure future for Latinos in Barack. As he said in his acceptance speech Obama ahd a chance to thow Richardson under the bus he didn't. If Richardson is backing Barack he is doing so with every possible factor taken into account.

[BeyondGeography]

43. "We latinos have deep divided issues with blacks" (and we want it to stay that way!)

:thumbsup:

[totodeinhere]

47. What vile filth you have posted.

Accusing a good man like Richardson of sexual harassment without any substantiation whatsoever is unconscionable.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

50. What Baloney! Whatever will the Clinton campaign and their little Carville come up with next!

[msedano]

52. hilarity, puro pendejadas from real pendejos

don't think there's such a thing as a monolithic chicana chicano / latina latino bloc. these people speak only for themselves, and the jerk in their knees. further information on their views, consult jose antonio burciaga's essay collection, "drink cultura," especially his hilarious essay on pendejismo. chicana chicano / latina latino voters will support their party's nominee. repiglican hispanics will support mccain. democratic chicanas chicanos / latinas latinos will support obama, or...

[FightTheRight89]

55. Tough.

Suck it up. As an Obama supporter who is also a white male, are all the white males who've endorsed Hillary traitors? Hell no. Maybe misguided, but not TRAITORS.

[juajen]

93. Excuse me, she won his state with a large persentage of latinos

voting for her. What happened to the "superdelegates should go with the person who got the most votes in their states" meme? Obama and his supporters are plain hypocrites. Three very obvious exceptions to the rule: Kerry, Kennedy and now, Richardson. I do call all of them traitors, for all of them have reasons to be grateful for the Clintons' help.

[FightTheRight89]

113. Wonderful.

Superdelegates should go with the person who won the most votes PERIOD.

And the foundation of democracy does not rest on political favors and Washington loyalties, it rests on the votes and voices of the people.

[carlotta]

56. "long history of sexual harrassment as governor"

I've heard this whispered around for a long time. Word has it that he has a definite "woman problem". Apparently people are now angry enough that it's going to come out.

[SunsetDreams]

58. got a link?

I don't usually do "word has it"

Has there been charges filed?

[carlotta]

61. try this one

Three other people — either senior Kerry aides or Democrats involved in the vice presidential search process — said in interviews that Richardson’s past was not subject to any examination aimed at determining whether his personal conduct with women was a potential political problem

<snip>

I will frame this as a “question” for Bill Richardson.

Have you behaved inappropriately or not in public settings with female members of your government administration, jokingly or not? Have you gestured to female public servants and political appointees — who work as colleagues with you — and made lewd gestures, specifically pointing to them and then pointing at your crotch with a room full of media and other politicos there in the room?

I ask this not to demean or undermine Richardson.

I ask it because I was not in the room when this particular incident occurred but many others were — and rumors have long swept around Santa Fe that Bill Richardson makes a constant festive joke out of demeaning women. These incidents don’t have to do with the comments by Lt. Governor Diane Denish that Richardson is a “touchy” and “feely” Governor. They have to do with questions about a far more crude kind of gesture that demeans professional women.

These concerns I have heard may be completely contrived, but after speaking with several senior level New Mexico officials, my sense is that it needs to at a minimum be addressed by the Governor who wants to be President. Some suggest that Richardson “can’t stop himself” or “doesn’t even realize what he is doing” or thinks that “this sort of thing is part of New Mexico’s political scene.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/08/how-busy-are-bill-richardsons-busy-hands/

[Lerkfish]

64. so, here comes the swiftboating of richardson, the SAME SUPERDELEGATE

the clintons wanted.

interesting. So, if Richardson HAD endorsed the clintons, he'd be okeydokey with some, right?

[totodeinhere]

71. Exactly. If he had endorsed Clinton we would not hear a peep about this.

[Tom Rinaldo]

103. Sure we would. But we would here it from Obama supporters instead

You know it's true.

[totodeinhere]

108. Not from this Obama supporter.

And this is not the type of politics that is championed by Senator Obama. It is time to put an end to gutter gotcha politics. Senator Obama will bring a new type of politics that will bring this country together.

[NYCGirl]

76. You have a link that doesn't come from an ULTRA RIGHT WING blog? NT

[Garbo 2004]

101. Is hotair.com one of your regular sites? It's Michelle Malkin's site.

Now there actually is an original source, but it isn't a notorious RW slander site. Why do you link to Malkin's site?

[Hepburn]

82. What fucking bullshit....

...you are a pig for posting something like this based on rumors.

