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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:41 PM
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Poll question: Is Hillary Clinton a willful Liar?
She has a track record of 'exaggeration' and 'misspeaking'.

The Bosnian Sniper Attack is a prime example of this.

Does she even care if the voters base their decisions on the Truth? This is questionable.

Is she intentionally lying to the American People?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:42 PM
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1. Willful? Or preternaturally pathological?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:40 PM
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37. blind ambitions. makes ends justify the means.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:43 PM
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2. Like Bush, she lies when she doesn't need to or when the truth would serve her better
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:44 PM
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3. Its really quite ashame
that she has human failings and weaknesses unlike the perfect candidate Obama. If I'm wrong some folks are really gonna have their hearts broken. Maybe now, maybe later.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:48 PM
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6. This doesn't have anything to do with being "perfect"
Don't be disingenuous like the one you are standing up for. She LIED. She lied, and it was easily refutable. She really does think we are all stupid. Let's elect another LIAR, because the current one is doing so well....
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:53 PM
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12. General Clark has been disingenuous??
I know, I know, Obama has never ever or never will tell a lie or has done or will ever do anything that might offend an American. The naivete of Obama supporters is quite the sight to behold. Gosh what was that I did not know about Wrights comments, but I did know about his comments.

And while I have you on the line, If Obama is such the uniter why did he remain in Wright's church for 20 years? Just asking! I know you think he's perfect so no doubt you'll have a plausible explanation.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:02 PM
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17. Hillary said she was dodging sniper fire in Bosnia
She lied, and on a grand stage at that. Makes you wonder what she lies about behind closed doors. What church does Obama need to attend to unite everybody? Nobody is perfect, but some feel the need to lie feely and openly, like your gal. I never included Clark in my statement, but if he agrees with her lie, than he'd be a liar as well. Be sure to let us all know what church is acceptable for Obama to attend, in the eyes of BOSSHOG.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:06 PM
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21. My Gal?
That would be my wife. She'll be home from work at 4:00. General Clark is my candidate. You were casting disparaging remarks about my candidate. You are saying Clinton is my Gal. In other words you are a liar. I don't go to Church. One does not have to go to Church to be a good citizen. But one might join one for political cover.

Obama is a liar, he is a politician. Obama supporters are naive.

Please put me on ignore. ALL IN THE NAME OF UNITY!!

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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:12 PM
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23. Wow, you still haven't answered the question of
Is Hillary a liar? I said nothing about Gen. Clark. I rather like him, except for his poor judgment regarding which Presidential candidate to back. I suspect Clark would be used in an Obama administration, if he cared to be. Call me naive and all Obama supporters naive if you must, I will not resort to calling you anything. I am not ignoring you either, you are great entertainment!
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:20 PM
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26. making up a non-existant sniper attack is a little more than a 'human failing'
Don't you agree?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:45 PM
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4. It's frightening, She had to have known how easy it would be for
this particular lie to be discovered. Same thing with NAFTA.

That she would boldly lie anyway is just downright...frightening. Can you imagine how she would treat us as President? :scared:

What else is she lying about? Why did she really approve of *'s war?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:43 PM
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39. If you tell yourself something long enough, you start to believe it
It's a disturbing fact but no less true for that.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:48 PM
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5. Its is as if she is running a 1992 campaign and the interwebs haven't been
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 01:49 PM by Yael
invented yet...
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:50 PM
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7. Let it sink people, just let it sink -- let's stay classy
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 01:51 PM by DemGa
:rofl:
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:52 PM
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9. Is it not classy to tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:50 PM
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8. I'm guessing this poll is telling the tale of how DU'ers feel about Hillary anyway! n/t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:53 PM
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10. Senator Clinton has been untruthful on many topics
Sen Clinton has been misleading voters about her stance on social security. How many Dems would abandon that ship if they knew that she was leading the dlc's plan to privatize social security--which coincidently is the same plan that bush* and the republicans were pushing? I think if Dems knew the truth about her policy goals she would be polling in the teens.

http://www.ppionline.org/ndol/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=85&subid=108&contentid=253475
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253993&kaid=86&subid=194
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:53 PM
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11. She's No More Of A Liar Than St.Obama Is...
And if you don't think that's true, then you're likely as naive as they come.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:04 PM
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20. Oh bullshit! You need to find that mirror you posted. Hypocrisy! n/t
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:11 PM
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22. Don't Cry. Jeez.
And maybe you should read the last line of my post again.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:17 PM
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24. Your denial is astounding! Your circular phony spin is ludicrous! n/t
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:25 PM
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31. ROFLMAO!!!!!
So silly.

:rofl:
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:53 PM
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13. Are slanders willful sinners?
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:54 PM
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14. I'm having a BAD acid flashback.
No, wait, it isn't an LSD flashback -- it's an Election 2000 flashback!

Complete with "Al Gore is a serial prevaricator" recycled into "Hillary is a compulsive liar".

With no more evidence, either.

When does Ralph show up to punish us?

--p!
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:00 PM
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15. She lies as much as the average politician. As does Obama. n/t
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:01 PM
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16. “Everybody in politics lies, but [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it’s troubling.” -DG n/t
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:03 PM
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18. Considering yesterdays DU vote shows 90+% here is pro Obama this is not a fair question. Also,GObama
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:03 PM
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19. Willful, inept speaking, inability to grasp reality; who cares because no matter tha answer
it is proof that she shouldn't be Commander in Chief or President.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:19 PM
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25. This is exactly the same kind of thread
I would've seen on FreeRepublic in 2000 about Al Gore.

He LIED about the internet! He LIED about being the subject of "Love Story". The guy just couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it!

The Clinton haters here are every bit as bad as Freepers.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:22 PM
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29. The difference is that Al Gore wasn't lying. I love Al Gore.
Hillary is lying about Sniper fire and so much more.

Please, do explain the Bosnian 'threat'. I dare you.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:24 PM
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30. Nope
there's no difference. Take every utterance, skew it, look at it in the worst possible light, magnify its importance, ignore any and all other information, and just call it a lie.

They did it to Bill Clinton, they did it to Gore, they did it to Kerry. And most of DU is now doing it to Hillary Clinton. It's very sad to see Freeper tactics become the norm here.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:28 PM
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33. you avoid discussion of Snipers, I notice.
can you not face up to the fact that the story Hillary told was almost wholly a fabrication?
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:21 PM
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27. She even continued to lie for years that whe was named for Sir Edmund.
Or maybe pointing out that Sir Edmund scaling Mt Everest was another vast sexist, right wing conspiracy.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:22 PM
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28. Not just willful - a REPEATED willful liar.
n/t.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:26 PM
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32. Habitual...
sure makes me wonder what is really behind that curtain.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:28 PM
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34. Not any more than Obama - Rezko
comes to mind.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:24 PM
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35. There is such a thing as campaign-related exaggeration n/t
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:46 PM
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36. wow 100+ Obama supporters here respond to your insulting poll
really means a lot, considering no reasonable Clinton supporter would even bother to weigh in . . . moving on . . . without voting
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:42 PM
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38. This place really is far left! It doesn't represent the real world (sarcasm)
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 04:42 PM by Catherina
This poll was taken before TuzlaGate



:rofl:
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:44 PM
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40. A little *Kickety-kick* for truth.
:kick:
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:54 PM
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41. I would have said no, and defended her in the begining of this election season.
By the end of it, I am so sad and disappointed to have to vote yes.
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:11 PM
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42. first.
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