Just heard that Obama camp apologized for McCarthy snark on Bill Clinton comment by staffer:

[rodeodance]

The Obama camp throwing the kitchen sink at Hillary went to far.

But glad to see this.


Local TV news—but this article gives more detail.


Today on Fox News Sunday, Bill Richardson said that President Clinton was not questioning Sen. Obama's patriotism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxUHebdq22c

Andrew Sullivan and Kathleen Parker “ both prominent critics of President Clinton“ agree.

In response to the same comments, the Obama campaign compared Bill Clinton to Joe McCarthy. Read Howard Wolfson memo on the Obama campaign's daily character attacks.

…….We can not imagine that the Obama Campaign really believes that the comments above were an attack on Senator Obama in any way; rather their attempt to cast the comments in that light are nothing more than a transparent attempt to shift the media’s focus away from his recent troubles (http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6668).

Of course, this is not the first time in this campaign that General McPeak has engaged in personal attacks. On February 2, General McPeak was forced to apologize for remarks he made about Senator Clinton ( http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-iraqpol2feb02,0,1272905.story)……..

http://thepage.time.com/clinton-memo-on-bill-clinton-being-compared-to-joe-mccarthy /

[polichick]

1. The Obama campaign has a policy of taking the high road...

When is Bill going to apologize for his disgusting remark ~ or Geraldine Ferraro for hers?? Oh yeah, never.

[rodeodance]

2. PUFFF

The Obama campaign has a policy of taking the high road...
Posted by polichick


When is Bill going to apologize for his disgusting remark ~ or Geraldine Ferraro for hers?? Oh yeah, never.

[polichick]

3. What's your point? Where is Bill's apology?

[rodeodance]

6. why should he say sorrry?---

[polichick]

9. And that's one of the HUGE differences between the candidates...

Obama can see when someone is impolite, even if that someone is defending him ~ the Clintons are both such narcissists they excuse anything done on their behalf.

[rodeodance]

13. stop whinning

[polichick]

16. Lol - nice try!

[avrdream]

63. Apology for WHAT? Have you even read the damn quote?

I think not.

[Straight Shooter]

21. Leave the high road, crawl into the ditch and throw stones, then jump back onto the high road.

The pattern is beginning to establish itself.

[polichick]

25. When has Barack ever crawled into a ditch and thrown stones???

And when his people do, they either leave or apologize. Not so, the Clintons ~ on either count.

[Straight Shooter]

28. The pattern is to inflict damage and pretend you're above it all.

I thought Obama was supposed to be an inspiration of hope, unity, and CHANGE. Not so much, it seems.

[polichick]

29. You didn't answer my question - but that's no surprise.

[Straight Shooter]

33. You really think Obama is above it all?

Riiiiight. Now, does that answer your question?

[polichick]

36. You haven't mentioned one instance when Barack "crawled into a ditch."

[rodeodance]

41. Its a metaphor for esplaining himself-like he did in his big race speach

[polichick]

44. Lol - so there aren't any instances. What a surprise!!!

[rodeodance]

47. I just gave you one. in my post.

[The Doctor.]

73. Where?

Look, polichick made the point that Obama's campaign takes responsibility, one way or another, for the statements of their supporters. Then polichick asks for evidence that Obama has 'crawled into a ditch'.

I read your post. There's nothing in there that shows that Obama "crawled in a ditch" to sling mud.

So let's see it.

[Texas Hill Country]

82. oh BS, and he does it contantly

[rodeodance]

27. It sure is. BO throws out the smean--lets the media eat it, then has to apologize

[TacticalPeek]

10. Yes, habitual practitioners it would seem.

The gang that couldn't insult straight.

[Skip Intro]

40. High road???

Hillary is bush/cheney lite?

She cant be trusted?

She is dishonest?

She's the same as gouliani and romney?

"Fairy tale" was a racist comment?

High road?

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

50. I had to chuckle at that also, It was so silly I just could not respond

[Iceburg]

55. Obama camp takes the high road if and only when the low road is a dead end.

An observer from the north.

[rodeodance]

57. ;-)

[Evergreen Emerald]

61. High road? LOL that is hysterical! You have bought the load of crap

He pretends to take the high road while accusing Clinton of

killing Bhutto
being a Racist
being like McCarthy.

Obama's camp is worse than willy horton. It should take more than just pretending to take the high road....but why should it.

Obama is a made up character anyway.

[rodeodance]

71. Those obamafolks really believe their bull --the stuff they make up

[Auntie Bush]

75. Yup...they all bought enough crap to fertilize their victory garden.

They'll be eating it when they lose to Mccain. Dems are making their own bed and are going to get a chance to lay in it...right on top of all that crap they carefully and indiscriminately shoveled upon it.

[polmaven]

76. President Clinton should apologize

for saying something he never said? :shrug:

You've completely lost me on that one!

[depakid]

4. The Obama campaign has a policy of taking the high road...

which is worrysome- because unfortunately- the high road has proven repeatedly to be losing road in American politics.

