"Ignore Lists" are for cowards.

[Bake]

Unfortunately, those to whom this applies probably have me on Ignore already.

But I've been a loyal Democrat and loyal DUer since the beginning, 2001, longer than many of the Obama supporters who have been circulating Master Ignore Lists.

I came here to discuss Democratic politics. Period. Not for anything else. Ignore lists are for wusses who want this forum to be an echo chamber for like-minded (i.e., can't think for themselves) people.

Personally, I think anyone who circulated or perpetuates a "Master Ignore List" deserves the Big Granite Cookie.

If you disagree, put me on your freakin' Ignore List. I'm honored.

Bake

[Catch22Dem]

1. For the most part, I agree, but...

You and I both know there are people here who exist ONLY to disrupt and add nothing whatsoever to the discourse. They're obvious. I have an ignore list of 4, and at last check, 3 of them are tombstoned.

[Double T]

2. Agreed. Super spineless wimps.

[niceypoo]

I used to chat in a Yahoo political chatroom and the republicans ignored everyone who disagreed...

...with them.

Hiding is easier than relying on facts

[LakeSamish706]

3. I don't have an ignore list, and also don't believe in them.... It's very simple...

really, if you don't like what someone posts just ignore it... No need to put them on ignor.... But hey, thats JMHO...

[TahitiNut]

4. Playground sociopaths and drama queens.

:shrug:

[MadBadger]

5. I agree for the most part

However I always have an ignore list of a few to keep me from going completely insane. Though ever week or so I flush out the ignore list and let the trolls roam free again.

[againes654]

6. I cleared my ignore list earlier

but I didn't get it from a "master list". Some that I cleared will probably end up back on there, but they are the idiots that want nothing more than to spew hate, and add nothing productive to the conversation.

I never put any HRC supporters on there just because I don't support HRC. That is stupid, and if people are doing it, they are only hurting themselves.

So here is to open conversation!!! :toast: :hide:

[knixphan]

78. ditto!

[melody]

7. Anti-ignore list people are bullies .. that's equally as fair

They want to fight with everyone. The best way to restore peace to a community is through careful avoidance of conflict with
people who consider disagreement to be an argument and an insult, and who refuse to keep matters civil.

[againes654]

8. I think they are

against "master lists" that have been circulating around. People putting someone on ignore because someone else said so.

[Teaser]

18. that's just something every "web 2.0" application should have

shareable ban lists/ignore lists/troll lists are just the logical extension of peer networks that web 2.0 facilitates.

[Bake]

26. Exactly.

Or to put it differently, master lists being circulated by the Kool-Aid mixer/server, for all the blind followers to obey. I haven't heard of any HRC supporters circulating master lists.

Genuine Obama supporters ought to be ashamed.

Bake

[mkultra]

86. YOUR ALL ON IGNORE

[melody]

56. Oh, that I'm against, too, but that's a very different thing than condemning ALL ignore lists

[yardwork]

87. Is there any evidence that any such master list exists? I haven't seen one.

I doubt it, actually. Why bother?

I think that this whole thing is just a made-up rumor.

[againes654]

90. Actually....

there was a poster a few weeks ago that was offering 12 names to put on ignore that would make DU much easier to deal with. At that time, I was upset with some of the things that I was seeing on DU, so I PM'ed the poster, and I got a list of 12 names in return.

Let me make it VERY clear, I DID NOT USE THE LIST. But there are those that are PMing "lists"

[Dogmudgeon]

19. Seriously -- I don't think conflict avoidance is good whatsoever.

Dialog, respect, skin-thickening, charitability, tolerance-building, reconciliation -- these are the tools that can turn confrontation into a beneficial force.

The problem lately has been an explosion of uncontrolled anxiety and hostility. But over the internet, it's harmless. It also makes it fairly easy to learn new ways of dealing with it. And keep in mind, too, that DU is a small, artifical world that can seem like a pressure cooker.

--p!

