Question about Let It Sink

[Debi]

When someone posts 'Let it Sink' in a thread is that a signal to not respond any further to that thread?

If so, why do people respond to the 'Let it Sink' post?

Just wondering.

[Jackpine Radical]

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[Sulawesi]

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[Debi]

13. ?

[backscatter712]

2. It's a way of saying "Please do not feed the trolls."

Quite frankly, a lot of the people in here stirring the shit are freepers trying to get us at each other's throats.

Arguing with them on this forum is pretty pointless, so a better tactic is to deprive them of an audience by letting their threads sink and using the *plonk* (also known as the ignore button.)

[sniffa]

4. And starting at midnight this place is going to get a lot saner

supposedly.

[K Gardner]

8. Gads, one can hope they'll follow through on their promise.. we'll see.

[Debi]

15. Historical precedence aside

maybe this time they'll be able to follow through. :P

[Debi]

14. Won't that be nice?! n/t

[JVS]

46. Eastern time? The fucking sky is going to open up and heavenly choirs will sing when they leave!

[PoliticalAmazon]

55. Why did they announce it ahead of time? Bad strategy...

Never reveal strategy and plans to opponents.

[Debi]

6. My post was tongue in cheek

I was wonder why - after the signal was given - posters were responding to the signal post :crazy: (bumping the very post they're supposed to let sink)

[The Night Owl]

11. The problem with having users tagging threads with Let It Sink is that...

...perfectly legitimate threads get tagged along with those which really don't belong here.

[sniffa]

20. It's a wonderful way to muzzle free speech

Mwa ha ha ha ha

[The Night Owl]

21. I don't consider LIS to be a muzzle on speech. It is more of a taunt... and a silly one at that.

[sniffa]

25. Well, at least it moved from "dumb" to "silly"

Got that going for us drones.

[Debi]

35. Now hold on...you're a drone? I thought you were an adulator....

or are we all bi-drone/adulators???? :banghead:

[JVS]

47. Obama supporters have a perfectly legitimate right to not participate in your...

so-called legitimate threads. Whether that non-participation is individual or collective is immaterial. You are entitled to your opinion, we are entitled to our opinions and also the right not to express them when we see no point.

[The Night Owl]

51. If Obama supporters wish to decide on which threads they should participate in, then they should...

...make that determination through PMs and stop junking up threads with idiotic chants.

Anyone can see LIS for what it really is... a way to get around the rule which prohibits us from calling each other Freepers.

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. Posting "let it sink" is counter productive.

[redqueen]

22. It's kicking something that you're supposed to be ignoring...

:wtf:

[The Night Owl]

26. Make sure that every time you see LIS to thank the poster of it for the kick.

:evilgrin:

[K Gardner]

7. Don't know, Debi.. have seen that more than once on threads that

were obvious flamebait and all I can say is we can encourage civility but not, perhaps, expect it :-)

Free country and all that. I wonder if this place isn't just beyond hope right now. Maybe stay in the GD or Candidate Forum, because GD:P is absolutely infested.

[The Night Owl]

9. What LIS is really about...

A certain element within the Obama camp here at DU has decided that it knows better than the mods how to police DU. This element has decided that it should get to decide which threads don't belong on DU.

The funny thing is that the drones who post LIS tag so eager for adulation from their fellow drones that they are inadvertantly kicking threads as they trip over each other to be the first in a thread to post the LIS tag.

[sniffa]

23. This is quite upsetting for you

:hug:

[Debi]

27. Wait.....am I a drone?

[sniffa]

30. Obviously. And a DUM one at that

*high five*

[Debi]

33. Heh

Need to get t-shirt made! :yourock:

[The Night Owl]

37. No, you are not a drone. A drone does not ask questions. It simply lets things sink.

[Debi]

38. !

:rofl:

[JackORoses]

40. we should probably let all Owlies threads sink just to prove a point

He wouldn't be so pissed if it wasn't working.

[JoFerret]

39. Very amusing. And of course LIS = KIK for others

KIK = keep it kicked.

All wonderfully infantile.

[Breeze54]

10. What do you think it means, Debi?

:shrug:

[Melinda]

12. Hey! My shrink posts on DU!!

:rofl:

[Debi]

17. My Mother is your shrink?

:crazy:

[Melinda]

32. Your mom? Damn, moms rock, and your mom rocks best!!

She cured me, I tell ya, cured!!

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:


(Or, I feel fine today, and that's all that matters... I can get through today, and not worry about tomorrow, right? Oh noes... tomorrow is almost here!! It's just a few hours from now **shallow breaths** what shall I do? Must call shrink, must call... oh noes!! My shrink is a mom!!) :hi:

[Debi]

36. Thank you for that!

:rofl:

Mom/shrink says if everybody else jumped off a cliff would you follow???? She's so dramatic!

