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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:15 AM
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Poll question: Would you vote for: Kathleen Sebelius or Hillary Clinton?
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 12:21 AM by aaroh
Just say Kathleen Sebelius the governor of Kansas was in the race with senator Hillary Clinton as the last (wo)men standing in the primary election who would you prefer as the democratic presidential nominee?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius - Kathleen Sebelius



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_clinton Hillary Clinton
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:16 AM
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1. Ms. Sebelius. I like her a lot.
I liked her old man, too.


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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:18 AM
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2. "last man standing"?
Just had to mention that before the PC crowd arrived!
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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:21 AM
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6. fixed, ta
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:18 AM
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3. Sebelius. Maybe some day soon I can vote for her for VP.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:20 AM
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4. Classic example of knee-jerk Clinton hatred. Seblieus is probably to the right of Clinton
Yet the knee-jerk reaction is to vote against her.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:21 AM
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5. Oh it's just all the obamaites saying they would vote for her.
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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:27 AM
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7. start up a Clark Vs Obama poll then
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:36 AM
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11. How about Ben Nelson versus Hillary Clinton?
This is about Clinton hatred. Clark vs. Obama wouldn't have anything to do with the irrational Clinton hatred on the blogosphere for having the same basic views that their hero obama has.
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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:42 AM
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16. I'd choose neither on that one
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:46 AM
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19. If that's my choice....pull the trigger.
Yeah, that Obama sure loved voting against the banning of cluster bombs, just like Hillary.

Oh wait....:eyes:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:50 AM
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22. Has he vowed to stop the production, use, and sale of cluster bombs?
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 12:50 AM by jackson_dem
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:51 AM
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24. Has he voted to ban them? Yes. Has Hillary? No.
I'll take voting to ban them over voting not to ban them any day of the week.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:28 AM
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8. she is also in a very red state
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:29 AM
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9. Classic example of a Shillbot not paying attention. Sebelius just vetoed new coal plants in KS.
Hillary Clinton's key strategic adviser is tied to Blackwater, Monsanto and Exelon.

Spin that one.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:37 AM
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13. LMAO! You don't have a clue about Obama's record on behalf of the coal and nuke industries...
:rofl:
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:43 AM
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17. Actually I do. His connections are nothing compared to Mark Penn's.
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 12:43 AM by Alexander
And since Mark Penn is essentially running the Clinton campaign, it seems like you have some explaining to do.

By the way, how is this relevant? Obama was not mentioned in the thread. Only Sebelius and Clinton. Way to stay on topic!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:48 AM
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21. And Axlerod's. Now what about the candidate's records?
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 12:48 AM by jackson_dem
You are amusing. You love Obama despite him being exactly what you hate.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:53 AM
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26. This is a thread about Sebelius v. Clinton, first of all...
Your anti-Obama hate obviously knows no bounds.

Second, you spelled "Axelrod" wrong.

Third, Obama's ties to Exelon are greatly exaggerated, whereas Mark Penn's are not.

Fourth, I don't love Obama, or any politician for that matter, and I challenge you to find a post of mine where I said I did. Put up or shut up.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:35 AM
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10. I've never even heard of Kathleen Sibelius
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:37 AM
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12. That's your problem, isn't it?
Sorry you're not well-informed. :shrug:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:38 AM
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14. She is the DLC's best chance to win the veep spot with Richardson running a solid second
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 12:39 AM by jackson_dem
The suckers in the blogosphere can't connect the dots. There is a reason Seblies, Richardson, Nelson, and so many other DLC members love Barack Obama, who the blogosphere blindly thinks is some sort of resolute foe of the DLC. :rofl:
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:45 AM
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18. Yeah, Russ Feingold and Dennis Kucinich are total DLC shills.
:rofl:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:46 AM
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20. What relevance does that have?
If he is, as alleged, a resolute foe of the DLC the DLC would surely be aware of it.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:50 AM
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23. You brought up Obama in a thread unrelated to him. You start with explaining relevance.
If you're really that thick, I'll explain.

You mentioned Sebelius, Richardson and Nelson (which Nelson?) supporting Obama as if it's evidence that he's just like the DLC.

I mentioned Kucinich and Feingold because they are decidedly anti-DLC and they support Obama as well. Kucinich even asked his Iowa supporters to caucus for Obama.

And the DLC is aware of it. Obama asked his name be taken off of their list of members. They complied.

Too bad you weren't aware of it. But I guess if you're not aware of it, it can't be true.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:53 AM
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25. No, it is evidence of the obvious: the DLC is comfortable with him
As would any DLC member who looked at his record.

Ben Nelson.

Kucinich has not endorsed Obama. He is on record saying his Iowa deals are out of pure self-interest.

He didn't get on the list by chance. They looked at his record. His record is even more conservative now than it was then.

Really? So Richardson, Sebelius, Nelson, and so on including even Al From are unaware of the double secret that only the blogosphere "knows"? :rofl:
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:56 AM
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29. Right. That's why they took his name off their website. Sure.
That's why Vilsack, Clinton, Carper and Ford are all working against him. Because they're so comfortable with him. Right. :eyes:

Ben Nelson supports Obama because his state voted for him.

Who am I going to believe - the DLC's own list of members, or some anonymous shill named "jackson_dem" who claims to know everything?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Nice try. You're a bigger loser than your candidate.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:56 AM
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28. Other than Richardson, those are not big DLC names
The people really in charge of the DLC (the former chairs, for example), overwhelmingly support Hillary.
Gephardt, Breaux, Bayh, Vilsack, and of course Bill all support her.
None of them support Obama. Richardson was a late endorser, probably for his own self-interest, rather than any love for Obama.
Oh yeah, and Lieberman supports McCain.

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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:57 AM
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30. Shh. Let jackson_dem be obnoxiously ignorant. He's funnier that way.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:39 AM
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15. She is:
___ a) an alto in the Mormon Tabernacle Choir
___ b) a short-order cook in Beaumont, Texas
___ c) the Governor of Kansas
___ d) a phantom literary creation of Stephen King
___ e) all of the above
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:55 AM
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27. would need to know more about Sebelius
and see how she did against Hillary Clinton in debates and other things.
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