[melody]

55. With some people, you cannot dialog -- some people just want to destroy

I learned a long time ago the only way to deal with sociopaths that can be avoided -- avoid them.

[Bake]

24. Restoring peace? Or ignoring differences of belief?

What you call peace is an illusion. But if it works for you, fine.

Bake

[melody]

57. Everything is an illusion. We make our own circumstances

I prefer to pick my battles.

[pscot]

9. Yeah, but

every once in a while you encounter someone who just makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up.For me it has to do with personality rather than issues. I don't have anyone on ignore right now.

[Bake]

27. If it's your personal decision, fine.

If it's a master list being circulated, shame on you (and from your response, I don't think it is). Master lists are for the Kool-Aid cultists, who won't see this post anyway.

Bake

[baldguy]

10. Cowards can't face reality.

So I put'em on ignore.

[olkaz]

11. These ignore lists are helping things get civil again

I dont have one, and nobody ever sent me one of these lists, but honestly the ignore function is a godsend.

Seriously, some people have nothing to add. Those people belong on ignore.

[Yes We Did]

12. I agree... to an extent.

Usually when I put someone on ignore it is to keep myself from getting tomstoned.

I find I lack the self control to not tell someone what I am thinking of them at that moment, and that generally involves exreme profanity.

So, usually if I get to that point I will put someone on ignore until I calm back down.

[Bullet1987]

13. Ignore lists are ways to weed out the troublemakers and childish bullshitters

Sorry if you don't grasp the concept...but everyone here is not here to get into pissing contests. I debate people here everyday and don't put them on ignore. It's not putting someone on ignore you simply disagree with...

[Bake]

28. Do you hear yourself??? Honestly, do you hear yourself??

IGNORE LISTS, for cryin' out loud. At least think for yourself!! If you can't stand me, for something I've said, by all means put me on your personal Ignore list ... I'll wear it as a badge of honor!!

But LISTS BEING CIRCULATED for mass "ignore" purposes?? How is that different from McCarthy's list of un-Americans???

Jesus H. Freakin' Christ on a trailer hitch!!

Bake

[Bullet1987]

34. What the fuck are you talking about? There are no lists being circulated that I know of

Ignore lists are different for everyone that uses them. Someone else's list may be different than mine. If you have a problem with Ignore lists, then I think you need to complain to the mods...not me. I'm using a tool at my disposal. I only have 13 on my list...and about 5 of them have already been tombstoned (banned). So obviously even the mods thought there was a reason for them to leave...so me putting them on ignore was not simply because I didn't agree with them.

You can't force me to listen to someone I don't want to be bothered with. Just as easy as if I were listening to the radio and Rush Limbaugh came on...I would either change the station or turn off the radio because I choose to IGNORE Rush. I don't see why so many people seem to be so defensive about it.

[Bake]

36. I'm talking about the "Master Ignore List" being circulated by Obama supporters!

Are you paying attention? It was posted earlier, before the mods deleted it!! Or maybe you're just not on the "Important Obama Supporters List" (in which case I feel sorry for you). They were circulating a MASTER IGNORE LIST for all their supporters, for cryin' out loud!!!!!

PAY FUCKING ATTENTION!!

Bake

[Bullet1987]

37. This is the first I'm hearing about it...and again...why so defensive?

Did your name pop up on there or something? Get a grip of yourself...

[Bake]

38. Then you're not paying attention here.

I can't help you if you missed it.

Bake

[Mooney]

44. The level of ire that you are expressing is disproportionate to the issue at hand.

In other words, why are you acting like such a raving lunatic? Calm the fuck down.

[Bake]

45. Really? Then let's just "ignore" voters. Like in FL and MI.

We don't "ignore" people in a DEMOCRACY.

Bake

[Mooney]

46. Are you responding to anything that I actually said?

I never mentioned ignoring anyone, "ignoring" anyone, Florida, Michigan, voter disenfranchisement, democracy, or "DEMOCRACY." I pointed out that you were conducting yourself in an inappropriately aggressive manner.

