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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:33 PM
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A pic of some people who were not fans of Hillary's IWR vote


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nico-pitney/a-mosaic-4000-americans_b_93044.html

A Mosaic: 4,000 Americans Dead
In remembrance of the 4,000 brave men and women who sacrificed everything for us -- and the two men who would continue this great tragedy, despite the cost to our soldiers, our military, and our nation.
(Note: Since some photos of fallen U.S. soldiers are unavailable, there are duplicates.)

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:34 PM
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1. This is heartbreaking. How anyone could NOT apologize for this is beyond me.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:36 PM
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4. that's what really gets me.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:35 PM
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2. No Words
:cry:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:35 PM
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3. She needs to apologize!!
How hard can that be?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:38 PM
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5. dear obama hypocrites -he votes to support/fund the murder of iraqis
he is just as complicit in many of these deaths as is hillary clinton. worse, obama uses his bible to justify denying full equality to all americans while ignoring the commandments against killing.

you are just as bad as hillary clinton on the iraq issue

Msongs
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:29 AM
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12. no kidding. all the obama twits who post in outrage on this thread
are fucking pathetic HYPOCRITES.

jonnyblitz
veteran for peace
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:32 AM
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15. He is voting to support the troops
She voted to send them into harm's way.

HUGE difference.

But then I am just an "obama twit" so what do I know? :)
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:39 PM
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6. And this is entirely Hillary's fault and hers alone? It is revolting that
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 05:39 PM by saracat
you use these pictures of the dead to express your hatred of a poltical opponent. I too vehemently disagreed with her vote.I still do, but this is revolting and you are no better than the Bushbots who employ such methods.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:43 PM
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7. She helped make it possible...
and the only reason she did it, was because she thought it would HELP her in a run for Pres. in the future.

Ah, karma!
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:44 PM
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8. I must be missing something.
I see the pics of dead Americans forming a mosaic depicting McCain and Bush, but no pic of Hillary.

Are we looking at the same OP?
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:14 AM
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9. As soon as I saw the smaller picture I started tearing up
Oh man, that is so painful on so many levels. I can't begin to describe them all.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:22 AM
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10. But, she's an experienced poltician who thought the troops in Kuwait were there
to improve their tans, not go to war.

Or, just maybe she's a calculating, ambitious, politician who wanted to grab the flag and wave it like the other senators who voted for the slaughter of Iraqis.
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george_maniakes Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:26 AM
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11. If i was a relative or a friend of someone dead who was made part of that image...
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 10:28 AM by george_maniakes
I would be fucking furious with the person who made that. Using a dead person's image like that, using their death for your own statement, yuck. Why not bury up their bones and make a peace sign with them while your at it. Disgusting.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:30 AM
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14. Like this relative?
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george_maniakes Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:33 AM
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16. If you or he have a relative/friend who thinks they'd want to be part of that, sure. But you think..
all those people wanted to be a part of that? Using dead people like that is gross. Yes the war is gross and the fact that they died because bush fucked up is gross, but you dont make that better by doing this, you just add to the misery.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:47 AM
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17. Don't you think the families would do ANYTHING
to prevent another family from losing a loved one in this war?

I know they would.

I have been to Camp Casey where we put up crosses every time we gather.

A good friend helps organize Arlington West, a memorial display every Sunday on a California beach.

Another friend does a similar display in the Boston area.

I have marched in more cities than I dare to count against this war, and every single one of those marches contained pictures, crosses, or some type of memorial to our fallen troops.

And you know how many families have actually complained about the image or name of their loved one being used to send the message that this war needs to end NOW?? Do you know how many have called using their loved one's name or picture "gross"??

I'll let you guess. Here's a hint - we still use their pictures AND their names every chance we get.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:48 AM
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18. I would be proud. nt
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:29 AM
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13. Rec n/t
:cry:
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:01 AM
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19. The anti-war candidate was soundly rejected
And for those of us who actually oppose the Iraq war, a man who funds that war is not really opposing it. The same man voted for the Patriot Act and the Energy Bill, Cheney's energy bill, and this is an oil war, so spare me the high horse.
John Kerry voted for the IWR. I did not want to nominate him, but the Party did. I voted for him after long struggles with that vote. That bridge was crossed for Kerry, and as a non hypocrite I can not pretend that what is acceptable out of Kerry is worthy of this sort of spewing. Any culpability that Clinton bears for that vote is shared by many other Democrats, including John Edwards, who was the first eager Democratic co-sponsor of the IWR. Only 14 Senators co-sponsored. So please, if you are going to do this sort of bull, this Republican style bull, remember it all applies to tons of Democrats. Kerry and Edwards being top of the list.
And the Republicans? All but one in the Senate voted for it, yet Obama says he wants to work with all of them. Reach out, reach across, make peace. Well. It was the votes of those people supporting their President that made our side powerless to stop it. So how is it exactly that you can place this sort of thing on Hillary's shoulders, while favoring a man who says he will work with the Party that actually did this? A man who put great meaning into the endorsment of John Kerry, who voted for IWR, and for whom I hope we all voted for in 2004.
The if...then is this. If your hyperbolie is taken at face value, I'd have to say then those who funded this crime are also guilty. Remember, this Party was screaming at Congress to cut the funding, for months. Clinton did not, but neither did Obama. They were human ATM's, and that is how it is. They both did all the wrong things. So did Kerry, Edwards, dozens of Democrats and all but a very few Republicans.
So did you vote for Kerry in 2004? Some of Obama's most famous surrogates did not. Many were active for Bush. Did you post this sort of thing about Kerry? Edwards? Did you vote for them? How is this time so different? Really. For me it is business as usual. Compromised, centerist, religion spouting semi-republicans are what we have left. Two war supporting, death funding, Bush enabeling members of the worst Senate of all time. I'll vote for either as I voted for Kerry and Edwards. Niether has any claim to being an active opponent of the Bush war in Iraq or the one against the Constitution in my book. But I use the same book for all Democrats, not a special set of rules for the one I like. And the one I like is long gone, although he was right on everything, he was too short and quirky to get the job as Prom King.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:58 AM
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20. Kerry has made it very clear he regrets his IWR vote
Hillary has not.
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politicallore Donating Member (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:03 PM
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21. I really think obama would have voted for it anyway, just for political reasons at the time
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:04 PM
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22. Somebody needs to do a poster with 4000 commas & Bush's comma speech at the bottom
:(
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:07 PM
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23. Some were fans. Some were not. Some gave not a damn. Did you take a vote?

You are guilty of inappropriate appropriation of other persons' personalities.

For political purposes.

Weak.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:16 PM
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24. What a crock
You are guilty of making ridiculous accusations.
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