As none of the candidates will hit the magic number of delegates

[styersc]

perhaps we should agree to back the candidate with the most popular vote and call it a day.

We have got to get on with defeating McCain.

[TwilightGardener]

1. How about backing the candidate with the most delegates, especially

since the popular vote is not how the contest is run? There were caucuses that did not even tally/report individual votes, for example.

[styersc]

2. But "How the Game is Run" allows Super Delegates to cast a

vote according to what they think is best for the party and man are asking for that "rule" to be set aside. The "game is run" with Florida and Michigan, but not this time.

Why is "how the game is run" prone to adjustment but only towards one end, in the interest of one candidate?

[shraby]

3. Number of delegates is how the game IS run.

Trying to change to pop. vote is changing the game at the end.

[TheDoorbellRang]

4. If you're upset about the super D's and want to change the rules

Let's just get rid of the super D's and say there's only 3253 pledged delegates, so the magic number to reach is 1627. Totally doable.

Yup. Perhaps we should agree to back the candidate with the most pledged delegates (= "will of the people") and call it a day.

[slick8790]

6. 1627, eh? I like that idea.

Perhaps it's just a coincidence but RCP has Obama with 1628 delegates. Looks like we have a winner! :)

[TheDoorbellRang]

8. But sadly, 200+ of those are super D's

Playing by my new "rules," they'd have to be eliminated. :-(

Obama should have the 200+ PD's to hit 1627 probably in Oregon. My personal thoughts on this are that the super D's will start trickling in between now and then, one or two at a time rather than en masse, so that there will be the national sense that a primary vote in a particular state puts him over the top, rather than the super D vote.

I don't think there's any way the Dem leaders would let this drag on to the convention -- therein lies political suicide.

[grantcart]

5. when we were approaching super Tuesday and Barack Obama was going

to places like Idaho - there was great derision in here that he was foolish.

He then won the most delegates on Super Tuesday as well as Jan Feb and March.

Now that he is far ahead you want to change the rules. There is a word for it. It is called cheating.


Had the popular vote been the indicator of choice he would have run a different campaign and emphasized running up the popular vote.

When Barack Obama gets 211 more pledged delegates he will have 50% +1 of the candidates that are going to be elected by primary or caucus. A number of super delegates have indicated that they will move then.

There is every reason to believe that by Oregon Obama will be the nominee of our party.

[NoBushSpokenHere]

7. I would think the most popular votes or the most pledged

delegates should be enough - I am getting sick and tired of this super delegates should ignore that and vote for "What's Good for the Party" crap! Who says that the one leading isn't good for the party? So there! I cannot be President because after a few months in this forum this PACIFIST IS LIKE GETTING TICKED OFF AT THE INSANITY HERE