Clinton: Pledged delegates are not pledged. Like superdelegates.

[mckeown1128]

Last night, Clinton told the Philadelphia Daily News:

And also remember that pledged delegates in most states are not pledged. You know, there is no requirement that anybody vote for anybody. They’re just like superdelegates.

Does that mean the Clinton campaign is going to try to woo pledged delegates? In today’s conference call, senior adviser Harold Ickes pointed out that “there’s no party rule” binding delegates to their candidate.

“Obviously, circumstances can change,” he continued, that can cast doubt on a candidate’s viability.

But don’t take that the wrong way. Deputy Communications Director Phil Singer jumped in, “We are not seeking or asking pledged delegates for Sen. Obama to flip over, so please don’t make any mistake about that.”


http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

"Don't take that the wrong way."?!? Is there any other way to take that. They just layed out their plan. Bloody Obama up so much, that no one will want him as the nominee.

She has been attacking him by using smears, by siding with McCain against him, by calling his supporters "latte liberal activists", by encourage MI and FL not to vote for him in the GE because of their delegate mess

I am getting sick of her tactics... I want to know why I should rewards Hillary with my vote in the GE if she wins this way???

[NightWatcher]

1. her last hope is to steal delegates. she's already covered lying and cheating

turn out the lights, the party's over

[GoldieAZ49]

5. Steal? They vote how they want to, where is the theft if they change their mind?

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[GoldieAZ49]

18. LMAO poor babies, NEWSFLASH not everyone that does not support Obama is a Hilary fan

such simple little minds, it really is amusing

[PoliticalAmazon]

24. JMHO. Ignoring Hillarybots keeps one ignorant of the Rovian tricks they are attempting...

...Like it or not, to be an effective activist you need to know the opposition's strategy and agenda as well as you know your own candidate's.

I understand it is uncomfortable to read some Hillarybot posts; it is disheartening to see that some Democrats are as gullible as Bush Jr supporters. But if you really want Obama to win, you will learn Hillary's strategies as soon as they break, and what better way to do that than to read Hillarybot posts?

Just my opinion...your mileage may vary.

[GoldieAZ49]

42. Her strategy is to win, always has been, how do you think they got the WH in 92?

damn sure not by sitting by and playing the victim

[musicblind]

44. Great way to not answer some person's question. IGNORE people when you find what they say to be

unpleasant. That works out great for the religious nuts who ignore evolution, the media when it ignores dissenters on Iraq. You don't have to, and never should, agree with everything people say... but you should be required to hear what they say. Ignore is another word for ignorance, and that benefits no one. It is the coward's way out.

[PoliticalAmazon]

27. It will be viewed as a primary election coup, overturning the people's choice.

You saw what happened when Bush Jr did that in GE in 2000. Is that what you want to see in the Democratic Party?

[GoldieAZ49]

35. oh well

what I want to see doesn't matter

:shrug:

[DemVet]

37. If that's what it takes....YES!!! n/t

[GoldieAZ49]

2. Delegates can vote anyway they want, what is the problem?

You don't like the democratic party rules?

[MNDemNY]

3. Rules are rules.

Suck it up.

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[MNDemNY]

10. Hide in the sand, it's much quieter.

seeya.

[mckeown1128]

9. I love when Hillary supporters start ranting about the rules...

it shows the real hypocracy over MI and FL. So.. please tell me... when exactly do the rules apply and when do they not apply?????????

[MNDemNY]

11. Why do you think I am a Hillary supporter?

Your conclusion jumping must be a symptom of having that obama knob in your mouth.

[Firespirit]

14. You clearly don't support Obama...

Assuming you support Hillary is giving you the benefit of a doubt, in fact, considering the other options.

Do you support Nader? McCain?

[MNDemNY]

25. I support a brokered convention.

IMO that is the only way we can nominate a real Democrat, to advance the goals of our party.Obama, and Clinton can/will not.

[mckeown1128]

31. Wow... you are delusional...if you think we are going to

end up with someone other than Obama or Clinton....

[MNDemNY]

34. Bookmark it.

[Firespirit]

40. Yeah, let's piss off everyone

Why settle for half?

About two months ago it sunk in that my first, second, and third choices for nominee really weren't going to be nominated. The first two choices wouldn't enter the race at the last second and the third choice was dropping out. It pissed me off and I decided "a pox on both your houses."

I got over it.

If you're saying that people are too stupid to pick a real Democrat, whatever that is defined as for you, then nominating a person with no delegates won't solve that problem, because there is still the GE with the same ignorant masses to appease. And the Supreme Court will not appoint a Democrat.

[MNDemNY]

41. Neither of these two will beat the republofuck.

It's change horses midstream, or drown with the horse.

[GoldieAZ49]

43. no delegates? Who is that? the primaries are not over yet.

let democracy run its course.

