I am and Always Have been a Strong Supporter of Barack Obama

[MadBadger]

(except for that day I supported Edwards lol)

But that doesnt matter to some here. I criticized some Obama supporters here for what I see as arrogance and what is the response by some? To call me a clown and put me on ignore. They view me as a Clinton troll because I spoke out against some Obama people and used the word "fuck." I have started threads declaring Hillary Clinton a liar numerous times, including one calling her a "fucking liar...ooo there's that dirty word again. And yet I criticize Obama supporters once and I'm declared a clown and put on ignore.

You know, I hate to agree with the Clinton counterparts who I cant stand, but some of this is McCarthyism. A name was listed that was very similar to mine on a thread about Capital Hill. The name was hmmf. My name is Hnmnf. Yes, that was me. I joined out of my interest of that site and nothing else. I didnt post, and was soon deleted anyway after being discovered on DU. But the link to McCarthy is that I have been named something that I am not because I appear on some crack pot list. Many hear dont bother to look into my post history or the fact that I have been a strong Obama supporter for months now, they simply see the name and the post and hit ignore.

Finally my avatar. I have explained this before but I'll explain it again. I've been told by many that I think Obama is my Messiah, so I'm embracing it because us Obama supporters are brainwashed after all.

Here's my thread btw.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5236289&mesg_id=5236289

[Tom Rinaldo]

1. Feelings are obviously running strong here, there is so much evidence of that

including this that you talk about with your OP. But I have seen you continually defend Barack Obama and quite a few times be highly critical of Hillary Clinton. Yet you always attempt to remain open minded. Still you have taken your share of abuse from Clinton supporters on this board. I'm sorry that some of the same is now hitting you from some Obama supporters also as a result of your efforts to remain fair and open minded. It is simply evidence of how our emotions are moving faster than our thoughts too much of the time at GD-P.

But there are people on both sides who are trying to conduct a reasonable debate without backing away from their own strong support for the candidate of their choice. You are one of them and I salute you for that.

[Yes We Did]

2. K&R

But there was a member with almost the same name as you. They are gone now, but they had almost the same name.

That's who I thought you were.

I do know that YOU are an Obama supporter, as do the vast majority of us.

I think that any of us who have had the courage to admit the imperfections in our own candidate have felt the wrath though. Apparently we are all willing to eat our own at the first appearance of dissent.

It's sad, and I feel embarrassed for making that mistake. I offer you my sincerest apology for the mix up.

[democrattotheend]

3. I've been called a traitor too

When all I am trying to do is prevent the Clinton supporters from getting so pissed off that they stay home in November or start hating Obama when they would have otherwise been happy to vote and even volunteer for him.

[rinsd]

4. Notice the sign up dates of your critics. Trolls have infested both sides.

[bicentennial_baby]

5. Hey

:pals:

[grantcart]

6. the prolonged tension of the race is having an impact on people's temper and judgement

Prolonging this to August or roughly another 150 days will be very destructive to the party (Remember NH was only 80 some days ago)

You have been on the front line from the begining and I read everything of yours I can.

Thanks

[Tom Rinaldo]

10. I both hope and think that it will be settled in June at the latest

When the votes are all cast I fully expect all the powers to be, obviously including the candidates themselves, Party leaders, and the super delegates, to resolve this one way or another. It won't drag on to the convention, I honestly believe that.

[grantcart]

38. You may be right - but I think real fatigue will set in

It may already have with Clinton's fund raising. The number 1 reason campaign's are stopped is because of money.

[jgraz]

7. In fairness "shut the fuck up" is not the usual opener to civil discourse

If you start out flaming, don't be surprised when you get flamed in return.

Personally, I disagree with your assessment, but I wasn't even going to touch that thread given the inflammatory language.

[MadBadger]

11. I can take the flaming. I've got no problem with that

But for what I said, I saw no reason to be put on ignore.

[jgraz]

17. There are so many pro-Hillary flamebots crawling out of the woodwork

some people hit ignore and ask questions later. Hard to blame them, really.

[Yes We Did]

21. What's really funny is the list itself.

Aside from the OP, the rest of the are huge Hillary supporters, and most of which have disappeared from here for a week or so... until today.