:puke:

[ima_sinnic]

57. I call bullshit! "all" Latinos now favor cronyism, & "all" vote one way ONLY?

who's to say these aren't some of our very own trolls, now at loose ends because of the shunning they've gotten here, trolling other boards and posing as "disgruntled Latinos"?

whatever, it just doesn't compute. Latinos aren't going to vote "as a bloc" any more than African Americans or, for that matter, whites do.

[dugggy]

59. BR is just a political whore...selling out to the highest bidder.

[Lerkfish]

60. eventually, the clinton campaign will realize how RACIST it is to call latinos RACIST

as if they were a monolithic "firewall" to save the clinton candidacy.

Were I latino, I would be deeply offended at the implications. Hell, I'm NOT latino and I'm offended at the not-so-subtle racial tones of the clinton campaign.

[mattclearing]

65. Quoting the comments section of a blog? n/t

[polichick]

66. That's funny - I watched the announcement in an Obama office standing beside a Latino...

...who was thrilled that Richardson endorsed Barack.

[jackson_dem]

67. He stabbed the Clintons in the back but saying he is a "traitor to his race" is wrong

That is like Obamites saying the same thing about Michael Nutter or Obama's national co-chair saying that to threaten black superdelegates to support Obama based on color. Still thanks for posting. It is always good to hear what is going on in the real world and due to the digital divide we don't have many Latinos posting in the blogosphere.

[rodeodance]

98. nothing but flamebait in that phase

[Garbo 2004]

112. Actually, there are Latinos here at DU. Including long term DU'ers. Haven't you noticed?

Some of us have rather amazingly managed to "cross" that "digital divide." /s

Good grief.

[Skittles]

70. that's just nasty

this is a free country and Mr. Richardson is free to endorse who he wishes

[GOPBasher]

72. "We latinos have deep divided issues with blacks."

What the fuck is that? I love how blatently racist this fucking campaign is. I have news for people, our entire NATION has plenty of problems right now, and not one of these problems gives a tenth of a shit what color your skin is. We need to be united, but it seems like others have their own agendas. Well, to all the people who will help McCain get elected, FUCK YOU YOU MOTHERFUCKERS!!!1

For the record, I don't mean to be, in this post, either pro-Hillary or pro-Obama; I'm just saying that eventually, we ALL need to unite behind whomever is the nominee.

[EFerrari]

121. Who are these creeps?

I've always had a foot in three cultures and of all of them, the Latino culture has always seemed the most tolerant, due in part to the strong Native American influence.

We have our haters just like all groups have but, they have never been the majority. I don't even believe these entries are real, to tell you the truth.

LOL, you may like this. Most Latinos who grow up in traditional culture are taught it is very impolite to say "no". So, don't ask me for directions, bro, because I'll have to misinform you rather than tell you I don't know the answer because that amounts to a refusal.

Another thing about Latino culture that I haven't found anywhere else yet. When we describe people who are different than us, it is a habit of language to express affection in the form of the diminutive. So a girl becomes "a dear little girl". The black neighbor becomes "The dear little black neighbor". And so on. The diminutive isn't used to minimize but to make familiar, as an linguistic embrace.

I don't know any other culture that treats other people with not only respect but with affection in their very language. It's a way to make the Other more familiar and a way to extend respect.

Who else does that? :shrug:

/bad typing day.

[Aussie leftie]

75. Richardson will have to face the people who voted for him

when he next stands for election. It will be interesting to see how he does. I wonder if he has underestimated his ex supporters' memories.

[rug]

81. He's hoping to be in the West Wing before he has to deal with it.

[Aussie leftie]

83. it makes you wonder what promises were made

[Tarheel_Dem]

97. Yes it will be interesting. It will also be interesting to see how the

black Clinton Supers will fare in their next elections. They could also be facing some "challenges" just as Al Wynn found out. Sounds kinda stupid doesn't it? But what's good for the goose.......

[powergirl]

78. This Latina supports Obama

I'm 43, Hispanic, wife, mother of three, Catholic, etc. I support Obama because he can win.

[Hepburn]

84. My next door neighbor is a Latina....and she was heading Obama...

..and when Richardson endorsed him, she came on board big time for Obama. She just gushed this morning about how great she thinks Richardson is.

:hi:

[powergirl]

85. Richardson is beloved by the Latino community

My dad was in Argentina last month. The Argentines were suggesting Richardson as VP for Obama. :toast:

[GoldieAZ49]

87. Sounds like he is done as governor

O will throw him overboard if there is negative press on Richardson

[ElsewheresDaughter]

107. He knew he would be done too. Obama must have offered him something really good.

[GoldieAZ49]

109. What good it will do him if he isn't elected? Politics is an ugly business nt

[DrFunkenstein]

92. What is Spanish for "He Is DEAD to Me"?

This guy is clearly a Clinton supporter, because the last thing that Hillary Clinton would want in her campaign is some guy with a loooooong history of sexual harrassment. Oh wait, that would be her husband.