Thank you

[olkaz]

4. Wait, didn't she explicitly say a few weeks back she DIDNT want this to happen?

The campaign did all kinds of damage control for this back then, right? Now, she's just coming out and saying it?

Wow.

[GoldieAZ49]

8. LOL, welcome to politics

every vote is fair game to go after, and she may not have to do much with all that is coming out about Obama

[mckeown1128]

12. So you think it is ok for Hillary to change the results of the

primaries in order to win the nomination... Why even bother to hold votes then?

[GoldieAZ49]

15. Hillary doesn't cast the votes of the delegates, they do

If they see her as a better candidate for the GE they can vote for her.

They don't want another one state candidate, they actually want to win.

How is that Hillary's fault?

[PoliticalAmazon]

22. If Hillary Clinton pulled a primary election coup, it would destroy the party.

Democrats are very agitated over this race. If she effected a primary coup, overturning the people's choice, it would be bad. I can see demonstrations and riots.

[GoldieAZ49]

29. We have a representative government

go ahead and demonstrate and riot, it will be great amusement for the American public and secure a McCain win

[mckeown1128]

33. So that is the new talking point...

Support Hillary when she steals the nomination or McCain will win.

[mckeown1128]

26. Again why even hold primaries... why not just let a select few decide...

you are so shrill today. Why aren't you boycotting? I thought all the freepe..I mean Hillary trol... I mean Hillary supporters... I thought all the Hillary supporters were boycotting this week.

[GoldieAZ49]

30. there is your mistake

just because someone is apposed to Obama does not automatically make them a Hillary support

She is just the only other option at this point

[olkaz]

38. "She is just the only other option at this point"

Unless you're a republican, or don't vote, you're supporting Hillary.

Parse it all you want, but it's the truth.

[olkaz]

16. "every vote is fair game"

That sort of language really puts the Hillary cry of disenfranchisement of Florida and Michigan into perspective.

"all that is coming out about Obama"?

Does it have to do with ducking snipers or speaking faster than the micro-machine man? Because that seems to be the focus right now, anyway.

[GoldieAZ49]

21. I never said H was perfect

To bad better candidates than either of these two were gone before super tuesday

O however is a sure losers for the GE, H has a chance

[PoliticalAmazon]

20. Welcome to HillaryWorld, where truth is a lie, and a lie is the truth. n/t

[Justitia]

7. LOL - pledged delegates are like those guys that paint themselves in their team colors for football

games. Going naked except for body paint to a Green Bay Packers game.

Yeah, you're really gonna convince them to switch sides.

Flop sweat and desperation.

[tyne]

17. Ya know....

I think it's time to start a letter-writing campaign to the shows that post e-mails. Her intentions are now crystal-clear and it's time that more people (especially PA) specifically understand her goal. It's not enough that we sit around and say, "yep, that's what she's doing...what a shame". That type of behavior from the repubs got us 8 years of crap and a country that is in peril.

Does anyone have a posting of e-mail addresses to the shows?

[GoldieAZ49]

23. LOL, have you listened to PA? They want H to win at any cost

look at the polls, listen to the governor

send your email and solidify her base :rofl:

[PoliticalAmazon]

28. Gov. also said white folks wouldn't vote for a black candidate, so why is he worried?

I think things in PA aren't as locked up as the Hillarybots would like us to believe.

[GoldieAZ49]

32. And you think he is wrong?

I don't know what the "Hillarybots" believe

but are you aware if she can pull off a huge win, with O getting less than 15% she will get all the delegates and be in the lead?

I don't know if she can, but I know she is trying. We shall see.

[mckeown1128]

36. Let me get this straight....

you are saying that there is a shot that Hillary might get 85+ percent of the vote in PA. wow... What is your IQ? I am just curious.

[GoldieAZ49]

39. I said that is what she is going for

in this primary, anything is possible.

I have not looked at the demographics of PA, have you?

[mckeown1128]

45. Yes I have... and it isn't going to happen....

anything can happen... but your treating it like it is likely... which it isn't... .... I mean... Hillary COULD get caught having lesbian sex with an underage illegal immigrant covered in cocaine... but it isn't going to happen.. see? (I think my example is a little more likely than Hillary getting 85 %of the vote.)

[PoliticalAmazon]

19. She doesn't deserve your vote. Write in the candidate if your choice.

She has proven herself to be on the same level of Bush Jr. If you would vote for Bush Jr in 2008, then, by all means, vote for Hillary Clinton.

If, however, you don't want the equivalent of Bush Jr in the Oval Office again, don't vote for Hillary Clinton.

Write in the name of the candidate YOU believe would be the best president. It is our responsibility and honor to vote for the best person, not the one with a (D) in front of their name.