Why J-Mac can't win in the GE

[panader0]

I'm tired of seeing the posts saying how one of our candidates cannot win the GE. OK, I'm an Obama supporter. I will vote for the Dem nominee in the fall. I have heard and read countless arguments between Obama and Clinton supporters, and recent polls suggest that members of both camps will not vote for the opposing Dem in the GE. I say BULL!
J-Mac can be easily defeated by either of our candidates. He really is too old, and is already losing his grip on the facts. His 100 year plan for Iraq will not fly with the voters. He could not hold his own in debates with either Dem. He is vulnerable on so many fronts that I can't think of them all, but once our own candidate is decided, Dems and DUer's will line up against him like never before. As a 57 year old white blue collar worker, I support the groundswell I see in the Obama campaign. But either of our candidates WILL beat J-Mac.

[Coexist]

1. we haven't even begun campaigning against him

just wait!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

2. While McSame and his surrogate, FOX, started two weeks ago.

[Atman]

3. The polls are being used to obscure facts, not present facts.

They ask about two separate races, Obama vs. McCain, then Clinton vs. McCain. But they don't present the question as if ONLY Obama OR Clinton were running. They're trying to make us think, as op stated, that Democrats will suddenly turn Republican and vote for MORE WAR and MORE cuts for the rich just because their choice for nominee doesn't win. Some will be that shallow and self-centered, but most will not. Most Americans are just plain sick and tired of everything and anything Republican, and would vote for a ham sandwich if it was a Democrat.

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[Jackpine Radical]

4. ...in an honest fight, sure.

But then we would have won every election since 2000 if they were honest fights. There is the combined problem of voter suppression, media bias, and outright theft to contend with. I'm afraid the voters could watch Obama crush McCain in a debate and then end up thinking McCain had won because all the talking heads said so because Obama sighed or blinked or something.

[treestar]

5. Exactly! Thank you! I am tired of seeing those posts in the GD

entitled something along with lines of "We cannot beat McCain."

If McBush is the best the repukes can do now, they are in bad shape.

[dkf]

6. I am really not worried about McCain. His comments on his lack of knowledge on the

economy will do him in. If he is as confused about the Sunni vs. Shiite thing as he appeared to be, how can he grasp our economic problems, which is more complicated to understand than the fact that Sunnis and Shiites don't get along.

John McCain barely made it through the Naval Academy. He is a honest decent man. But does he have the smarts for the job? I'm wondering about that.

[BzaDem]

7. Similar arguments were made about Bush in 04 and 00.

That's why we lose. This is going to be a hard fight.

[flowomo]

9. you got that right....

and it goes much further back than '00 and '04 and isn't limited to one party's overconfidence. The same was said in '88 about GHWB -- and Truman in 1948. Regan was a "joke" candidate at first. Nixon was dead and buried in '62. Never assume you can't lose -- it's exactly that mindset that caused Bob Shrum to steer the Kerry candidacy off the cliff.

[onehandle]

8. The coot factor is his greatest weakness.

Everybody loves Grandpa, but nobody wants him as the face of 'merica.

[ProSense]

10. Let me see:

Obama can't win has double-digit recs, McCain can't win has 1.

Wow!

twenty thoughts about John McCain

Democrats, including Hillary and Bill, who continue to canonize McCain should be ashamed!