What makes it even more a Clinton supporter is the outraged sense of entitlement...and the explicit sense of quid pro quo. What would Norman Hsu and Denise Rich make of it all?

[SoCalDem]

94. Sindrome de Estocolmo

:rofl:

[grantcart]

95. If your correct then it means that Richardson's decision was based on principle and not opportunism

and I agree

[ElsewheresDaughter]

100. Richardson is not stupid...he new the Latinos would not vote him in office again after this . Obama

most definitely made him a very lucrative offer....if not veep it is something better then Gov of N.M

[grantcart]

114. Richardson is not stupid - - - do you ever think things thru

1) Richardson is not stupid

2) Richardson knows that his endorsement will end his career in NM

3) Richardson wants to have higher office

4) Richardson -- who is not stupid -- risks everything to endorse a candidate who will provide another higher position -- and picks Obama.

5) Richardson -- who is not stupid -- is absolutely convinced that Obama is going to be President - or endorsing him would in fact be stupid.


You contniually make posts that at their heart actually support Obama.


Let me clue you in on something. Richardson is not stupid. And he turned out to be highly principled. As the highest ranking Hispanic in the party he was absolutley guranteed a cabinet position in any repeat any Democratic administration. He just had to wait it out like all of the others. Had he sat back he still would have exactly the same prospect for national office in either of the nominees administrations. Now he just reduced that by half. Richardson like many others saw something he did not like.

Ask yourself why more Senators endorse Obama than Clinton (and did so before he was winning big) Why do more govenors endorse for the same reasons. Why does Senator Boxer (her best friend in the Senate and intermarried with the Rodhams) refuse to publicly endorse or campaign for her.

There is a pattern here that her peers, the people she works with the closest, have chosen Obama despite the fact that they have very close relations with Bill and have known them for decades.

This primary campaign has been as much about the rejection of Hillary Clinton as it has been about the selection of Barack Obama.

Go ahead and slander them all - they are all dead to you know anyway.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

99. Obama can't win without them.

[maximusveritas]

104. LOL, you mean what 4 anonymous trolls on the internet are saying about Richardson

[mmonk]

111. Everybody who isn't for Clinton is a traitor and generally a very bad person.

We get the theme.

[LordJFT]

116. to suggest that he owes something to latinos because he's latino is stupid and racist

[my3boyz]

119. They are just ticked because Richardson does not share their racist views! nt

[Quixote1818]

122. Funny, plenty of Latino's called into local Albuquerque radio the other day

and thought it was great.

[Alexander]

123. That's funny, my Latino roommate voted Obama.

I guess ethnic groups don't vote as monolithic blocs, do they?

What an idiotic OP.

[redqueen]

127. And this Latina and her Latino brother and dad also voted for Obama.

I guess Latinos like us must be analogous to all those states that don't count.

[IronLionZion]

130. traiters, all of you

Don't you know that if it doesn't help Hillary then it just doesn't count? The popular vote doesn't count. Delegates don't count.

[Beacool]

124. Si, traidor es la palabra!!!!!!!!

Traitor and back stabber is precisely what I heard from my peeps to describe Richardson. That is, from those who knew who the heck the guy is in the first place. Most hispanics who are not watching politics closely have no idea who he is, one of the talk shows sent someone all over NYC over the weekend and found that 90% of the people didn't know him at all.

So much for bringing over the hispanic vote to Obama........ LOL!!!!!

[EFerrari]

125. That's not what I'm hearing from my phonebanking.

Hasta demasiado divertido.

lol

[Beacool]

128. Traidor y pendejo, el muy desgraciado!!!

One thing latin people are is loyal to those who have helped them. I worked my buns off in NJ among the hispanic community to get out the vote on Feb. 5th. For every one Obama supporter (generally the very young) I had at least 10 for Hillary. The black community may have thrown the Clintons under the bus, but hispanics remember their friends. Pity I can't say the same thing for Richardson........

[redqueen]

131. deleted

[EFerrari]

132. Insults, threats and orders. They've worked so well for Hillary so far.

The only thing the Clintons have done for us is show up to our churches and ask for votes and money.

Now we have a choice.

[Beacool]

133. Yep, a choice of an empty suit........ n/t

[EFerrari]

134. Another thoughtful argument. n/t