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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:45 AM
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The Reverend Wright controversy is not going away...
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 11:48 AM by kentuck
until Obama addresses it more adequately. The right-wing and the media will not turn it loose. The "historic" speech should have quelled the uproar, but we will not know for sure until after the PA and NC primaries. By then, it may be too late.

In my opinion, Barack Obama needs to directly challenge his detractors. What exactly are they charging him with? Are they saying that he agreed with the words of the Reverend? Are they saying he is a racist? Are they saying he should have gotten up and walked out when those words were said? Are they calling the other 8000 congregants "racists" also, because they did not walk out? But they were not running for President. they say? Neither was Obama at that time. What exactly is Obama guilty of doing or not doing?

Obama needs to flush out the charges more fully before he can respond properly to them. To simply say his Reverend said some nasty things about our country and white people is not enough to condemn Barack Obama. Unless, of course, you believe there is guilt by association, and Barack Obama is a racist? He needs to ask his detractors, what is your major complaint against me? If they cannot answer, they are only tools of the right-wing media machine.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:47 AM
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1. Maybe the m$m needs to focus on what's important. Obama has
addressed this numerous times. I think it's getting old. The more he brings it up, the more the m$m will. Vicious circle.
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:48 AM
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3. agreed.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:49 AM
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4. If it's what people are talking about, they'll continue to focus on it
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:50 AM
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6. It would be naive to think that the Repubs...
will not run it over and over in the general election.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:52 AM
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7. So let Obama change the dialogue to the economy, or the illegal
occupation. He's tried, but neither of those problems are going away either, and McCain falls short in both areas.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:53 AM
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8. He can't change people's fear of a hiphop presidency; not going away
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:55 AM
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11. Fears of a hip hop presidency? What does that even mean? I see
Obama must really frighten you. :eyes:
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:58 AM
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19. Not me, but he's not who he wants you to think he is
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:01 PM
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23. Link? nt
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:03 PM
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27. oh please enlighten us as to who he really is
splat......hmm the sound my shit makes when it hits the bowl.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:56 AM
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14. Define that term for us, won't you?
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:59 AM
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20. It's something like the ineluctable modality of the visible
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:01 PM
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22. An unreadable book for most people
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:47 AM
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2. They're saying he's acting one way for white voters and another at home
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:49 AM
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5. Your last sentence says it all
They are already tools of the RW media machine, and do not want to change.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:54 AM
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9. people aren't going to buy from their advertisers if MSM carries on being racist
this is the only thing they think they can nail Obama with and it's not working judging by Obama's poll results.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:54 AM
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10. IMO the Wright affair has cost BO enough independent votes to lose the election. Everything he says
in way of explanation sounds false when contrasted with twenty years attendance at TUCC, his marriage there, his children's baptism there, his donations there, and his choice of Wright's phrase "Audacity Of Hope" for his book.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:29 PM
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36. BINGO, and wait till they start getting into James Cone, Wrights inspiration...
White = satan? seriously?


Plus, IF McCain takes Lieberman as Veep, Obama is dead.
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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:55 AM
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12. Can the corporate media keep the story going for seven-and-a-half MORE months?
Probably.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:55 AM
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13. Time for a video clip of Granny
Send a film crew to Hawaii, do a brief, charming interview, have her talk about all the fears she had about her daughter marrying and having a child with a black man, how much joy has come out of it through Barack, and be as done with this stupidity as we can be, understanding that the media will always opt for the scary-black-man angle anyway, whenever it has the slightest excuse.

Then he can say (without saying a word), see, I'm half white and my white grandmother can handle me acknowledging her common problem of pre-judging people and we can still love each other. Now STFU.

I know you hate that kind of shit, Barack, but it needs to be done.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:57 AM
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15. Once he is the nominee he can attack this issue with full force
Any mention or focus on it now - by speech, press conference, meeting, etc. - will be used by Penn, et al, to try to sink him in the remaining primaries.

It is settling now, except for the RW rags and "win by any means necessary" Clinton supporters.

Once he is the nominee he can take on the RW and MSM head-on and bury it.

