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soundguy Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:48 AM
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Which Lie Is Bigger?
Hillary's embellishment of the dangers she faced or Obamas constant lying about his youth?

And I quote.

LIE: Obama told the audience in Selma, “There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma,…so got together and Barack Obama, Jr. was born.” Among the nation’s media, only the Chicago Tribune, to its credit, even bothered to inquire about this bald-faced lie. Obama’s spokesman said Obama was “speaking metaphorically” about his birth date. (Chicago Tribune, March 5, 2007). How can someone speak “metaphorically” when stating the facts about one’s conception?

Obama has lied 100-1 over Clinton yet the sheeple give him an open ended pass. Go figure.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:49 AM
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1. Someone needs to point out the huge difference to you?
OMG.....:rofl:
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george_maniakes Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:51 AM
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2. what on earth are you talking about. If your going to try and bash somebody for Gods sake...
make it clear enough. Obama has cooties. Hillary peed in her pants. Something like that, clear.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:52 AM
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3. Good lord. You need some perspective, buddy.
The lies would be comparable if Obama claimed to have been in Selma and was the object an ass whuppin' by the white cops.
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Chicken George Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:52 AM
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4. I did not hear the hateful racist anti-American diatribes
from my spiritual mentor. THAT one! The Canada/NAFTA a close second.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:54 AM
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5. The Canada/NAFTA "lie" has been debunked from Obama, and proven to be Hillary.............
Or do you not watch the news?
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Chicken George Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:55 AM
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7. Wrong
Obamamania News is highly suspect.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:59 AM
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11. So CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, and almost every major newspaper is Obama news? .........
You must live in the only state Hillary leads in; the state of denial.
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:48 AM
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25. Enjoy your stay....
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george_maniakes Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:54 AM
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6. Obamas pastor has got some anger towards the united states for what they did...
is that wrong?
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Chicken George Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:57 AM
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8. Like invent AIDS to wage GENOCIDE on African-Americans?
yeah OK.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:00 AM
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15. I've seen worse tinfoil right here on DU about 9-11. -eom
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george_maniakes Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:13 AM
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24. If wright thinks america invented AIDS i dont agree. America did wage genocide...
against blacks and natives. And notice i answered your charge about obamas pastor saying God damn america. I answered your charge that he had a right and good reason to say that.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:57 AM
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9. Let's not forget that Obama wasn't present during those diatribes...........
Obama said he was in church when his minister said some questionable things, as we all of us who have gone to church have, but he wasn't present during those 20 second clips.

This is an attempt by Hillary supporters to twist and exaggerate the truth beyond what was actually said.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:59 AM
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12. Never really watched Wright's sermons, have you?
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 09:59 AM by Chulanowa
Ten-second clips are good enough for Sean Hannity, so by god they're good enough for you!

Racist? Hate-filled? So far all that's racist is people bitching about a black guy saying something that you have no problem with, when it comes from Randi Rhodes or Noam Chomsky. Hate-filled? You're the one equating Wright and Obama - hey, all them black people are the same after all, right? Anti-American? So are we back to the Rovian lands of 2003, where criticism of America is treason?
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Araxen Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:01 AM
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16. Why do Hillbots always have to lie to cover up a lie made by Hillary?
Such a sad state of affairs that Hillary supporters have to lie so much.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:55 AM
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27. He didn't say he didn't hear them. So that's YOU lying.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:59 AM
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10. Obama always gets a pass from his supporters.
That's why his campaign is referred to as a cult. They never acknowlege wrongdoing on his part.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:56 AM
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28. I suppose you're too busy dodging sniper fire to give Hil a pass?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:59 AM
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13. Figures of speech
Hillary Clinton: "I say a lot of things -- millions of words a day -- so if I misspoke, that was just a misstatement."

Get busy fact-checking her assertion that she speaks 23 words a second. Or, behave like a normal person and understand her assertion to be a figure of speech, meaning "a lot." In the same way, you can take Obama's statement to mean that his parents relationship would have been near impossible without the Zeitgeist that fueled the civil rights movement of the post-War period. Or, you can be a small-minded asshole and assume that he was speaking literally. But please do the same for Hillary if that's your tact.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:00 AM
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14. Iran is training the al Qaeda?
according to John McCain? Oh, He misspoke?
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:01 AM
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17. Which lie is on the front page of both MSNBC and CNN?
Hint.. it's not this one.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:03 AM
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18. Hey pissant -- if you are going to quote, quote the whole thing
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 10:03 AM by thevoiceofreason
And then I will dismember you -- logically of course -- and make you cry.
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soundguy Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:05 AM
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22. Lucky for you
you can hide behind a keyboard because I know face to face you would not be so bold. I can qout 101 obama lies.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:13 AM
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23. I was just referring to your tag line.
And why don't you go ahead and put the full quote down there and we'll discuss it, or do you have to get back to your job pushing subprime mortgages?
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:03 AM
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19. I know what you mean...
All humans lie, ESPECIALLY politicians.

Would people stop being so surprised when they do?

And, yes, some lies are far worse.

Like W's lies to get into a war with the wrong country.

Are Obama's lies worse than Clinton's?

I'm not sure.

But they both lie!
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:04 AM
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20. You need to learn what elipses are for
That quote is so mangled that it is devoid of meaning.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:04 AM
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21. Because without what happened in Selma a White woman and a Black man may not have gotten together as
easily.


This can't possibly be considered a lie.



Sorry, your candidate lost. Better luck next time.
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DaveT Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:53 AM
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26. Is this the best you've got?
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 10:55 AM by DaveT
My candidate may be a liar, but her opponent is 100 times more a liar? And that factor of 100 comes from Obama telling that cornball remark about Selma and his conception?

Lame, my friend. Really, lame. I suggest taking a break from politics for a few days. Pennsylvania is still a few weeks away. Hillary can spare you from the flame wars until this weekend or so . . . chill out and ask yourself if you really think you are helping her with this thread.

You're not.

Unless you are a False Flag Obama Supporter trying to embarrass the HRC Side -- in which case, knock this shit off. It's rude.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:59 AM
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29. A false flag Obama Supporter trying to embarrass HRC...
Now there's an idea.

Wow. The OP was so absurd I hadn't even considered the possibility that it might be an Obama plant.
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