[PVnRT]

77. dbaker41 never actually "responds" to much

Just keeps deflecting, getting mad about whatever, etc. It's kind of fun to watch.

[yardwork]

81. I just watched "Fight Club" for the first time. This reminds me of some of the scenes.

The ones where Tyler Durden beats up himself.

I think that an internet rumor has seized control of a handful of DUers. The stress of GD-P is getting to them.

[Mooney]

84. Got it.

I guess I should go easy on the guy. After all, meth psychosis is tough to beat.

[Bullet1987]

65. This is not FL or MI...it's a damn message board

I can ignore whoever the hell I like...BECAUSE it's a Democracy. Just as much as no one can MAKE me look at a show or listen to a certain vile radio program. It's called tuning someone out.

[VinnieF]

71. "We don't "ignore" people in a DEMOCRACY."

Indeed. But we live in a republic.

Welcome to ignore.

:hi:

[yardwork]

80. Do you have a link to this list? Because I don't think it has ever existed.

I think that you have duped by an internet rumor.

[azmouse]

14. Get help. Seriously.

Your anger is getting the better of you.

[Bake]

29. At least my anger is righteous.

I'm not a coward hiding behind a circulated McCarthyite "master Ignore list."

Bake

[stillcool]

69. your anger is 'self-righteous'

fueled by false pride. You did not choose your race, your gender, or the environment in which you were raised. You are not the superior being you think you are. I suppose that is why it angers you that someone else might choose not to discuss anything with you, and ignore you. Self-righteous anger indeed.

[Mooney]

85. No, your anger is funny.

Perpetually enraged people are comedy gold.

[GalleryGod]

15. I disagree 100% and BTW....

I'll stack my personal courage against yours any time and at any place.

I'm on the far left. What did you do at 22?

[Teaser]

17. oh snap...

.

[Name removed]

31. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[VinnieF]

72. And it's a post like this that makes me damn GLAD you're now on ignore.

You should be ashamed of yourself, "college boy".

[yardwork]

82. Shame on you.

[yardwork]

83. Thank you for your service to our country.

[TML]

16. Agreed

I've never put anyone on ignore in my life. I prefer to engage them.

[BlueJac]

20. NP...I ignore whoever without putting them on a list...

If I did it would be ridiculous and not open minded!

[Taxmyth]

21. ignore = ignorance

I admit I have two people on my ignore list. 1 because I'm on hers and the other because I needed a break from reading her because I was becoming dangerously close to getting personal. She will come off of it in a day or two. Ignoring people simply because you don't agree with their opinions is a very poor practice for anyone who seeks the truth. And I agree that if someone is actually circulating a "Master Ignore List" deserves the figurative tombstone. That practice is only designed to blunt the effect message boards like DU have had on potential voters.

[BlueJazz]

22. You're right....I had 4 people on ignore and then I realized that....

...maybe they were just having a "Bad Day" and I took them off.

Also...One of my shitty ex-friends used my name/account (Bluejazz) for a few days while I went camping.
When I came back and read what he had posted, I blew a BIG fuse.
(The Fucker said some pretty nasty-ass things which probably got ME on a few ignore lists...and Yes..I'm still pissed about it..) :)

Plus..there's no way for me to explain that it wasn't me.. ARRRGgg!

[cboy4]

23. I don't know if ignore lists are for cowards, but they're

people who have trouble dealing with intense opposing views.

That's not a knock. It's reality.

I just don't understand the point of being a part of a discussion board where there are going to be lots of opposing views, and puting people on ignore because you don't like what they're saying.

Why can't you just ignore by ignoring....you know, not responding?

And how do you follow a thread when it's filled with ignored comments? Isn't it impossible to follow the conversation?

I enjoy the differing viewpoints, and what everyone has to say.

[Bake]

32. Exactly!!

I have no idea what your presidential preference is, but I salute you for saying that!!

All the best,
Bake

[davidpdx]

25. What I have a problem with is people repeating the same thing over and over again

when it's simply not true. Where is this "mass ignore list"? Why is everyone accusing only Obama supporters of doing this?

