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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:08 PM
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When Kerry wooed McCain
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 10:10 PM by JoFerret
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:09 PM
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1. It makes mcSame angry, now.
We need to harp it.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:12 PM
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4. That doesn't seem hard to do
What Mr. McCain almost never mentions are two extraordinary moments in his political past that are at odds with the candidate of the present: His discussions in 2001 with Democrats about leaving the Republican Party, and his conversations in 2004 with Senator John Kerry about becoming Mr. Kerry’s running mate on the Democratic presidential ticket.

There are wildly divergent versions of both episodes, depending on whether Democrats or Mr. McCain and his advisers are telling the story. The Democrats, including Mr. Kerry, say that not only did Mr. McCain express interest but that it was his camp that initially reached out to them. Mr. McCain and his aides counter that in both cases the Democrats were the suitors and Mr. McCain the unwilling bride.

Either way, the episodes shed light on a bitter period in Mr. McCain’s life after the 2000 presidential election, when he was, at least in policy terms, drifting away from his own party. They also offer a glimpse into his psychological makeup and the difficulties in putting a label on his political ideology over many years in the Senate.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:10 PM
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2. It was the other way around
can you read?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:13 PM
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5. I can
"divergent views"

It made (more) sense back then.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:11 PM
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3. Remember when you distorted the NYT article showing McCain lied? n/t
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:26 PM
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7. What are you on about now....?
<<....Mr. Kerry was so enthusiastic about the notion that he relentlessly pursued Mr. McCain, even to the point of offering him a large part of the president’s national security responsibilities.>>

The article presents what is calls "wildly divergent views" but it seems they were both flirting, dating and into the heavy petting stage of the romance.

This is why the GOP hate him. Well - one of their reasons.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:34 PM
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9. Rumors and spin, McCain lied and a bunch of people were excited.
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 10:37 PM by ProSense
Mr. Kerry, reacting to reports in The Hill newspaper last year about Mr. Weaver’s 2001 approach to Mr. Downey, said he saw a pattern. “It doesn’t surprise me completely because his people similarly approached me to engage in a discussion about his potentially being on the ticket as vice president,” Mr. Kerry told Jonathan Singer of MyDD.com, a prominent liberal blog, in remarks that are available in an audio version online and that Mr. Kerry’s staff said last week were accurate. “So his people were active — let’s put it that way.”


McCain wanted to change his party in 2001, probably related to the treatment he got, but this is his fantasy.


The history of McCain's lie

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:13 PM
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6. I heard it was McSame's idea. nt
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:27 PM
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8. The article provides background on that
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:01 AM
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10. The moral of this story....don't fuck with Elisabeth Bumiller.
:rofl:

McCain is not believable on this - his temper got the best of him - once again :-)
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:38 AM
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11. She is not the leading light of the NYTimes - true
But a lot rings true with the story. Old friends and senate buddies with plenty in common and McCain royally pissed with Bushco.
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