Now is too dangerous - he has FIERCE enemies - DEM and GOP.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:57 AM
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16. They were not Wright's words so people need to stop pushing the media's distortion.
Even though I understand what the words meant and agree with them, Wright was quoting a former U.S. ambassador.

What purpose does it serve for Democrats who know the truth to continue playing the media's game?


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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:57 AM
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17. Still talking in circles?
What did Obama do wrong? Speak it out.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:13 PM
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33. Think of it this way. If the police enter a room where a group of
people are planning a bank robbery and you are there, maybe just to bring chips and beer, you will also be busted. That's the way it goes.

Having said that, it's hard to imagine a scenario where Obama's mind was not engaged during 20 years of listening to Wright's philosophy (unless he went to church for naps.)

He took his children there. They have ratings for movies unsuitable for children. I doubt he would take his kids to one of them.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:58 AM
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18. IMO, that is not Obama's job at this juncture. That is a task for his surrogates.
He's made his statement and needs to move on. It is up to his surrogates and supporters to confront this issue. He cannot get wrapped up in this right-wing promoted faux controversy. He needs to be talking about a return to Constitutional government, the economy, the war on Iraq and how we will get out of it, health care, the environment... basically HIS AGENDA. THAT is what the people want to hear.

For example, there was a particularly nasty AP hit piece in the early edition of my local paper. My entire graduate cohort wrote letters to the editor of the paper including phone calls to the editorial and news desk departments. By the morning run, I noticed the hit piece was gone. When we see injustice being done, we need to take the initiative sometimes to confront it ourselves.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:00 PM
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21. You are so Igged now. nt
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:02 PM
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24. I don't know, can you *fix* pervasive distrust? I don't think so.....nt
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:04 PM
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28. Exactly Hillary's problem - Thank you for pointing that out. nt
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Rob Gregory Browne Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:03 PM
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25. With all due respect...
...I can't see how Obama could possibly address the matter more adequately and eloquently than he already has. If it didn't work for some, it probably never will. And once the general comes around, those who still "blame" him for Wright (at least enough not to vote for him), will mostly likely be those who would never have voted for him anyway.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:06 PM
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30. Agreed! And welcome to DU, Rob Gregory Browne. nt
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:17 PM
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34. You are so nice to people with
low post counts. I wonder what you would have said if he spoke against Obama.
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Rob Gregory Browne Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:28 PM
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35. Call me crazy, but I try to be nice to everyone.
I don't look at post counts. I respond to the posts as I see fit.

And for the record, I have nothing against those who support Clinton except that we disagree on who is the better candidate. Obama and Clinton both have their plus and minuses, but in the end -- since their policy stances are so similar -- I think Obama's ability to communicate, his charisma, his eloquence and charm, and his willingness to speak about complex, normally taboo, issues are what we need to help bring us together and help rehabilitate this country around the world.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:32 PM
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37. I only welcome new people to DU because they have low
post counts, thus 'new'. And I've been doing it since I've been here and was encouraged by newyawker99. You have a problem with that, too?
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:03 PM
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26. Maybe we should counter with
bringing up McCrazy's pastor who blamed Katrina on the gays, etc? I wish the media would at least show the entire clip of Rev. Wright saying that he heard a white politician (whose name just escaped me) say what has been shown over and over and that it did not originate from the good pastor. What a lie to perpetuate that the Rev. said that!
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:05 PM
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29. I think he's said enough and needs to move back to issues.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:09 PM
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31. Funny thing is,
the only place I read about it any more is here. Of course, I do not watch TV news or read right-wing internet sources or listen to Limpdick and Cuntler on the radio.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:10 PM
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32. MSM likes the drama. n/t
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:35 PM
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38. Obama said as much himself on Countdown two Fridays ago.
:shrug:

The rabid RW is going to attack our candidate?? Wow!! What a revelation!!

:eyes:

NGU.


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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:37 PM
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39. As long as the GOP has the HC democrats shilling for them, it won't go away soon,
but it'll go away. Why? Because there are only so many of each, and the rest of the country is ready to move on. What does a democrat get out of being the mouthpiece for the rightwing?
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:40 PM
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40. What Obama needs to do is win delegates.
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