[Hepburn]

16. It's a free country and people can make their own decision about posting?

One person's opinion that a thread is worthless and it should sink is not binding on other people, right?

[Debi]

18. Oh Geez

x(

[RaleighNCDUer]

29. Of course it's not binding.

But what a LIS post can do is make other posters hesitate before valiantly leaping to the defense of their candidate/position/cat and ask themselves "was the thread/post really intended to generate discussion, or just to rile people up?" After a moment of hesitation, the answer they come up with is usually "just to rile people up", then they let it sink and the thread dies a well deserved death in obscurity.

The point is, by this point the only way to convince someone is by taking the high road. If you wrestle with pigs, all you get is a mud bath.

[JVS]

56. So it makes it harder to bait people. How tragic.

[stillcool]

19. Some of us need to be reminded...

to stay out of the gutter. What purpose does it serve to argue with those whose only purpose is to inflame?

[Debi]

24. I agree

so why respond after reading the words 'Let it Sink'? You're only kicking the thread :crazy:

[stillcool]

41. It is not an inflammatory thread...

unless I missed something. Are you trying to denigrate a life or a race? Are you judging a person's worth by words excerpted from one sermon out of over thirty years of sermons? Are you attempting to bring down a candidate you do not approve with guilt by association?

[Debi]

42. Are you responding to the correct thread? n/t

[stillcool]

43. I was responding to this...

so why respond after reading the words 'Let it Sink'? You're only kicking the thread

[Debi]

44. NOT the words in THIS thread - the words when typed in OTHER threads

OMG.

[DemGa]

28. It's a signal that only attack Hillary threads should get responses

Passive aggressive -- like Barack Obama.

[40ozDonkey]

31. Hill supporters can respond all day long.

Unless... there aren't enough Hillary supporters anymore?

I know, I know, Democracy's tough.

[DemGa]

34. I've pretty much given up on this place myself

Though I haven't completely broken the habit.

The personal attacks, the viciousness from the Obamas -- a very negative experience anymore.

[GoldieAZ49]

45. I thought Let it Sink meant the O supporters were going down with the O ship

[TwilightGardener]

48. It's just a strategy to keep the pointless flamebait, especially ugly race-baiting

and sexist crap, from taking over the forum. Consider it a system of quality control. People can do whatever they want, and start whatever threads they want, but sometimes it's wise to consider whether you're not just beating a dead horse or giving someone else an excuse to keep inflicting RW-style injury onto our candidates by responding.

[The Night Owl]

49. I have confidence in the moderators and...

I have confidence in the moderators and their ability to determine what posts are flamebait. I just wish you and the other people in the LIS crowd would have confidence in the moderators.

[TwilightGardener]

50. It has nothing to do with the moderators. It's a mostly free-speech, free-idea

forum, and they aren't going to shut down threads unless it's really offensive. But there are people here with an agenda--they are not here to simply share their opinions, they are here to stir the shit--you can tell when they just repeat their talking points, over and over, throwing buzzwords into unrelated threads, without engaging in reasoned discourse. I think it's good to step back and realize that sometimes we're being played.

[The Night Owl]

52. So, really what you're saying is that LIS is a way for Obama supporters to get around...

So, really what you're saying is that LIS is a way for Obama supporters to get around the DU rule which prohibits DUers from calling each other Freepers.

[TwilightGardener]

53. Wow, you're reading a little too much into this. It's just a way to remind

each member of the forum, no matter who they support, to decide whether or not a thread is worthy of being kept alive, whether or not a comment is worth responding to. We all have an individual responsibility here to make this a quality place. We have a responsibility to not allow the same smears that are being run on Free Republic and Fox and Hannity to consume us (I'm specifically offended by the Wright thing--it's racial in nature and highly destuctive, divisive, damaging, and pointless to keep rehashing it, but everyone else can make up their own minds about it). The one surefire way to keep this place balanced is to not feed into something damaging to your candidate, or your cause, or whatever. You can vote with your "reply" button, same as folks on Kos can rate the comments. I also think media outlets do lurk on internet message boards like this, because it's sort of the national water-cooler, and very easy and free to access--if all the blogs are erupting and obsessing over something, news outlets start picking up on it, assuming it's probably good for ratings. Sometimes it's good to be reminded of our power, and to use it wisely.

[JVS]

57. It's the anti-K&R

[Blue_In_AK]

54. Maybe because they don't agree that the thread should sink.

Nobody is boss here ... except Skinner and the other administrators.

[Swamp Rat]

58. Yay sniffa!

:D

[Blue-Jay]

59. The whole idea is stupid.

This is a message board. If you feel like talking about something, do it. If you don't, don't.

[rucky]

60. You can't expect us to all wise-up at once?

We just figured out how to sink a thread - after how many years? We may have our technique down by the time they pick a nominee.