[polichick]

5. I hope not this time. Personally I don't know how they do it...

Obama can stay serene in the worst situations ~ I'd be cursing someone out!

[depakid]

11. What he needs to do is have his surrogates out doing the dirty work

and if he gets the nomination, he needs a "hatchet man" as his VP choice. Someone with gravitas and who won't take shit- at least not without giving it right back.

[polichick]

20. Barack doesn't believe in doing that...

...I could never be employed by the campaign because the paid people are very polite about the other side ~ and we volunteers do the absolute best we can while working on his behalf. He really means it when he talks about a new kind of politics.

[depakid]

22. Then he's destined to lose

and take everyone else down with him... just like Dukakis and Kerry did.

Not the brightest nor the most ethical way to try to prove a point.

If he's not up to doing what it takes to win, he shouldn't be seeking the nomination.

[polichick]

23. Well, so far so good...

I think his gift is bringing out the best in people ~ and he's banking on Americans being better than our current politics.

[CoffeeCat]

30. polichick, I agree with you...

I love that Obama takes the high road and is so above-board. I had to laugh when you
said that you could never be employed by the campaign, because they are so very polite
and into their philosophy of remaining positive and not attacking the other side.
I feel strongly that you must fight this stuff. I don't think I'd make it one day in
the Obama campaign. I'm no Mark Penn, but I feel that you must fight back and be as focused
on the positive as you are about the realities--that you must take on strongly.

It's just very difficult to let go of that mentality, after seeing so many of our Dems
sliced to bits.

I supposed I'm operating out of fear, when it comes to my political philosophies, and maybe
Obama will truly change the political landscape.

I agree with you, that he really wants a new kind of politics, but it almost seems as if
being gracious and fair leaves a politician with a competitive disadvantage these days.

Maybe that's cynical.

[polichick]

35. I really hope they're right...

It's amazing to watch his staffers in action ~ they don't waste one second on negativity and every ounce of energy goes toward getting the work done. But they're some of the smartest, kindest, most fun people I've ever met. It's inspiring, and I can see how they turn people around by being that way. One Clinton supporter came into the office when it first opened feeling pretty fearful about Obama. She was obviously angry, bordering on hostile, but left feeling happy and reassured after talking with a few people. It's very contagious at the grassroots level ~ and Obama believes that change starts at the bottom.

Let's keep our fingers crossed!:)

[ProSense]

7. What a completely misleading title! Bill is despicable, and so is Hillary's campaign

Leading Obama Adviser Attacks Ex-President for Remarks

<...>

In response to reporters in Oregon on Friday, General McPeak compared the former president to Senator Joseph R. McCarthy, who aggressively pursued those he believed to be communists in the 1950s. “I was going to college when Joe McCarthy was accusing good Americans of being traitors, so I’ve had enough of it,” General McPeak said.

The bitter exchange between the surrogates for Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama highlighted the rising tensions between the two Democratic presidential candidates in their prolonged fight for the party’s nomination.

“To liken these comments to McCarthyism is absurd,” said Phil Singer, a Clinton campaign spokesman. He said General McPeak was misinterpreting the remarks, suggesting it was an intentional effort to divert attention from a controversy involving inflammatory statements by Mr. Obama’s former pastor.

Never mind the NYT's biased headline: "attacks"?

Singer is continuing to push the smear against Wright.

CLINTON: Ross gave a good answer but I've got to respond directly to Mr. Bush. You have questioned my patriotism.

BUSH: (Inaudible).

CLINTON: You even brought some right-wing congressman into the White House to plot how to attack me for going to Russia in 1969-70, when over 50,000 other Americans did. Now, I honor your service in World War II, I honor Mr. Perot's service in uniform and the service of every man and woman who ever served, including Admiral Crowe, who was your Chairman of the joint Chiefs and who's supporting me. But when Joe McCarthy went around this country attacking people's patriotism he was wrong. He was wrong. And a senator from Connecticut stood up to him named Prescott Bush. Your father was right to stand up to Joe McCarthy, you were wrong to attack my patriotism. I was opposed to the war but I loved my country and we need a president who will bring this country together, not divide it. We've had enough division. I want to lead a unified country.

link

Bill 1992, meet Bill 2008!

[rodeodance]

8. do you understand the subject line?

[polichick]

12. An honest subject line would read:

"Obama campaign takes the high road while Bill Clinton once again rolls around in the gutter."

[rodeodance]

14. I like mine better

[ProSense]

17. Do you understand misleading? n/t

[rodeodance]

26. End of discussion. OP is not misleading.

[ProSense]

32. Yes is is! Where is the apology from the Obama campaign? Link? n/t

[rodeodance]

38. guess you did not read my OP--or you can not comprehend what I wrote.

[ProSense]

45. "Just heard that Obama camp apologized" Where is the apology?

Are you lying?

[rodeodance]

49. you still have not read the text of my OP or you would not ask such FOOLISH questions

[ProSense]

52. You can't produce it can you? You posted BS and now you're spinning more BS! n/t

[rodeodance]

53. Here; FROM THE TV TO MY EAR TO THE POST. now do you get it??

[rodeodance]

80. gee, all that poster had to do was to read the OP. odd odd odd

[joshcryer]

15. Are you defending Bush Sr?

Seriously?