Which, of course, is exactly what all three threads said.

Funny, isn't it?

[sandnsea]

33. Well you used the word yourself

So what the hell is this shit to start a post and complain about others using "fuck" as if it were some assault to your sensibilities.

[book_worm]

8. Part of it is were tired of being lectured to as if we are the cause of all the friction

It takes two and every day I see lots of terrible attacks on Obama by some, I stress, some Clinton supporters. If you stroll down you'll see what I mean. Your credentials as a Obama supporter don't need any reinforcement from me--you've been a strong one.

[rodeodance]

48. " Part of it is were tired of being lectured to"---bet HRC get lectured to 9:1

[ClassWarrior]

9. Aren't you a member of the Clinton Bullies Site?

http://z9.invisionfree.com/Clinton_Supporters/index.php?&act=Members&photoonly=&name=&name_box=all&max_results=50&filter=ALL&sort_order=asc&sort_key=name&st=100

NGU.

[Tom Rinaldo]

12. Did you even read the OP? n/t

[SaveOurDemocracy]

36. Read? READ?? Better lower your expectations, Tom. n/t

[MadBadger]

14. I registered this morning as hmmf, so I could see what they were saying

I can no longer log on there. I posted here that I thought one part of the board was a hate forum on DU and Obama people.

[Yes We Did]

18. It's called an undercover agent....

He's an Obama supporter. Read up on his history. Trust me. He has posted thread after thread supporting Obama.

Now, that list... you will notice at least 3 of those people on it back today. Isn't that funny.

[rinsd]

22. "Isn't that funny."

As funny as a 20 day poster nearing 1000 posts who's up on DU internal politics.

[Yes We Did]

25. I work from home. I have all day to read up.

[rinsd]

28. self delete

[Yes We Did]

31. Inner politics? are you kidding me?

Anyone who spends a couple days on here can see who is on who's side.

And... just because I only registered in the past month doesn't mean I haven't been here longer than that.

I've been here long enough to know that you aren't supposed to call out people for stuff like that.

[rinsd]

20. "are you or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party"

Putting aside that you have the wrong information, the McCarthyism is scary.

[KAZ]

13. Tensions are high, and people are getting exhausted.

I saw the earlier threads with your CH name on them, and I wanted to point out that you shouldn't be included on this "list" since you were only checking that site out. I wanted to post that, but I didn't, since I didn't want to kick a thread I knew would be locked.

Take heart hnmnf!

[MadBadger]

15. Its funny that the name i registered as is hmmf, notice the missing n.

[KAZ]

26. Yes, I noticed that, but I read your thread from a couple of days..

..ago, so I knew it was you, and that some people would misinterpret on these "list" threads. The whole list thing was silly to begin with. If folks have problems with members, they should take it to the Mods.

Always look forward to your posts hnmnf!

[Drachasor]

16. I salute you sir!

You're a good chap. Even if I don't agree with you on some issues.*

-Drachasor, fellow Obama supporter

*For instance, I think the only way for Hillary to get the most popular vote is for Obama's campaign to implode, at which point he'd have to withdraw. Ergo, there's no reason for Hillary to be in the running at the moment, since the "most popular vote" at that point would not be necessary.

[KittyWampus]

19. You need to look up the word "presumptive" in the dictionary. Here- I'll help you

1 : based on probability or presumption <the presumptive nominee>
2 : giving grounds for reasonable opinion or belief

[Straight Shooter]

23. I got slammed for giving Obama a compliment!

Someone took a look at my avatar and totally misread my post. I was complimenting him on reconciling with Faux News and getting them to admit to their over-the-top bashing.

Your avatar, I just figured you were a Christian. :shrug:

[rodeodance]

49. This poster slammed cause I told him he has a good post (the last one of his)

[Straight Shooter]

53. Maybe we should rename this forum General Discussion Slamming?

:hi:

[rodeodance]

56. that would be too kind

[rucky]

24. STFU isn't the best conversation starter.

I didn't even open that thread, but just saying.

[MadBadger]

27. should I add a could you before the STFU?

[rucky]

30. That would be F-ing polite.

:thumbsup:

[DemGa]

29. They're like killer bees swarming with vicious personal attacks

You've just got a taste of the side you're on. Not the first site ruined by Obama supporters.