Was it not Clinton supporters who went on a "strike" at DU?

It kind of gets old. Reply to one of the 10 other threads about the same subject for godsakes.

By the way, if I saw an Obama supporter being abusive, I'd just as likely put him/her on my ignore list.

[Bake]

33. Obama supporters have been circulating "Master Ignore Lists"

For all their like-minded serfs to follow. It was posted earlier on GD: P, befor it got deleted by the mods. Every one on the list was a Hillary supporter.

Pay attention.

Bake

Edited to add: Many on the list were long-time, well-respected DUers like my good friend and well-respected OMC; if you've got a problem with OMC, you've got a problem with ME.

[davidpdx]

40. Granted I haven't been on DU long

I was a long time reader, but never posted. However, I have been posting during the last few weeks quite often. I have not seen, nor recieved this mass email list. You and others keep implying that this is something that is widespread, but it's not. If it exsists it would be a few people, not all Obama supporters as you and other's keep implying is true.

When someone posts hateful stuff, I ignore them. Like I said, I'd ignore someone who supports Obama if I thought they were being nasty. Can the Hillary supporters say the same?

[Bake]

42. You're either not paying attention, or you're not on the canonical list of O-bots

It has been well documented on DU. The post was deleted by the mods. A "master ignore list" circulated by Obama supporters. Sorry if you didn't get it, or weren't paying attention.

A "MASTER IGNORE LIST." Are you listening??? Please, dear God, think for yourself.

Bake

[davidpdx]

53. Thanks for calling me an O bot

It just proves how insulting Hillary supporters can be.

[yardwork]

88. Did you actually see this mythical thread? I did not see it. I doubt it ever existed.

The mods very rarely delete threads. They usually just lock them. Do you have a link or any evidence whatsoever that this is anything other than a rumor?

[Thickasabrick]

30. Agree - I don't want to miss anything - no matter how much I get

annoyed. I have never put anyone on ignore and hope it never gets so bad I have to.

[Warren Stupidity]

35. perhaps.

I rarely use them. However I will use the feature if I find myself getting sucked into flamefests with a particular poster. It keeps from getting drawn in. It isn't about not seeing the posts as much as it is about not responding to the posts I can't see. Over the last few days my ignore list has grown from 2 or 3 to a much larger number and will likely stay that way until the primary season is declared over here on DU. Instead of responding to flamebait idiocy in GDP I now just alert and put the poster on ignore. My DU experience has been much nicer since I made this modification to my experience here.

[crankychatter]

39. How will I know what Rovian Filth the GOP will use against Obama If I ignore Hillary Supporters?

I'm with you 100%

yeah... anyone that doesn't want to mudwrestle in shit with freepers is a coward

[Bake]

41. At least some of us are pointing it out

In the face of O-bots who protest that the Messiah can do no wrong. Don't be surprised when it hits you like a ton of bricks in October.

Bake

[Catherine Vincent]

43. I have about 20 Obama thugs on ignore.

I'm not done yet.

[Seabiscuit]

60. I have over 700 Obamanoid thugs on ignore, and I've barely scratched the surface.

[jgraz]

47. Hang on: you're implying you're somehow BRAVE for not maintaining an ignore list?

Seriously? This is a freaking internet forum, not the front lines in Fallujah.


Is not putting me on ignore the bravest thing you've done in your life?

[ToeBot]

48. The ability to ignore is the glue that holds the Democratic Party together.

Does anyone really think that such a haphazard affiliation of disparate agenda's could ever function as a party with out it? And as far as ignore lists and this board are concerned: take a good hard look, there are two factions beating themselves stupid over two candidates that, shy a set of tits and dark skin, are politically identical; neither one of them saying much of anything that I give the slightest damn about. It's fucking pathetic. So embrace the ignore list, it postpones the realization that outside of a vague political direction, we have very little in common - except for maybe an overriding contempt for the Republican Party. The Democrats, the party that's not the Republicans and occasionally opposes them.