[ProSense]

19. Are you pretending not to see the hypocrisy? Seriously? n/t

[rodeodance]

51. I see lots of hypocracy in the BO camp.

[joshcryer]

58. There's no hypocracy. A dem called out another dem on McCarthy tactics.

Clinton (a dem) called out Bush (a republican) on McCarthy tactics.

They're not comparable.

[ProSense]

64. McCarthy tactics are the same no matter who uses them. What's your opinion about all the

praise Bill despicably lavished on McCain in the video?

He knew exactly what he was implying!

[rodeodance]

69. It was the BO camp who used them!!!*** Stay focused on the topic of the Op please

[rodeodance]

72. right ----and see this:

WASHINGTON - Prominent supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama on Sunday both faulted Obama's campaign for allowing a retired general and backer of the Illinois senator to equate comments by Clinton's husband — which appeared to question Obama's patriotism — to McCarthyism.

"I don't believe President Clinton was implying that," said New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, a former presidential candidate who endorsed Obama last week. "But the point here ... is that the campaign has gotten too negative — too many personal attacks, too much negativity that is not resounding with the public."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080323/ap_on_...51WOJzfcuiyFz4D

[rug]

18. When is he going to apologize for the Hillary Endorsed Mccain bullshit?

[rodeodance]

24. Since no one ever said that there is NO need to say sorry

[rug]

31. That's true, outside of GDP.

[guruoo]

34. An unfortunate slip of the tongue made in the heat of battle -Let's move on n/t

[rodeodance]

37. pretty big slip!!

[polichick]

39. Wish Bill's disgusting comment had been a slip, rather than a calculated decision.

[rodeodance]

43. Since the O. camp did the sorry bit, it was the staff comment that was disgusting

[guruoo]

48. Why destroy Hillary and WJC? Because,

"yes we can!'

Clinton said "why did you do this?
Gingrich smiled, and said "Because we can"

[rodeodance]

56. ah yes, I recal Newt saying that now that bring it up.

[guruoo]

46. I try best I can to apply the same standard to BO that I do to Hillary

And let me tell ya,
It ain't easy!

[ej510]

42. Donnie McClurkin is a gay man that hates himself.

But he can sing his ass off though.

[Hoof Hearted]

54. That was a pathetic and childish snark for someone who's campaign claims to be "above" all that.

Things are beginning to devolve rather quickly. I know Obama hired lots of people around him who have been around the block - but it hasn't been going well, and they couldn't save him from himself on that radio program either.

[stevietheman]

59. This rubbish being thrown on our nominee Barack Obama needs to end. n/t

n/t

[rodeodance]

60. NEWSFLASH: BO is NOT 'our nominee"

This rubbish being thrown on our nominee Barack Obama needs to end. n/t

n/t

[rodeodance]

62. NEWSFLASH: It was a BO staffer who made the slime against Bill Clinton.

[mmonk]

65. The Obama camp hasn't been throwing the kitchen sink.

Your candidate started the low road. Just because they act swiftly on such matters does not mean what you pretend.

[rodeodance]

70. if you keep up with news you would not say such foolish stuff.!!

[Forkboy]

66. Selective outrage by Rodeodance, who doesn't mind Newsmax and Hannity being used.

A flaming hypocrite if ever there was one, and not to be taken seriously for a second unless one is a fellow groupie with no critical thinking skills.

[guruoo]

67. K&R

[rodeodance]

68. "supporters of Clinton &Obama on Sunday both faulted Obama's campaign"

WASHINGTON - Prominent supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama on Sunday both faulted Obama's campaign for allowing a retired general and backer of the Illinois senator to equate comments by Clinton's husband — which appeared to question Obama's patriotism — to McCarthyism.

"I don't believe President Clinton was implying that," said New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, a former presidential candidate who endorsed Obama last week. "But the point here ... is that the campaign has gotten too negative — too many personal attacks, too much negativity that is not resounding with the public."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080323/ap_on_...51WOJzfcuiyFz4D

[polmaven]

78. And he said it again..

While INTRODUCING Senator Obama, with the Senator standing right next to him, and the Senator did NOT, "as far as I know", try to disassociate himself from the notion during his speech. To me, that shows tacit agreement.

Gotten too negative indeed!

[Auntie Bush]

74. Here's another good article on the subject

http://www.adelphia.net/news/read.php?ps=1017&id=14492992&_LT=HOME_LARSDCCLM_UNEWS

saying just what Clinton supporters here have been complaining about.

Obama runs a negative campaign while claiming to take the high road.

[Mezzo]

77. But...but..it's HIllary's fault that they said that...or Bill's fault.

I am glad to see the Obama camp step up, on the serious.

[rodeodance]

79. So many obamafolks are boring broken records!

[Texas Hill Country]

81. It wasnt a "staffer", it was the friggin Co-Chair of his campaign...