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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:21 PM
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I didn't think he could do it, but Obama survived Wright-I think he's unstoppable now
Up 21 points in NC, down by only 10 in PA, erased a 7 point gallup HRC lead and is now ahead 47-45. He's tied with Mccain in today's Gallup at 44 for Obama, 45 for Mccain.

Wright was not the fiasco Sean Hannity was convinced it would be! Poor Karl Rove and Nazi Sean.

He's money now, dudes and dudettes. I think he'll trail Mccain until like the final weekend of the general election now but then as disaffected HRC supporters come home, he'll win by 3 or 4 points on election day.

Like I said when I was freaking out, if he survived Wright, he'd be the next president. Well, he did.

I didn't think he could do it.

Go Obama!!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:22 PM
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1. GOBAMA!
:toast:
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:22 PM
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Don't feel bad, I freaked out when Obama lost Nevada after losing NH...
That was 5 years ago, wasn't it?
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:24 PM
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5. Yep...
Seems like forever. Nevada and NH were devastating and were his low points. It's been all positive since then with the exception of minor eruptions.

Let it be said though, Obama gave one of the greatest speeches in American history to survive Wright. It WOULD have killed a conventional candidate. I was right to be concerned. Obama's not conventional though:)
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40ozDonkey Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:30 PM
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9. The best part is, he didn't have a sista souljah moment.
He came back from the guilt by association crap yet he never sold out his pastor. In politics... that's almost unique. He spoke to the adults in the room, and the adults rewarded him for it.
There was no interest in taking the easy way out.

No one can say that in November we didn't put our best foot forward.

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:40 PM
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12. Not only was Obama's three-point loss in NH not devastating
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 01:02 PM by rocknation
I think it was the first turning point of the campaign: It proved that his Iowa win hadn't been a fluke, and that Hillary was NOT going to run away with it.

:headbang:
rocknation
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:22 PM
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2. The Tropics_Dude's Kiss of Death!
Obama is finished now.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:23 PM
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3. perhaps the GOP shot their wad too early.
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:26 PM
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6. He's down to Mccain by just 1 point
and the same margin Clinton is down by. GE voters don't seem enraged either. And this is at the height of pastorgate.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:23 PM
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4. There is still a GE. That is where Wright will be fatal.
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:28 PM
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7. I think it'll be played out by then. This long election season is hard on the 2 Minute Hate
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:31 PM
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10. Not a chance. You've seen nothing , yet.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:42 PM
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13. I agree with you
This whistling past the graveyard stuff is juvenile. I'll vote for Sen Obama and have to bad feelings about that but I don't think he's going to win. I'm watching the Rasmussen daily numbers and don't like what I'm seeing.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:46 PM
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15. I will support the eventual nominee, until then I will try
to derail both of these mediocre, at best, corporate whores.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:59 PM
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20. Who was your candidate?
If you don't mind me asking. And, I too will support whoever the candidate is because either one is head and shoulders over McCain.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:27 PM
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22. Kucinich, then Edwards.
(I Know Kucinich has always been a pipe dream)
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:50 PM
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18. Oh, don't get me wrong - I think it'll be close, but...
I do a fair amount of business with folks across the political spectrum. I get the vibe from many of the pubs that they're not excited at all about McCain, and will likely just sit this one out if Obama gets the nod (granted, these are some cynical guys, and are hoping for a strong 2012 run). If Veruca somehow games the system and gets the nomination, all bets are off, and she'll bring out the GOPer's in record numbers.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:58 PM
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19. She's not getting the nod
It's just a matter of time before the only person with enough clout (Gore) steps in and tells her to give it up. I don't think Hillary or Sen Obama can beat McCain. Hillary for the reasons you stated and Sen Obama because this is still a horridly racist country which is why this Rev Wright story is going to stay in the news until November. For the record, I think the Rev is a clown.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:47 PM
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16. Obama said as much on Countdown. Yet HRC keeps claiming she's fully vetted...
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 01:44 PM by ClassWarrior
...as if to imply that she'll skate to the GE without taking a single hit from the RW. How realistic is THAT?

NGU.


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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:47 PM
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17. We have a MUCH deadlier weapon to throw at McCain
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 12:48 PM by rocknation


And did you know that he voted against MLK becoming a federal holiday?

:headbang:
rocknation
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:00 PM
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21. Gramps will be toast beside Obama in a debate
Get the visual.

Obama had to hold back because HC is a woman and he would not want to appear mean spirited to a woman and the wife of the ex President.

He has grace under fire and McCain, without his puppeteers like Lieberman behind him,will need a little black box like Bush had ~ but this time even that won't work IMO.

When Obama stands tall and composed behind that podium, that will speak volumes.

My crystal ball tells me that McCain will not make it to the GE, he will let Huckabee or Romney take it.

He had a hard time on the World Tour last month, he will be worn out by September.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:29 PM
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8. Hah! Boy are you wrong! When Obama gives his convention speech in Denver, the election will be over
Don't forget Obama will have something like 3 million volunteers and McCain will have about 100,000.

Obama will have $400 million and McCain about $160-180 million, while the war and economy will blow up in McCain's face.

Compare their plans on their Web sites and then change your pants because you will laugh so hard.

Obama will win by several points or more and at least 25-28 states.

Nader and McKinney will be non-factors.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:34 PM
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11. He couldn't have survived it without the help of the Clintons!


:evilgrin:
rocknation
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:44 PM
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14. I agree w/ the OP for the most part, but there's still fallout to be repaired for the GE
I think Obama has weathered the issue well enough for the nomination battle, but that there will remain doubts among many potential 'swing' voters b/t McCain and Obama. One needs to put themselves in their imagination in the shoes of someone, who at this point in the Iraq War, would seriously consider voting for McCain (or staying home from voting Democratic), either b/c they think McCain is "strong" on foreign policy or because they don't care and they somehow like McCain or fear Obama.

Remember how the failure of Democrats and the media to address the flipflop spin applied to Kerry for FIVE MONTHS was probably decisive in Kerry losing the election. Then, in October, just as the flipflop spin started losing steam, and being answered, Matt Bai from the NY Times came out with this piece suggesting Kerry was more reluctant than Bush to use military force to confront terrorism (which was a lot of balderdash), and again the Democrats and supposedly independent media folded. These kinds of mistakes can be the fault of candidates AND/OR of the cowardice and passivity of their supporters in the 'political class'.

The issues Obama faces are somewhat trickier in some ways, as many of these concerns are problems from being brought up and being topics of focus -- but where they ARE pushed, progressives need to answer. Look at all the articles at RealClearPolitics devoted to trashing Obama's recent excellent race speech, and you'll realize that while progressives seem to endemically focus on side issues, the RW knows where the jugular is and goes right for it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:28 PM
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23. Are you bi-polar?
:shrug:
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:57 PM
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24. lets hope so.
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