[Lilith Velkor]

49. Lately, they're for drama queens.

:shrug:

[bridgit]

51. Lilith!?! Drama Queens?!? Why didn't you say so!!

;)

[Lilith Velkor]

52. Only the elite; the rest are just attention whores.

:think:

[bridgit]

50. ppfftt, ignorant pansy-ass cowards....

:thumbsup:

[musicblind]

54. You are absolutely right.

[Jed Dilligan]

58. I know!

I wish all the people who have left were here tonight. I would love to watch them twisting and squirming to defend the latest odious lie from their abomination of a candidate.

[PurityOfEssence]

59. There's definitely a lot of ignoring going on in the Obama camp...

People are saying that Wright will work to his benefit, that Michelle is a help and that his steadfast avoidance of controversy is merely a cover for the courage to come.

[intaglio]

61. at least "ignore lists" are open

unlike closed MB's for loyalists of the Clinton Crew

[Seabiscuit]

62. Meet me at the O.K. Corrall. When I'm done with you there, THEN I'll put you on "ignore".

[McCamy Taylor]

63. Without ignore lists you can not create mutual masturbation circles

William Burroughs predicted it in Naked Lunch when he wrote about the Divisionist Party of Interzone, a group that would take their own cells and clone them for the purpose of filling the worlds with perfect copies of themselves and crowding out anything else. He said that this was one of the more moderate parties of Interzone.

:hide:

[Guava Jelly]

64. I agree..I'd rather make annoying Asshats earn an Ignore from me.

Although quite a few on the list were already ignored when I saw the list posted here.
I kept some of the nutty funny ones off for laughs.
I have noticed that at least 4 on the earlier list have already eaten a pizza.:D
:)

[davidinalameda]

66. count me as a coward

why should I have to read the crap that some people post on here

it's much easier to put them on ignore rather to read their hatred day in and day out

and as for the free exchange of ideas-when they spout the same tired old crap that I've already seen, I don't think too highly of their ideas

[kentuck]

67. I have never put anyone on ignore but I'm sure I am on many.

I agree with you. If you want to ignore someone, just don't respond to the posts? It appears to be close-mindedness.

[Coexist]

68. no they're not

they are a tool.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

70. I never used it before last month...

But after the Rev. Wright dust-up, when people started creating not-so-cleverly disguised racist threads, I decided that I didn't care to waste my time reading that drivel. I use it judiciously, because many otherwise intelligent people here make ill-advised posts now and then (and I include myself in that group) and I don't want to Ignore their part of the discussion.

[Araxen]

73. This thread is good for finding out which people to ignore.

I've added about 14 people. Thanks!

[Araxen]

75. Up to 18 now

[crispini]

74. Who doesn't want to ignore an asshole?

I find DU much more enjoyable if I simply put everyone who's a real asshat on ignore. It's not politically based, it's manners-based. I personally think this so-called "master ignore list" that you are so worked up about is a confabulation. The Capitol Hill hidey-hole, on the other hand, is very real and I imagine you're not going to even see my response because you're hanging out over there and taking your week off from DU. Now, isn't that just as avoiding-of-dialog as your hypothetical "mass ignore list?"

[Orsino]

76. Bragging or railing about 'em is immature.

This legendary Ignore List, which may not even exist, is only ticking off the people who feel entitled to snipe at other DUers.

Anyone's free to ignore anyone, as always.

[yardwork]

79. I don't think that there is any master ignore list. Really.

I've seen no evidence that it exists outside the imagination of a few DUers.

I don't have anyone on ignore. However, if I wished to compile a list of people to ignore, it would be easy for me to do it all by myself. I'm a bit of a techno-peasant but even I can figure out how to use the "ignore" feature on DU. It's quite user-friendly even for an old geezer like myself.

[Iggo]

89. I want two lists!

An Obama supporter master ignore list and a Clinton supporter master ignore list.

(Or I could just stay the hell out of GD:STUPID until after we have a nominee, then everyone on those lists will be gone anyway. But where's the fun in that?)