[xultar]

32. Got a little taste of the Obama Supprter treatment. How'd you like it?

HRC supporters are out numbered almost 4 to one. They get that shit day in and day out for simply posting news articles that are critical of Obama. (yes, some get out of hand) but even if they all get out of hand they can't match the number of out of hand Obama supporters. They are out numbered 4 to 1.

Finally an Obama supporter experience it. I never thought I'd see the day.

[Yes We Did]

34. You're kidding right?

"Finally an Obama supporter experience it. I never thought I'd see the day."

He's not the first, and he won't be the last. I would venture to say that most of us on here who are willing to admit their candidate has flaws has been vilified by our candidates supporters.

That goes for both sides.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

35. It's the company you're keeping ...

Feels good to be misrepresented and attacked by other Dems, doesn't it?


And, just let me take the opportunity to say how pleased and proud I was to see I made ONE of the O-Team 'mass ignore lists'

Thank you, thank you very much... :smoke:

[MadBadger]

37. Oh bug off.

I decided not to use that other word that would have gotten the post deleted and make people cry.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

39. I haven't been the one crying...

:spray:

I've enjoyed seeing you people 'out' yourselves, in oh so many ways.

[MadBadger]

40. The only person I've seen crying this primary season is Hillary Clinton.

[BooScout]

41. Hopefully this will teach Obama Supporters a lesson....

Blacklists are bad.

I started a post earlier today asking why the need for mass ignore lists to be passed around... and it was locked because it came from somewhere else. regardless of where it came from it was a list about posters here and it was being passed around here.

The ignore feature here can be a handydandy tool to keep tempers under control, but each person who choses that tool should chose themselves who they want to be on that list.....not take the word of some anonymous person on the internet.

Learn to think and judge for yourselves rather than have others tell you what is best.

[LostinVA]

42. Go back to your Hillary Hate Site, Shrillbot

:rofl:

[SaveOurDemocracy]

45. Oh myyyyy ...

:spray: :spank:

[LostinVA]

47. This whole thing has given me the giggles this afternoon and evening

[SaveOurDemocracy]

54. I know ... I could hear you over here !!

(me too! LOLLLLLLLLL...) :rofl: :rofl:

[Catherine Vincent]

43. I've always said some of you Obama supporters are fucked up. nt

[Clintonista2]

44. Some?

I would ballpark it at maybe 98%

[SaveOurDemocracy]

46. Well, that's 'SOME'

:rofl:

[Zynx]

51. I think it's about 25% on the board, only 5-7% in the real world.

Same goes for Clinton supporters.

[Zynx]

50. You're a good, fair person. I've criticized Clinton supporters for supporting racism

in voting and was called an Obama troll once, even though I'm not and I am/was a lukewarm supporter of Clinton at best. I like Obama and Clinton for the most part and I equally criticize both sides when they overstep and get blasted by both for it. Both sides have a vocal minority that engage in group think and like to categorize everyone on the other side in a single, monolithic label. It sucks and it's unfair.

[thevoiceofreason]

52. Stay cool. You have great posts. Don't let the kids get to you.

[rug]

55. It's hysterical how tightly wound many of them are.

[rodeodance]

57. and it SHRILLS----don't eat me.

[golddigger]

58. ATTENTION HMMNF!!11!!11 YOUR COVER HAS BEEN COMPROMISED

Please return to our deep secret Hillary Clinton Underground headquarters for debriefing.

That is all.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

59. hahahahahahahah ...

stop ... you're killin me!! :rofl: :rofl:

[libbygurl]

63. LOL! Roger, over and out! nt

[zabet]

60. We all know you secretly support Hillary but,

want to be in the DU clique so the
'cool kids' won't pick on you.

:rofl:

[okasha]

61. Go ahead and confess if the questioning gets too "intense."

The Department Head has already changed all the codes you know.

[libbygurl]

62. Too funny, this situation you're in.

You reap what you sow.

By the way, your avatar is a blasphemy to the Catholic faith. Equating a mediocre politician with Jesus is downright sacrilegious, offensive, in my view. I wish you'd stop using the picture of the Sacred Heart of Jesus in it.